Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside

andrew-sankus · 27-07-2008, 18:06

brake disc inside view.JPG

Hi All,

With regards to the above image, I will be phoning Skoda to ask for an inspection on both front brake discs. We bought the car at 14,810 miles the car now has 26,000 miles on it. What l'm asking is have any of you experienced this problem? The car in question is Vrs 2006 on a 55 plate petrol. I am aiming for a warranty claim and hopefully get both front discs changed.

andrew-sankus · 29-07-2008, 19:00

I phoned Skoda UK with regard to the corroded brake disc, the man l spoke to said the it's up to the dealer on what action is taken once the visual wheels off inspection is done. So here is hoping my dad as he is dropping the car off gets some good news. Failing that I'll be £184 short as l will have to fork out for 2 x dics's and a set of brake pads to replace the the existing setup.

ljphil78 · 29-07-2008, 21:22

not owning a mk2 i'm not certain but are the pads supposed to run that far inside the disc?? are the ones that are on there the correct size? you get rust on all brake discs (except ceramic and other fancy materials) is steel that is exposed to hot + cold, water, salt they are bound to rust except the friction area where any surface rust gets rubbed off.

andrew-sankus · 29-07-2008, 21:29

Hiya and thanks for the comment, I'm 100% the pads on the car are original skoda. But surely with only 26,000 miles on the clock both N/S/R O/S/R discs are pretty well corroded.

andrew-sankus · 29-07-2008, 21:32

Then again in hind sight my dad reckons the brake pads were taken from a porrous casting (where water has got in and contaminated the casting hence compromising the liquid metal)

andrew-sankus · 29-07-2008, 21:33

Well we will find out on Friday D-Day lol

gadgetman · 29-07-2008, 22:53

Could we not have posted this in your other thread?

Same advice applies. It's a 2-3yr old car with low mileage. As such it does a lot of standing around, which aids the corrosion. Same applies for exhausts. Low miles the exhaust gas doesnt get up to temp, so mainly unburnt fuel = faster corrosion. I've had cars hitting 60K before thinking of needing an exhaust! Dad does 5k/year, and his 3yr old 15k Mazda 3 is getting an exhaust this weekend as the back box fell clean off!

To give you an idea
Works car (56 plate mondeo) has had first set disks all round and 2nd set of pads @ 63K. My Mk 1 octy never had any work on the brakes and reached 45k in 3.5 years.

Low mileage is a killer for almost all cars and will cost you nearly as much as a high miler would have.

Dont expect Skoda to replace these is my advice. Normal wear and tear.

cheezemonkhai · 29-07-2008, 23:07

To be fair I've never seen a pair of discs wear like they have.

If they are the 312mm discs then the calliper should clamp the outer edges of the disk on both sides. I'd suggest that there is an issue with the calliper on the inner edge of that wheel.

The inner face of the disk is the side that the piston operates on with the outer face having the pad slide in the calliper. I get the impression that pad wasn't in correctly or was able to move in the calliper at some point as otherwise you shouldn't have got the rust up the top.

You might get the calliper fixed, but I'd expect them to ask you to make a contribution towards the cost of the discs/pads since they are part worn.

To be fair if you ask your skoda dealer for a good will discount on the brakes parts, I think you will be pleasantly surprised and the improvement in price for the work.

cheezemonkhai · 29-07-2008, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew-sankus

Hiya and thanks for the comment, I'm 100% the pads on the car are original skoda. But surely with only 26,000 miles on the clock both N/S/R O/S/R discs are pretty well corroded.

WRT the rear discs, they do that on low mileage cars as the work load put through them isn't usually the great.

andrew-sankus · 01-08-2008, 21:41

Well the idling problem has been fixed now, the silver beast is purring away now. As for the brakes everyone one was right, l will be buying new dics and pads (not from skoda) hopefully from GSF car parts in Glasgow.

Thanks to you all for putting up with my mad rant

Andy

gadgetman · 01-08-2008, 21:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew-sankus

Thanks to you all for putting up with my mad rant

What we're her for

andrew-sankus · 01-08-2008, 22:33

Will hopefully be purchasing drilled and grooved discs along with uprated pads from GSF in Glasgow on Saturday

andrew-sankus · 01-08-2008, 22:37

I believe the disc's on the MK2 Vrs are 312mm, is this correct? I fancy the Brembo sports disc's, What do you guys think?

All suggestions welcome

Andy

**VRStu** · 01-08-2008, 23:38

Make sure they give you the right PCD Andy - 5/112 312mm

andrew-sankus · 02-08-2008, 07:36

Thanks for the reply Stu most welcome, I will see what GSF have in stock anyways. Knowing my luck they won't have what l'm after. After seeing the Brembo drilled and grooved disc's l want them.

