Xenon headlight fitment??

341slapas · 16-05-2006, 09:34

Hi, i've recently bought a 2001 Octavia VRS. I looked up the car on the net, to find as a upgrade. Some have got xenon headlights, so i've sourced 2 off ebay to find the wiring is different.

I need help !! Does anyone know what I have to change to make these fit my car?? Any help would be gratefull.....Slapas

chorsley · 18-05-2006, 08:48

it not just the wireing thats different you need the control box and the sensors for the suspension so it know where to piont the light

EddyH · 18-05-2006, 09:31

Haven't looked at this in much detail but it's an easy job on a golf so if the connectors are the same as the Golf then you may be able to use the retro fit loom for them.

cheezemonkhai · 18-05-2006, 10:47

Suspension sensors for the self leveling?

I thought it was just counterbalances or motors in the headlight unit.
You will need at least the starter ballast though to provide the large voltages across teh Xenon gass to ignite it.

Lummox · 18-05-2006, 17:46

You can retro fit them as the Golf boys do but you dont have the full features (and some would argue legally required features) of self leveling (requiring sensors on the suspension) and washers (requiring washer bottle, jets, pump, wiring, controller).

cheezemonkhai · 18-05-2006, 19:03

Wow now it becomes apparant why they are a £500 option !!

EddyH · 18-05-2006, 19:04

Some folks on a golf forum did alot of research into the legalities and found that the self levelling and washers was only a legal requirement for manufacturers when making vehicles but isn't an MOT requirement for retrofit kits.

However this is only what I've read so I don't know for sure. I would say though I retrofitted them to my golf and had no problems with the MOT or otherwise. Infact I'd like to do the upgrade on my Octy at some point.

Lummox · 18-05-2006, 19:14

I would imagine on MOT all the tester would do is check that the headlamp is at the correct level at the time of the test and as for washers I dont think its a fail if they dont work.

So your more than likely correct Eddy.

341slapas · 18-05-2006, 20:24

Why do I need a sensor for the suspension, how does that adjust the direction of the light?? And what control box do I need ?? Thanks for all your help guys

, I didn't think it was going to be this complicated!!!

Lummox · 18-05-2006, 20:28

Because if you chuck a shed load of stuff in the boot the Xenons wont be at the correct height and blind on coming drivers. Xenons have sensors to auto adjust the level. Sensors monitor the height of the suspension and relay a signal to a control unit that moves the beam height to keep the same base set level.

341slapas · 18-05-2006, 21:49

Thanks, now I know what i've got to buy next!! Anything else ??

16-05-2006, 09:34	#1
341slapas Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Camberley Posts: 28 Members Car: Octavia VRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Xenon headlight fitment?? Hi, i've recently bought a 2001 Octavia VRS. I looked up the car on the net, to find as a upgrade. Some have got xenon headlights, so i've sourced 2 off ebay to find the wiring is different. I need help !! Does anyone know what I have to change to make these fit my car?? Any help would be gratefull.....Slapas

18-05-2006, 08:48	#2
chorsley Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: South UK Posts: 45 Members Car: Octavia Vrs 55 reg Black Magic Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? it not just the wireing thats different you need the control box and the sensors for the suspension so it know where to piont the light

18-05-2006, 09:31	#3
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Haven't looked at this in much detail but it's an easy job on a golf so if the connectors are the same as the Golf then you may be able to use the retro fit loom for them. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

18-05-2006, 10:47	#4
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,664 Members Car: Thanks: 116 Thanked 526 Times in 487 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Suspension sensors for the self leveling? I thought it was just counterbalances or motors in the headlight unit. You will need at least the starter ballast though to provide the large voltages across teh Xenon gass to ignite it. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

18-05-2006, 17:46	#5
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? You can retro fit them as the Golf boys do but you dont have the full features (and some would argue legally required features) of self leveling (requiring sensors on the suspension) and washers (requiring washer bottle, jets, pump, wiring, controller). __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

18-05-2006, 19:03	#6
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,664 Members Car: Thanks: 116 Thanked 526 Times in 487 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Wow now it becomes apparant why they are a £500 option !! __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

18-05-2006, 19:04	#7
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Some folks on a golf forum did alot of research into the legalities and found that the self levelling and washers was only a legal requirement for manufacturers when making vehicles but isn't an MOT requirement for retrofit kits. However this is only what I've read so I don't know for sure. I would say though I retrofitted them to my golf and had no problems with the MOT or otherwise. Infact I'd like to do the upgrade on my Octy at some point. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

18-05-2006, 19:14	#8
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? I would imagine on MOT all the tester would do is check that the headlamp is at the correct level at the time of the test and as for washers I dont think its a fail if they dont work. So your more than likely correct Eddy. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

18-05-2006, 20:24	#9
341slapas Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Camberley Posts: 28 Members Car: Octavia VRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Why do I need a sensor for the suspension, how does that adjust the direction of the light?? And what control box do I need ?? Thanks for all your help guys , I didn't think it was going to be this complicated!!!

18-05-2006, 20:28	#10
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Because if you chuck a shed load of stuff in the boot the Xenons wont be at the correct height and blind on coming drivers. Xenons have sensors to auto adjust the level. Sensors monitor the height of the suspension and relay a signal to a control unit that moves the beam height to keep the same base set level. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

18-05-2006, 21:49	#11
341slapas Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Camberley Posts: 28 Members Car: Octavia VRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Xenon headlight fitment?? Thanks, now I know what i've got to buy next!! Anything else ??

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