20mm spacers on vRS.

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 19:50

Well, the standard wheels sit WAY inside the arches, and basically look a bit pants, so I thought I'd invest in some 20mm spacers for the rear, to bring them inline with the front wheels.

Before:

After:

Gives quite a nice stance from the rear:

and for the third time today - pics of the car!

You need hubcentric spacers (mine are made by FK), and longer wheel bolts. Although the wheel bolt covers still fit, you won't be able to reuse the standard lock nuts, so I'll be purchasing some longer McGuard ones in the very near future.

Not a bad mod for under £50, and makes the car feel much more settled on high speed bends to boot!

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 19:57

Where did you get your spacers and longer bolts from?

I think yours would now look good with some Eibach pro springs to lower it by 20mm.

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonno VRs

Where did you get your spacers and longer bolts from?

I think yours would now look good with some Eibach pro springs to lower it by 20mm.

Mine were second hand - thanks to Simon! (Baker 21) Cheers matey!!

It will be lowered on Eibachs and Koni FSDs in the not so distant future

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 20:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Mine were second hand - thanks to Simon! (Baker 21) Cheers matey!!

It will be lowered on Eibachs and Koni FSDs in the not so distant future

Baker 21 - that name rings a bell from my ukmkivs days!

Good stuff re the koni/eibachs. You've clearly got an understanding girlfriend/wife/partner etc.

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 20:05

Looking good Tom.

You can buy spacers with longer bolts like Tom or you can buy bolt on spacers which use your standard bolts.

Harry_vRS · 22-03-2008, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonno VRs

You've clearly got an understanding girlfriend/wife/partner etc.

If you can call his wrist understanding then yes he has

Looks really though Tom - it's something I keep meaning to do.

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 20:06

Palmela

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 20:09

Nowt wrong with the hand shandy!

Besides, theres 2 types of people in this world, w@nkers and liars!

At the risk of going hugely off topic I'll try and dig out some links for spacers.

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 20:15

This is a kit similar to mine, with bolt through spacers and longer bolts

Vw 20mm hubcentric wheel spacer kit 4x100 Golf,Polo,Gti on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 24-Mar-08 04:08:41 GMT)

and this is an "adapter" type kit which bolts to the hub and wheels bolt to the adapter

H+R VW to Porsche wheel adaptors on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 25-Mar-08 22:02:58 GMT)

Not quite the same thing, but you get the idea.

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

This is a kit similar to mine, with bolt through spacers and longer bolts

Vw 20mm hubcentric wheel spacer kit 4x100 Golf,Polo,Gti on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 24-Mar-08 04:08:41 GMT)

and this is an "adapter" type kit which bolts to the hub and wheels bolt to the adapter

H+R VW to Porsche wheel adaptors on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 25-Mar-08 22:02:58 GMT)

Not quite the same thing, but you get the idea.

Thanks Tom - nice work

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 20:30

20MM Hubcentric Spacer Kit - Ford Seat & VW (5x112) 607 on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 06-Apr-08 13:10:39 BST)

Top seller as well.

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 20:32

Nice find Ross.

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 20:40

Thats the seller I used for mine, really nice bloke and very helpfull.

bahnstormer vrs · 22-03-2008, 21:07

Nice work there Tom; you're absolutely right about the need for spacers with the vRS and 'standard' wheels. That's why I went and got some as well a few weeks back.

I went for a slightly less wide approach with only 15mm ones but got them fitted front and rear. Mine are Eibach Hubcentric Pro-Spacers with longer bolts and McGard locking bolts bought from Demon Tweeks. (Did all cost me a bit more that £50 though!!).

Here are a couple of pics;-

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 21:09

DOes anyone have any close up pics of the wheel/hub with the spacers on?

Is it obvious that there are spacers fitted? Looking at those one on the link Lummox posted I'd need to paint them to match my hubs first I think.

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 21:13

Best I can come up with is...

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Best I can come up with is...

Nice one Tom - that's spot on thanks

Dor · 22-03-2008, 21:19

Did this my old Ibiza R. Best value for money mod there is. Glad to here it works on the occy aswell

Any issues with lowering cars with spacer on i.e. rubbing on archliners?

