Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car

fatbadger · 14-04-2008, 11:10

I picked up my new vRS TDI on Friday, absolutely love it.

I do however have one annoyance. I ordered dealer fitted parking sensors to get a car quickly with all the options I wanted. I thought this would mean I'd have the OEM Skoda sensors connected up to the stream unit. This has not happened. I have some other random ones with the bleeper unit on show fitted to the side shelf in the boot.

The noise is so loud it's almost deafening and they seem to have a mind of their own. They bleep like mad when there is nothing behind me. Now admittedly it has been raining most of the weekend, but I did at one point wipe the rain off and they still bleeped randomly when there was a bush over 2 meters away.
I also got some more random bleeping when reversing up a hill out of a drive down the pavement onto the road, and there was absolutely nothing behind me. I'm confused, a bit annoyed and needing some helpful advice on what to do about this?

What should I do?

Steve

ap0gee · 14-04-2008, 11:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatbadger

What should I do?

Steve

Take it back to the dealer and politely ask them to put it right for you? You've just splashed a wd of cash in their direction, so it's the least they could do for you...

(They are adjustable AFAIK...

)

fatbadger · 14-04-2008, 11:28

Thanks!!!

Defo gotta take it back. It's very embarrassing as well when taking people out for a spin the brand new car.

Any ideas of what my position is on them installing the non standard OEM sensors that dont connect to the stream?

Steve

apd007 · 14-04-2008, 11:44

AFAIK the only sensors that connect up to the Stream head unit are the factory fit ones. Sorry.

I've got them on my car, and tbh, it's cool for passengers but I still look in the mirrors instead of looking at my stereo, I use the parking sensors as an additional aid.

ap0gee · 14-04-2008, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatbadger

Thanks!!!

Defo gotta take it back. It's very embarrassing as well when taking people out for a spin the brand new car.

Any ideas of what my position is on them installing the non standard OEM sensors that dont connect to the stream?

Steve

I presume it wouldn't be covered by the warranty, although your rights under the Sale of Goods Act should still apply. I would argue that the system / installation was not of merchandable quality if it gives you so many false alarms and is annoyingly loud.

Tom_vRS · 14-04-2008, 11:46

Hmmm, is this car BRAND NEW? Did you pay the list price for factory fit parking sensors??

How long was it between ordering the car and receiving it?

I suspect what may of happened is the a car was in stock/on order with all the options you wanted except parking sensors, so the dealer took delivery of it and retrofitted sensors.

A bit sneaky, and would only have been acceptable had they fitted the OEM sensors to your car. Some cheapo aftermarket kit is a mickey take, and I'd not have accepted delivery of the car at all.

Approach the dealer politely about it, and let us know what they say.

EDIT - I should have read your post properly.

The dealer fit sensors should be the genuine Skoda ones, these don't sound like those tbh.

apd007 · 14-04-2008, 11:47

Dealer fit and factory fit are two different things though.

Parsko · 14-04-2008, 11:49

I had my sensors fitted by the dealer when I purchsed the Rooscout. The instructions were badged as Seat and the install was very neat with no visable wires or speakers. These also dont intigrate with the Dance Head unit but i only found out the factory fit ones did some time after the purchase. My advice would be this is just a bit of fluff realy as we should be watching where we are reversing and not at our radio dispay.It is possible that the factory fit kit is not able to be retro fitted.
Did you request or make clear to the dealer you wanted it to intigrate with the display at the time of purchase?
I would return o the dealer ask them to tidy up the install (speaker) and check that one of the sensors is not faulty.

fatbadger · 14-04-2008, 12:06

Thanks for all the very quick replies guys.

Yes the car is BRAND NEW and took just over 1 week for delivery. The car was picked from stock with all the options I wanted apart from the sensors.

I knew the dealer was fitting the sensors and paid full price so expected OEM sensors.
I did not notice the parking sensors were not OEM until friday evening when a mechanic friend of mine said what the hell is that, and pointed to the bleeper unit on your side shelf. Whoops!!! Does not look good at all.
Saturday was when I noticed the random bleeping.