**VRStu** · 02-08-2008, 09:27

If you wanted OEM stuff again that can be had quite cheaply.

andrew-sankus · 02-08-2008, 13:03

I have ordered Black Diamond drilled and grooved discs with matching pads, from Drivers in Glasgow. Should be in the shop next week yayyyy

ljphil78 · 02-08-2008, 17:51

oh i guess you missed my other post about drilled discs

andrew-sankus · 02-08-2008, 18:13

It was an impluse buy, the words drilled and grooved were out my mouth before l realised oooops. I should have them by Saturday (fingers crossed). I was speaking to the parts manager at Henry's North in Glasgow, he is driving a fabia Vrs with the 312mm Octavia Vrs brake upgrade. Also noticed a 06 plate petrol Octavia Vrs with grooved discs on it sitting parked at the side of the dealership as well. Also the guys at GSF in Glasgow were very helpful as well. I want the ETOS system they use it looks very helpful

Thanks for all your help it is much appreciated.

Andy

Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs owner

andrew-sankus · 05-08-2008, 18:08

Hi All,

Received telephone call today from Driver's in Glasgow, that's my black diamond drilled and grooved discs in. I was in the shop on Saturday, the gentleman ordered them Monday and they arrived this morning Tuesday. So l will be looking at possibly an induction kit and a CAT back exhaust. and dump valve to finish everything off. Does anyone have have any recommendations regarding induction kit, CAT back exhaust & dump valve?

All suggestions welcome

Cheers

Andy

dan_the_v8man · 05-08-2008, 18:57

the car doesn't need a dump valve, but if your after the sound, the forge blow off spacer is highly recommended, all it does is make a noise though. exhaust has got to be the milltek cat back and as for induction kits, there seems to be a few good ones out there, im looking at the Evoms kit personally. have a search on here

andrew-sankus · 10-08-2008, 15:24

Hi All,

The new uprated disc's and pads were fitted Saturday morning at my Dad's work, unfortunately they weren't Black diamond (as they don't do VRS Mk2). I now have a set EBC Turbo groove & dimpled discs along with EBC Redstuff pads. Also priced Milltek CAT back as well £600, also priced the full system too £1700. Will have to save hard for the CAT back option and REVO (£585) remap as well. And Forge Spacer to go and make WHOOSH noises as well lol

27-07-2008, 18:06	#1
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside brake disc inside view.JPG Hi All, With regards to the above image, I will be phoning Skoda to ask for an inspection on both front brake discs. We bought the car at 14,810 miles the car now has 26,000 miles on it. What l'm asking is have any of you experienced this problem? The car in question is Vrs 2006 on a 55 plate petrol. I am aiming for a warranty claim and hopefully get both front discs changed.

29-07-2008, 19:00	#2
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside I phoned Skoda UK with regard to the corroded brake disc, the man l spoke to said the it's up to the dealer on what action is taken once the visual wheels off inspection is done. So here is hoping my dad as he is dropping the car off gets some good news. Failing that I'll be £184 short as l will have to fork out for 2 x dics's and a set of brake pads to replace the the existing setup.

29-07-2008, 21:22	#3
ljphil78 Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ashford Posts: 96 Members Car: 53 Black Magic Octy VRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside not owning a mk2 i'm not certain but are the pads supposed to run that far inside the disc?? are the ones that are on there the correct size? you get rust on all brake discs (except ceramic and other fancy materials) is steel that is exposed to hot + cold, water, salt they are bound to rust except the friction area where any surface rust gets rubbed off. __________________ Black Magic Grill Surround, BlueFlame 100cel sports exhaust, Green Panel Filter, Forge DV, Forge DV Relocation Kit, Forge TIP Black Diamond Disc's Front + Rear, Ferodo DS2500 Pads Front +Rear, 18" New Style RS4's + Toyo T1-R's

29-07-2008, 21:29	#4
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Hiya and thanks for the comment, I'm 100% the pads on the car are original skoda. But surely with only 26,000 miles on the clock both N/S/R O/S/R discs are pretty well corroded.

29-07-2008, 21:32	#5
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Then again in hind sight my dad reckons the brake pads were taken from a porrous casting (where water has got in and contaminated the casting hence compromising the liquid metal) Last edited by andrew-sankus; 29-07-2008 at 21:38.