Cheers

Chris

Makefish · 22-03-2008, 21:20

I tried with a set of non hub centric ones with disasterous results as wheel wobble at 60-70mph was awful, makes me wonder how/why these are sold or is there a way to fit them to avoid this?

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 21:21

Just for ref, i'll stop clogging up the thread now

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 21:22

Having had a quick look at my wheels in the garage I'd be tempted to go 20mm at the rear and 15mm at the front.

Jonno VRs · 22-03-2008, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

I tried with a set of non hub centric ones with disasterous results as wheel wobble at 60-70mph was awful, makes me wonder how/why these are sold or is there a way to fit them to avoid this?

Forgive my ignorance but what actually does hub-centric mean?

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

I tried with a set of non hub centric ones with disasterous results as wheel wobble at 60-70mph was awful, makes me wonder how/why these are sold or is there a way to fit them to avoid this?

Non hubcentric spacers are a bad idea imho. How can you guarantee its centred for starters? Then how do you ensure the wheel is centred on it? You can't, its as simple as that!

And do you have the correct bolts??

No prolems whatsoever with my hubcentrics, even at 100+

If you want spacers, its really worth shelling out on proper ones!

Tom_vRS · 22-03-2008, 21:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonno VRs

Having had a quick look at my wheels in the garage I'd be tempted to go 20mm at the rear and 15mm at the front.

I used a long spirit level on the top of each wheel arch down to the floor, and then used a tape to measure from the edge of the spirit level, to the badge in the middle of the wheel. The front was around 20mm, and the back around 40mm, hence me opting to go for 20mms on the back.

Its also worth pointing out that spacers will increase the forces acting on the bearings, so could theoretically wear out sooner.

Lummox · 22-03-2008, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonno VRs

Forgive my ignorance but what actually does hub-centric mean?

When you mount your wheel on the hub it sits on the centre of the hub snugly thus insuring the wheel is mounted centrally. Non hub centric spacers sit on this hub leaving nothing for the wheel to sit on. Hub Centric spacers replicate this hub so the wheel sits a it would normally.

22-03-2008, 19:50	#1
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	20mm spacers on vRS. Well, the standard wheels sit WAY inside the arches, and basically look a bit pants, so I thought I'd invest in some 20mm spacers for the rear, to bring them inline with the front wheels. Before: After: Gives quite a nice stance from the rear: and for the third time today - pics of the car! You need hubcentric spacers (mine are made by FK), and longer wheel bolts. Although the wheel bolt covers still fit, you won't be able to reuse the standard lock nuts, so I'll be purchasing some longer McGuard ones in the very near future. Not a bad mod for under £50, and makes the car feel much more settled on high speed bends to boot! __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

22-03-2008, 19:57	#2
Jonno VRs Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243 Members Car: Octy II VRs 200 Thanks: 10 Thanked 48 Times in 47 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Where did you get your spacers and longer bolts from? I think yours would now look good with some Eibach pro springs to lower it by 20mm. __________________ 06 Skoda Octavia VRs 200 bhp (Black) Coming soon: 58 Skoda Octavia VRs CR TDi (Candy White) Previous Cars: 04 Audi TT 3.2 V6 250 bhp (Black) 02 VW Golf V5 170 bhp (Black)

22-03-2008, 20:05	#5
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Looking good Tom. You can buy spacers with longer bolts like Tom or you can buy bolt on spacers which use your standard bolts. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

22-03-2008, 20:06	#7
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Palmela __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

22-03-2008, 20:09	#8
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Nowt wrong with the hand shandy! Besides, theres 2 types of people in this world, w@nkers and liars! At the risk of going hugely off topic I'll try and dig out some links for spacers. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

22-03-2008, 20:15	#9
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. This is a kit similar to mine, with bolt through spacers and longer bolts Vw 20mm hubcentric wheel spacer kit 4x100 Golf,Polo,Gti on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 24-Mar-08 04:08:41 GMT) and this is an "adapter" type kit which bolts to the hub and wheels bolt to the adapter H+R VW to Porsche wheel adaptors on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 25-Mar-08 22:02:58 GMT) Not quite the same thing, but you get the idea. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

