1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles!

Browny_37 · 05-09-2008, 22:39

Hey all, since i bought the car 2 months ago.
I've been experiencing a resistance to starting up more aless straight away.
The glow plug symbols come on and go out more aless after 2 seconds.

How easy it starts can vary widely even on the same day, sometimes may start after a couple of cranks.
But sometimes it whirs on for 3-4 seconds before it starts, more aless the same situation even while warm.
The car has recently had a service consisting of Fuel/Oil/Air Filters and a change of oil.
Anyone have any ideas?

I've read the fuel filter housings have a water drain on them, but i cant seem to find one on mine?

Or i've seen people suggest it maybe the starter, but im a little confused.

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

skippy41 · 06-09-2008, 03:50

There is just a possibility that the fuel filter has not been tightened enough, or the seal may have a slight nick in it. and a slight air leek is getting in so when you turn it over it has to purge the small amount of air first
I had a similar problem with my old escort and it was a slight nick in the seal that let air into the filter so it would not start strait away

Browny_37 · 06-09-2008, 12:49

It was doing it before i did the service, doubt i've nicked the seal. Which seal are you talking about?
The multiple o ring one or the one around the top of the seal?

Theres no leaks from the unit on that side.

skippy41 · 06-09-2008, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Browny_37

It was doing it before i did the service, doubt i've nicked the seal. Which seal are you talking about?
The multiple o ring one or the one around the top of the seal?

Theres no leaks from the unit on that side.

Any of the seals could be at fault, is the car new or secondhand, and how many miles, if its secondhand it could be the glow plugs they have been known to go or even the glow plug relay

hoskurner · 06-09-2008, 16:45

My guess is the starter motor. Mine was fine from cold, but a ig to start when warm, at first it took that long when warm i used to miss it all the time! embarrasing! Starter repleced and fine. The tech at the garages dad had the same problem on his 1.9tdi and a new starter cured that too.

Browny_37 · 06-09-2008, 16:59

Second hand 54plate with 120k.

Mine can vary, sometimes starts when cold or hot.
The glow plug lights go out near enough straight away. Even when its one of the mornings where its getting cooler.

Taxi 219 · 06-09-2008, 18:11

It won,t be glow plugs.
As with the 2.0TDi its the starter motors at fault.Replace and iam sure you will find ok after

SoulRider · 06-09-2008, 19:57

If you have vag-com do a scan if you get any faults relating to the glow plugs check the glow plug relay there has been problems with these in the past

Taxi 219 · 06-09-2008, 20:39

Iam yet to find a MK1 or Mk2 thats had a relay problem

Browny_37 · 07-09-2008, 03:21

Dont have access to vag-com, but do have access to a car with shrieking brakes and burning the inside edges of the tyres off now

05-09-2008, 22:39	#1
Browny_37 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rotherham Posts: 212 Members Car: Mk2 Octavia 1.9TDI Classic Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! Hey all, since i bought the car 2 months ago. I've been experiencing a resistance to starting up more aless straight away. The glow plug symbols come on and go out more aless after 2 seconds. How easy it starts can vary widely even on the same day, sometimes may start after a couple of cranks. But sometimes it whirs on for 3-4 seconds before it starts, more aless the same situation even while warm. The car has recently had a service consisting of Fuel/Oil/Air Filters and a change of oil. Anyone have any ideas? I've read the fuel filter housings have a water drain on them, but i cant seem to find one on mine? Or i've seen people suggest it maybe the starter, but im a little confused. Any input would be greatly appreciated! __________________ Skoda Octavia Mk2 1.9TDI .....Classic!

06-09-2008, 03:50	#2
skippy41 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 338 Members Car: 55 plate estaite 1.9tdi 105 BHP Thanks: 36 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! There is just a possibility that the fuel filter has not been tightened enough, or the seal may have a slight nick in it. and a slight air leek is getting in so when you turn it over it has to purge the small amount of air first I had a similar problem with my old escort and it was a slight nick in the seal that let air into the filter so it would not start strait away __________________ Skoda octavia 11 1.9 tdi 105bhp classic estate, 55 plate manual Black used as a taxi Scottish Borders

06-09-2008, 12:49	#3
Browny_37 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rotherham Posts: 212 Members Car: Mk2 Octavia 1.9TDI Classic Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! It was doing it before i did the service, doubt i've nicked the seal. Which seal are you talking about? The multiple o ring one or the one around the top of the seal? Theres no leaks from the unit on that side. __________________ Skoda Octavia Mk2 1.9TDI .....Classic!

06-09-2008, 16:45	#5
hoskurner Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 9 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! My guess is the starter motor. Mine was fine from cold, but a ig to start when warm, at first it took that long when warm i used to miss it all the time! embarrasing! Starter repleced and fine. The tech at the garages dad had the same problem on his 1.9tdi and a new starter cured that too.

06-09-2008, 16:59	#6
Browny_37 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rotherham Posts: 212 Members Car: Mk2 Octavia 1.9TDI Classic Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! Second hand 54plate with 120k. Mine can vary, sometimes starts when cold or hot. The glow plug lights go out near enough straight away. Even when its one of the mornings where its getting cooler. __________________ Skoda Octavia Mk2 1.9TDI .....Classic! Last edited by Browny_37; 06-09-2008 at 17:14.

06-09-2008, 18:11	#7
Taxi 219 Not anymore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 2,245 Members Car: Octavia TDi 2006 Thanks: 107 Thanked 111 Times in 108 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! It won,t be glow plugs. As with the 2.0TDi its the starter motors at fault.Replace and iam sure you will find ok after __________________ Car now: 56 Octavia MK2 1.9TDi Ambiente-Debadged-Metallic Flamenco Red DMF Reqiured soon Previous: 06 Octavia Mk1 1.9TDi Classic with + pack-Diamond Silver Sadly missed: 97 Nissan Primera 2.0TDi SLX- Red Paul I only live for GTA IV

06-09-2008, 19:57	#8
SoulRider Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lancashire Posts: 57 Members Car: 2005 Octavia 1.9 TDI Elegance Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! If you have vag-com do a scan if you get any faults relating to the glow plugs check the glow plug relay there has been problems with these in the past

06-09-2008, 20:39	#9
Taxi 219 Not anymore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 2,245 Members Car: Octavia TDi 2006 Thanks: 107 Thanked 111 Times in 108 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! Iam yet to find a MK1 or Mk2 thats had a relay problem __________________ Car now: 56 Octavia MK2 1.9TDi Ambiente-Debadged-Metallic Flamenco Red DMF Reqiured soon Previous: 06 Octavia Mk1 1.9TDi Classic with + pack-Diamond Silver Sadly missed: 97 Nissan Primera 2.0TDi SLX- Red Paul I only live for GTA IV

07-09-2008, 03:21	#10
Browny_37 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rotherham Posts: 212 Members Car: Mk2 Octavia 1.9TDI Classic Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1.9 TDI PD105 Starting Troubles! Dont have access to vag-com, but do have access to a car with shrieking brakes and burning the inside edges of the tyres off now __________________ Skoda Octavia Mk2 1.9TDI .....Classic!

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