29-07-2008, 21:33	#6
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Well we will find out on Friday D-Day lol

29-07-2008, 22:53	#7
gadgetman Go Gadget Octy! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,414 Members Car: Thanks: 220 Thanked 120 Times in 113 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Could we not have posted this in your other thread? Same advice applies. It's a 2-3yr old car with low mileage. As such it does a lot of standing around, which aids the corrosion. Same applies for exhausts. Low miles the exhaust gas doesnt get up to temp, so mainly unburnt fuel = faster corrosion. I've had cars hitting 60K before thinking of needing an exhaust! Dad does 5k/year, and his 3yr old 15k Mazda 3 is getting an exhaust this weekend as the back box fell clean off! To give you an idea Works car (56 plate mondeo) has had first set disks all round and 2nd set of pads @ 63K. My Mk 1 octy never had any work on the brakes and reached 45k in 3.5 years. Low mileage is a killer for almost all cars and will cost you nearly as much as a high miler would have. Dont expect Skoda to replace these is my advice. Normal wear and tear. __________________ Lick the window of life Why not join the Briskoda Last.fm group?

29-07-2008, 23:07	#8
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,664 Members Car: Thanks: 116 Thanked 526 Times in 487 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside To be fair I've never seen a pair of discs wear like they have. If they are the 312mm discs then the calliper should clamp the outer edges of the disk on both sides. I'd suggest that there is an issue with the calliper on the inner edge of that wheel. The inner face of the disk is the side that the piston operates on with the outer face having the pad slide in the calliper. I get the impression that pad wasn't in correctly or was able to move in the calliper at some point as otherwise you shouldn't have got the rust up the top. You might get the calliper fixed, but I'd expect them to ask you to make a contribution towards the cost of the discs/pads since they are part worn. To be fair if you ask your skoda dealer for a good will discount on the brakes parts, I think you will be pleasantly surprised and the improvement in price for the work. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

01-08-2008, 21:41	#10
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Well the idling problem has been fixed now, the silver beast is purring away now. As for the brakes everyone one was right, l will be buying new dics and pads (not from skoda) hopefully from GSF car parts in Glasgow. Thanks to you all for putting up with my mad rant Andy

01-08-2008, 22:33	#12
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Will hopefully be purchasing drilled and grooved discs along with uprated pads from GSF in Glasgow on Saturday

01-08-2008, 22:37	#13
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside I believe the disc's on the MK2 Vrs are 312mm, is this correct? I fancy the Brembo sports disc's, What do you guys think? All suggestions welcome Andy Last edited by andrew-sankus; 02-08-2008 at 00:00.

01-08-2008, 23:38	#14
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Make sure they give you the right PCD Andy - 5/112 312mm __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

02-08-2008, 07:36	#15
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Thanks for the reply Stu most welcome, I will see what GSF have in stock anyways. Knowing my luck they won't have what l'm after. After seeing the Brembo drilled and grooved disc's l want them.

02-08-2008, 09:27	#16
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside If you wanted OEM stuff again that can be had quite cheaply. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

02-08-2008, 13:03	#17
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside I have ordered Black Diamond drilled and grooved discs with matching pads, from Drivers in Glasgow. Should be in the shop next week yayyyy

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andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Hi All, Received telephone call today from Driver's in Glasgow, that's my black diamond drilled and grooved discs in. I was in the shop on Saturday, the gentleman ordered them Monday and they arrived this morning Tuesday. So l will be looking at possibly an induction kit and a CAT back exhaust. and dump valve to finish everything off. Does anyone have have any recommendations regarding induction kit, CAT back exhaust & dump valve? All suggestions welcome Cheers Andy

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dan_the_v8man Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheffield Posts: 367 Members Car: Octavia vRS TFSI 57 Plate Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside the car doesn't need a dump valve, but if your after the sound, the forge blow off spacer is highly recommended, all it does is make a noise though. exhaust has got to be the milltek cat back and as for induction kits, there seems to be a few good ones out there, im looking at the Evoms kit personally. have a search on here __________________ 57 Mk2 2.0TFSI vRS Estate in Race Blue, Code Red Stage 1 Remap, Code Red Intake, Code Red Engine Cover and Forge Blowoff Spacer

10-08-2008, 15:24	#22
andrew-sankus Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78 Members Car: Diamond Silver Octavia Mk2 Vrs Petrol Thanks: 18 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Corroded Front Brake Discs on the inside Hi All, The new uprated disc's and pads were fitted Saturday morning at my Dad's work, unfortunately they weren't Black diamond (as they don't do VRS Mk2). I now have a set EBC Turbo groove & dimpled discs along with EBC Redstuff pads. Also priced Milltek CAT back as well £600, also priced the full system too £1700. Will have to save hard for the CAT back option and REVO (£585) remap as well. And Forge Spacer to go and make WHOOSH noises as well lol Last edited by andrew-sankus; 12-08-2008 at 20:14.

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