I shall ask them politely because they have been nothing but nice with me, but I don't see why I should be paying for an install that is not in my opinion 100%

I need to pop in there tomorrow so will be chatting to them then.

I shall let you know!!

Thanks again

Steve

**VRStu** · 14-04-2008, 16:48

Did you agree to them being fitted and if so do you feel you were mislead?

If you feel strongly about it then I would reject the car.

I would imagine they wanted the car registered before the end of the quarter.

You will have to act quickly - Certainly in the first 14 days. Also if you have a finance agreement consider using them.

jamesmckelvie · 14-04-2008, 18:11

effectively it is a new car now, because the dealer has tinkered with it.

scoobynut · 14-04-2008, 20:04

that's shocking- I'd be mortified. I thought the dealer fit was putting the OEM parts in....you surely wouldn't expect to pay list option price for such a poor bit of kit?

Sounds like an advert I saw for JML parking sensors. The horror.

JML Parking Sensor

Sorry to hear about your problem :-( Good luck. I'm all for politeness, but don't forget you have to live with this.

fordfan · 14-04-2008, 20:26

If you specified dealer fit, this is what I would expect them to fit:

Skoda Accessories

Which even though it has a Skoda part number, it is the same kit that a lot of manufacturers specify as an accessory.

With regard to warranty, the rule used to be that any accessory fitted at PDi carried the same warranty as the car and any fitted at a later date had the standard parts warranty.

It seems to me that the dealer fitted parking sensors as per your instructions maybe they should have told you that they would not be connected to the radio or it did not occur to them that you would assume that they would or you didn't ask.

It sounds to me that they haven't been set up correctly or the control box may be faulty, polish in the sensors is also a favourite for an inaccurate signal.

**VRStu** · 14-04-2008, 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by fordfan

With regard to warranty, the rule used to be that any accessory fitted at PDi carried the same warranty as the car and any fitted at a later date had the standard parts warranty.

I think that is still the case.

G.K. · 14-04-2008, 21:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAArsko

I had my sensors fitted by the dealer when I purchsed the Rooscout. The instructions were badged as Seat and the install was very neat with no visable wires or speakers. These also dont intigrate with the Dance Head unit but i only found out the factory fit ones did some time after the purchase. My advice would be this is just a bit of fluff realy as we should be watching where we are reversing and not at our radio dispay.It is possible that the factory fit kit is not able to be retro fitted.
Did you request or make clear to the dealer you wanted it to intigrate with the display at the time of purchase?
I would return o the dealer ask them to tidy up the install (speaker) and check that one of the sensors is not faulty.

I have found out that the factory fitted sensors don't integrate with the Columbus head unit either. Bit of a disappointment after getting used to the Audience unit muting the music and supplying you with the diagram of the car and which sensor is activated. A shame considering the cost involved.

scoobynut · 14-04-2008, 21:34

that's interesting. The after market ones (link above) is £125. The factory option is £260.

Do you have to add labour costs onto the £125??

**VRStu** · 14-04-2008, 21:36

Yes. The price on the website is exclusive of labour.

scoobynut · 14-04-2008, 21:39

wow that was quick Stu

. I just re read the Skoda website and was going to correct my post.

In that case if the cost was close to £260 you'd expect it to be the same product (well I would).

Funny, the dealer told me that maxidot was a waste of time and they could add the rear sensors. Now I know that was so they could shift a stock car.

So glad I ordered one to be built :-)

fatbadger · 15-04-2008, 07:12

Thanks for all the replies guys. I really appreciate it.

The picture from the Skoda Accessories page shows the exact same bleeper unit that is sitting on my side shelf in the boot.

Today I shall chat with them and I'm hoping this can be rectified ASAP. Fingers crossed.

I shall post what happens later on.

Thanks again.

