onestar

I did a quick scan for answers on the 1.6FSI engine. Unfortunately it seems 50-50. I currently drive a 1.8 (petrol) vvti avensis. I find it good enough, never noticed lack of power.

I am interested in getting a octavia 1.6FSI Elegance , but not sure if the engine is good enough, or will I seriously notice a lack of power. I don't want a 1.8T (cost, tax, insurance) and no fan of diesels either.

Anyone give me an idea. Unfortunately none of the skoda dealers seem to have any to test drive, and I'm wondering whether to just give up and go for some other car?

Thanks

Ray_Green

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And welcome to the forum

mdk1

Welcome to briskoda
as has been mentioned What car do rate the 1.6fsi.

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i rate the 2.0 fsi, im sure the 1.6 isnt much different.

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sebulbus

I have the 1.6 FSI, and it's good, if you don't carry a lot of weight often.
For commuting 1-2 persons it's ideal, pulls ok, good economy, decent sound, but could have done with a 6th gear like the Golf FSI has.

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onestar

Interesting comment about 1-2 people. What happens if there is a full car? does it actually struggle?

motr

Had a full load when I went to France last year (including roof box) and mine was fine.

There again, I don't do 100mph wherever I go.

Best thing is to take a testdrive if you can.

onestar

been trying, but as was mentioned (when I was scanning) 1.6FSI seems a strange rarity to find which is puzzling. The dealers just say they have diesels and maybe a 1.8t which no doubt would show no issue in power!

The Skoda Octavia just seems a remarkably good deal overall compared to the rest, which is why I am still hanging in.

motr

Sorry, missed that bit. To be honest, the 1.6 FSI is the biggest engine i've owned, so have no idea how it would compare to a 1.8.

I had a 1.4 16v Fabia before and there was an impressive leap between that and the 1.6 I have.

I would have thought that there would be a slight difference between the two cars you have and are looking at, although I guess it depends how old the Avensis is.

Have to say, I love my Ocatvia (also in Elegance spec with a few extras) and don't have a bad word to say about it really.

onestar

I never thought about power before. But I only realised now, I've been upping the power each time! I just want to know that not going to find I put the foot down on the motorway and the car does nothing because I am carrying passengers and the car is heavy by design (and no I only mean between 60mph-90mph - can't afford a loss of driving licence)

motr

Found it fine on motorway although you may to drop down a gear or so when town driving, due to, as you say, the bulk of the car, but on motorways at speeds you say, I would say you shouldn't have too much of a problem.

bosnjo

Here is what I owned, chronologicaly:
- Golf1 1.1
- Golf1 1.3
- Golf1 1.3
- Golf2 1.6 (75hp)
- Golf3 1.6 (75hp)
- Golf4 1.4 (75hp)
- Golf4 1.6 25y(105hp)
- Avensis 1.8 (129hp)
- Octy2 2.0TDi (140hp)

So, this Octy is my first diesel. I'd still love to drive petrol, but Octy is bigger and heavier car so I've test drove one 1.6 petrol and found out that it just doesn't have enough power because of it's weight. I've found that to take over the other car was just too dangerous as it doesn't respond enough. I didn't go for higher petrol Octy because of rising fuel prices. I've test drove 1.9 and 2.0 diesels and found out that even 1.9 is far better in pulling than 1.6 petrol. I had good deal offered by dealer for one 2.0 TDi that was on stock, so I went for that one. I love it, but I still prefer petrol because of silent engine.
Now, as company car I have Megane 1.5 dci that has common rail engine. Common rail engine is as silent as petrol. So, my next car will be Octy diesel with common rail engine (when it comes to market). I hope, in mid 2010, there will be Octy 2.0TDi with common rail engine (non VRS). Just then I'll be fully satisfied with diesel Octy. The fuel economy is very important for the future of all of us. Ask your dealer for test drive petrol and diesel Octy, so you'll be able to make your own decision about what you like the most, and test drive them on A roads and motorway.