22-03-2008, 20:30	#11
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. 20MM Hubcentric Spacer Kit - Ford Seat & VW (5x112) 607 on eBay, also, Wheel Spacers, Car Wheels, Tyres Trims, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 06-Apr-08 13:10:39 BST) Top seller as well. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

22-03-2008, 20:32	#12
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Nice find Ross. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

22-03-2008, 20:40	#13
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Thats the seller I used for mine, really nice bloke and very helpfull. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

22-03-2008, 21:07	#14
bahnstormer vrs Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Herts Posts: 2,684 Members Car: Octavia vRS TDI - Koni FSDs & RallyFlapz Thanks: 46 Thanked 155 Times in 140 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Nice work there Tom; you're absolutely right about the need for spacers with the vRS and 'standard' wheels. That's why I went and got some as well a few weeks back. I went for a slightly less wide approach with only 15mm ones but got them fitted front and rear. Mine are Eibach Hubcentric Pro-Spacers with longer bolts and McGard locking bolts bought from Demon Tweeks. (Did all cost me a bit more that £50 though!!). Here are a couple of pics;- __________________ Mine - '07 Octavia vRS TDI, Superchips BlueFin (210bhp/293lbft) 'Winter wheels' 7.5J x 17" Audi S-line, Ultrac Sessantas 225/45 17, xenons, rear parking sensor, heated seats (driver's Recaro Style full leather), climate/jumbo etc., Koni FSDs, Neuspeed Rear ARB & Short-Shifter, K&N induction kit, RallyFlapZ - Colin McRae memorial decals. Wife's - '08 Roomster Scout 1.6 Tiptronic, Cruise, parking sensors Son's - '02 Fabia 1.4mpi, vRS 16" alloys, Michelin Pilot Exalto 2 195/45 16, vRS front bumper, Koni Sport shocks.

22-03-2008, 21:09	#15
Jonno VRs Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243 Members Car: Octy II VRs 200 Thanks: 10 Thanked 48 Times in 47 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. DOes anyone have any close up pics of the wheel/hub with the spacers on? Is it obvious that there are spacers fitted? Looking at those one on the link Lummox posted I'd need to paint them to match my hubs first I think. __________________ 06 Skoda Octavia VRs 200 bhp (Black) Coming soon: 58 Skoda Octavia VRs CR TDi (Candy White) Previous Cars: 04 Audi TT 3.2 V6 250 bhp (Black) 02 VW Golf V5 170 bhp (Black)

22-03-2008, 21:13	#16
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Best I can come up with is... __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

22-03-2008, 21:19	#18
Dor Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Warminster Posts: 271 Members Car: SEAT Ibiza Cupra R Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Did this my old Ibiza R. Best value for money mod there is. Glad to here it works on the occy aswell Any issues with lowering cars with spacer on i.e. rubbing on archliners? Cheers Chris

22-03-2008, 21:20	#19
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 8,277 Members Car: Golf PD105 Thanks: 187 Thanked 248 Times in 184 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. I tried with a set of non hub centric ones with disasterous results as wheel wobble at 60-70mph was awful, makes me wonder how/why these are sold or is there a way to fit them to avoid this? __________________ Superchips Bluefin only £390 @ JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinxmas2008.htm

22-03-2008, 21:21	#20
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,497 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 760 Times in 638 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Just for ref, i'll stop clogging up the thread now __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

22-03-2008, 21:22	#21
Jonno VRs Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 1,243 Members Car: Octy II VRs 200 Thanks: 10 Thanked 48 Times in 47 Posts	Re: 20mm spacers on vRS. Having had a quick look at my wheels in the garage I'd be tempted to go 20mm at the rear and 15mm at the front. __________________ 06 Skoda Octavia VRs 200 bhp (Black) Coming soon: 58 Skoda Octavia VRs CR TDi (Candy White) Previous Cars: 04 Audi TT 3.2 V6 250 bhp (Black) 02 VW Golf V5 170 bhp (Black)