Steve

EddyH · 15-04-2008, 08:30

With the retrofit kit I would expect the bleeper to be installed inside the b-pillar, there shouldn't be anything visible.

14-04-2008, 11:10	#1
fatbadger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herts Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car I picked up my new vRS TDI on Friday, absolutely love it. I do however have one annoyance. I ordered dealer fitted parking sensors to get a car quickly with all the options I wanted. I thought this would mean I'd have the OEM Skoda sensors connected up to the stream unit. This has not happened. I have some other random ones with the bleeper unit on show fitted to the side shelf in the boot. The noise is so loud it's almost deafening and they seem to have a mind of their own. They bleep like mad when there is nothing behind me. Now admittedly it has been raining most of the weekend, but I did at one point wipe the rain off and they still bleeped randomly when there was a bush over 2 meters away. I also got some more random bleeping when reversing up a hill out of a drive down the pavement onto the road, and there was absolutely nothing behind me. I'm confused, a bit annoyed and needing some helpful advice on what to do about this? What should I do? Steve

14-04-2008, 11:28	#3
fatbadger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herts Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Thanks!!! Defo gotta take it back. It's very embarrassing as well when taking people out for a spin the brand new car. Any ideas of what my position is on them installing the non standard OEM sensors that dont connect to the stream? Steve

14-04-2008, 11:44	#4
apd007 Oops! :( Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The 2nd biggest city in the whole of England. Posts: 2,757 Thanks: 35 Thanked 51 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car AFAIK the only sensors that connect up to the Stream head unit are the factory fit ones. Sorry. I've got them on my car, and tbh, it's cool for passengers but I still look in the mirrors instead of looking at my stereo, I use the parking sensors as an additional aid. __________________ Support Briskoda join Freedom ======> Was :- Skoda 120LSE Yellow 1.2 ~ 60 BHP? Then :- Mk I Skoda Octavia Blueline 1.9 TDi 90 BHP. Now :- Mk II Skoda Octavia vRS Black 2.0 TFSI. 200 BHP.

14-04-2008, 11:46	#6
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,731 Thanks: 557 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Hmmm, is this car BRAND NEW? Did you pay the list price for factory fit parking sensors?? How long was it between ordering the car and receiving it? I suspect what may of happened is the a car was in stock/on order with all the options you wanted except parking sensors, so the dealer took delivery of it and retrofitted sensors. A bit sneaky, and would only have been acceptable had they fitted the OEM sensors to your car. Some cheapo aftermarket kit is a mickey take, and I'd not have accepted delivery of the car at all. Approach the dealer politely about it, and let us know what they say. EDIT - I should have read your post properly. The dealer fit sensors should be the genuine Skoda ones, these don't sound like those tbh. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

14-04-2008, 11:47	#7
apd007 Oops! :( Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: The 2nd biggest city in the whole of England. Posts: 2,757 Thanks: 35 Thanked 51 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Dealer fit and factory fit are two different things though. __________________ Support Briskoda join Freedom ======> Was :- Skoda 120LSE Yellow 1.2 ~ 60 BHP? Then :- Mk I Skoda Octavia Blueline 1.9 TDi 90 BHP. Now :- Mk II Skoda Octavia vRS Black 2.0 TFSI. 200 BHP.

14-04-2008, 11:49	#8
Parsko Roo Fighter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 515 Thanks: 14 Thanked 24 Times in 21 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car I had my sensors fitted by the dealer when I purchsed the Rooscout. The instructions were badged as Seat and the install was very neat with no visable wires or speakers. These also dont intigrate with the Dance Head unit but i only found out the factory fit ones did some time after the purchase. My advice would be this is just a bit of fluff realy as we should be watching where we are reversing and not at our radio dispay.It is possible that the factory fit kit is not able to be retro fitted. Did you request or make clear to the dealer you wanted it to intigrate with the display at the time of purchase? I would return o the dealer ask them to tidy up the install (speaker) and check that one of the sensors is not faulty. __________________