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onestar

Was that a 1.6FSI or the 1.6MPI you got to test drive? From the comments so far it does seem a bit 50/50. Interesting you owned a 1.8 Avensis too (I do too, a 52 model), hence my "concern" since I might notice it more.

bosnjo

Well, can´t tell you what 1.6 it was, I don't know. It was in late 2006 and it was far weaker then Avensis 1.8 I still owned at that time.
And Avensis... Well, sold it 1,5 year old. Spent more time at dealer then on the road. Never again Toyota, back to my good old VAG cars.

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motr

The 1.6 FSI is 115 bhp.

workman

i've a 1.6 fsi in my octy classic and it's grand in any situation.

gives me just under 42mpg and cruises fine at 50mph & 70mph on the roads i use.

some have said about it's lack of torque, sure 115lb/ft is a lot less than the 1.9tdi but, if you use the gearbox and rev range of the engine (which is what you should be doing anyway in a petrol) then you'll won't find it lacking.

not meaning to state the obvious, but if one desires the torque of the 2.0tdi, then buy a 2.0tdi, by this i mean i think it's a nonsense to compare the 1.6 to engines that have more torque and/or power. part of the reason why the diesels cost more.

as others have said: drive it to try it.

Ray_Green

Are you saying you have to gun the engine?

classic

One things for sure, you won't have to worry about the flywheel or turbo failing.
I drive a 1.9 tdi and while performance and economy is great, I had a 1.6fsi loan car recently, and liked it. was quick enough and did about 40 mpg. Next time think I'll get a higher spec 1.6fsi rather than the diesel.
If you actually drive at normal speeds the 1.6FSI seems more than adequate.

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Taxi 219

But the old style Japanese built Avensis were such a good car.These new ones get a real slagging off now.
I think any Octy in any engine size is good but the Classic spec is a little basic inside.

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stupep

It does depend on where you've come from, and what you expect.

Compared with my previous car (an old 1.6 Nissan Primera), my 1.6FSI is certainly about half a gear more powerful. I'm surprised how well it pulls, and have never been left without power when I needed it, usually without changing down. It's certainly as good as I need and I haven't regretted my choice.

This post would probably have been different if I'd come from a more powerful car - I could have ended up with a diesel, and been equally happy.

So you pays yer money, you makes yer choice!

Penguin

Same comments as most - depends on what you need or what sort of performance you require. I'm not keen on diesels as I find them not very refined (vibration & noise) but you can't argue with the nice punchy low down torque & good fuel economy (although in UK the derv. cost & extra engine cost is now largely eliminating this unless one does high mileage)
I recently bought a 1.8tsi as its £100 cheaper than the 1.9pd (105ps) develops similar torque(over a much wider rev range), is very smooth & quiet and is giving average about 38/9 mpg (without driving like a saint). It's also a seriously quick car for group 11 ins. - if you need it occasionally e.g overtaking. (60/8.1 sec & 139 mph - not very far short of the VRS !)

workman

for normal everyday driving i don't need to go past 3k rpm; i only have to extend past this if i want to carry out a quick overtaking manoeuvre, for example.

i honestly believe if someone finds an octy fitted with the 1.6fsi to be inadequate they are either: 1. doing an unfair comparison with a more powerful engine (eg 2.0tdi), or 2. can't drive a n.a. petrol properly.

onestar

Hi, thanks all for your comments. I contacted Skoda to try and find a car, and they contacts Parks in Hamilton. I got a test drive on a used 1.6FSI today. Unfortunately I did not find it comfortable to drive. Like some previous comments, I found it sluggish to pull off needing a healthy use of the accelerator. On the motorway it faired better, but sounded strained in comparison to my current car.

I accept that I was comparing to my 1.8 avensis and my current driving style. However I don't think the 1.6FSI is quite right for the Octavia. Now the question is 1.8T or a different but smaller car. I think I will arrange a 1.8 test drive.

Incidentally I looked at the L&K version with leather seats, and I found them very uncomfortable in comparison!

bosnjo

You'll love 1.8T after your Avensis.

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