14-04-2008, 12:06	#9
fatbadger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herts Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Thanks for all the very quick replies guys. Yes the car is BRAND NEW and took just over 1 week for delivery. The car was picked from stock with all the options I wanted apart from the sensors. I knew the dealer was fitting the sensors and paid full price so expected OEM sensors. I did not notice the parking sensors were not OEM until friday evening when a mechanic friend of mine said what the hell is that, and pointed to the bleeper unit on your side shelf. Whoops!!! Does not look good at all. Saturday was when I noticed the random bleeping. I shall ask them politely because they have been nothing but nice with me, but I don't see why I should be paying for an install that is not in my opinion 100% I need to pop in there tomorrow so will be chatting to them then. I shall let you know!! Thanks again Steve

14-04-2008, 16:48	#10
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,679 Thanks: 87 Thanked 843 Times in 760 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Did you agree to them being fitted and if so do you feel you were mislead? If you feel strongly about it then I would reject the car. I would imagine they wanted the car registered before the end of the quarter. You will have to act quickly - Certainly in the first 14 days. Also if you have a finance agreement consider using them. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

14-04-2008, 18:11	#11
jamesmckelvie Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 448 Thanks: 24 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car effectively it is a new car now, because the dealer has tinkered with it. __________________ 1.9 TDI Elegance - Cappuccino Beige Plenty enough power and torque for the economy offered

14-04-2008, 20:04	#12
scoobynut Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 99 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car that's shocking- I'd be mortified. I thought the dealer fit was putting the OEM parts in....you surely wouldn't expect to pay list option price for such a poor bit of kit? Sounds like an advert I saw for JML parking sensors. The horror. JML Parking Sensor Sorry to hear about your problem :-( Good luck. I'm all for politeness, but don't forget you have to live with this.

14-04-2008, 20:26	#13
fordfan ECUless Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,847 Thanks: 28 Thanked 208 Times in 181 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car If you specified dealer fit, this is what I would expect them to fit: Skoda Accessories Which even though it has a Skoda part number, it is the same kit that a lot of manufacturers specify as an accessory. With regard to warranty, the rule used to be that any accessory fitted at PDi carried the same warranty as the car and any fitted at a later date had the standard parts warranty. It seems to me that the dealer fitted parking sensors as per your instructions maybe they should have told you that they would not be connected to the radio or it did not occur to them that you would assume that they would or you didn't ask. It sounds to me that they haven't been set up correctly or the control box may be faulty, polish in the sensors is also a favourite for an inaccurate signal.

14-04-2008, 21:34	#16
scoobynut Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 99 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car that's interesting. The after market ones (link above) is £125. The factory option is £260. Do you have to add labour costs onto the £125??

14-04-2008, 21:36	#17
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,679 Thanks: 87 Thanked 843 Times in 760 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Yes. The price on the website is exclusive of labour. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

14-04-2008, 21:39	#18
scoobynut Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 99 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car wow that was quick Stu . I just re read the Skoda website and was going to correct my post. In that case if the cost was close to £260 you'd expect it to be the same product (well I would). Funny, the dealer told me that maxidot was a waste of time and they could add the rear sensors. Now I know that was so they could shift a stock car. So glad I ordered one to be built :-)

15-04-2008, 07:12	#19
fatbadger Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Herts Posts: 23 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car Thanks for all the replies guys. I really appreciate it. The picture from the Skoda Accessories page shows the exact same bleeper unit that is sitting on my side shelf in the boot. Today I shall chat with them and I'm hoping this can be rectified ASAP. Fingers crossed. I shall post what happens later on. Thanks again. Steve

15-04-2008, 08:30	#20
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,892 Thanks: 37 Thanked 26 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Bit of advice needed: RE Parking Sensors on new car With the retrofit kit I would expect the bleeper to be installed inside the b-pillar, there shouldn't be anything visible. __________________ EddyH Audi S8 Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

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