A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please?

djgritt · 06-07-2008, 23:34

Right
Recently, have found a few potential/definite issues with the car So, am after some opinions/info on them that you may have/know

Firstly

My Drivers doorcard lining has began to bubble and lift from the Card;

Any ideas as to why? It's not my elbow, i use the lower rest for that...

Reckon i can get a replacement on Warranty for it?

Secondly

It seemingly took a Wazz lastnight - has happened before, but left puddles as wasn't parked on slope)
I had a rather long trail of water emerge from under it - Coolant levels haven't dropped either - it appears it's from under the Driver, maybe by the footpedal sort of area? Any ideas?

Thirdly, and Lastly

Rear Disc, Passenger Side - it is showing 2 lines of what look like fine dimples, running across the disc face - almost like very fine cracks;

I'm considering popping by a dealership tomorrow to get them to give an opinion (and write it down for me if they say it's fine, just in case... )Anyone had experience of this atall?Cheers in advance :up:

bosnjo · 07-07-2008, 00:19

Let me tell you about leaking.
Once, I've hit the dog getting out of the motorway (company car - Megane).
I've stopped the car and there was some liquid leaking bellow the car. Called assistance and as they took half an hour to get there, leaking has stopped. I've checked coolant level, washer bottle, oil, brakes fluid... all looked ok. When assistance came they asked if I had air conditioner on, before I've stopped. I said yes... So it's condensed water, that's all. When you parked the car that night, were you driving before with AC on?
About door bubbling, go to your dealer, they'll replace it on warranty. I've had problem with chrome door inner handle. Chrome was pealing off and I've cut myself on it. Replaced with no problems, just had to wait one week for part to arrive.
Those disks look OK to me, but only if you have low mileage. Is your car still new? Disk surface is not perfectly flat when new. So it needs some time to get perfect, let's say up to 500 or even 1000 km sometimes. If you have more than that on the clock, then visit the dealer. Do you feel that car is shaking when you brake? If you think it's cracks, then look on the other side (inside) of the disk and see if it has marks on the same place. If it does then disk has cracked and is very, very dangerous.

djgritt · 07-07-2008, 00:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnjo

Let me tell you about leaking.
Once, I've hit the dog getting out of the motorway (company car - Megane).
I've stopped the car and there was some liquid leaking bellow the car. Called assistance and as they took half an hour to get there, leaking has stopped. I've checked coolant level, washer bottle, oil, brakes fluid... all looked ok. When assistance came they asked if I had air conditioner on, before I've stopped. I said yes... So it's condensed water, that's all. When you parked the car that night, were you driving before with AC on?

Yes, i had the AC on, i thought this would be the cause of it, but just thought i would confirm it

About door bubbling, go to your dealer, they'll replace it on warranty. I've had problem with chrome door inner handle. Chrome was pealing off and I've cut myself on it. Replaced with no problems, just had to wait one week for part to arrive.

Will mention this on next Service which is due soonish, see if it will be done on Warranty

Those disks look OK to me, but only if you have low mileage. Is your car still new? Disk surface is not perfectly flat when new. So it needs some time to get perfect, let's say up to 500 or even 1000 km sometimes. If you have more than that on the clock, then visit the dealer. Do you feel that car is shaking when you brake? If you think it's cracks, then look on the other side (inside) of the disk and see if it has marks on the same place. If it does then disk has cracked and is very, very dangerous.

The Discs have done 31,000 Miles
No Shaking/Vibrations or Funny Noises
They Look slightly like Cracks, but more like lines of small indents
Will visit a Dealer about them

Cheers

dan_the_v8man · 07-07-2008, 00:58

do you like to give your car a good thrash? to me that looks like the sort of fine cracks you get when you overheat the discs, used to be a regular ocurrance on my focus, blue discs, wears off with time but the resulting fine cracks remain, i think i've got them on the octavia too, came from a speed i don't wish to mention to a standstill and the pads were smoking

Browny_37 · 07-07-2008, 01:31

Is the handbrake worked off of a cam pushing the pads onto the disc?
Or are they the sort that have a set of brake shoes that run on the inside of the disc?
Use to get lines like this on my astra coupe once i'd been parked up. (soon rubbed off)

If not they do look like defects (cracks) to me pal, deal with this sort of thing in my dad job. Quite suprised they run all the way across the disc tbh though, usually need a weak spot to go from like drilled discs.
I do Non Destructive Tests on fastenings forgings and castings, typical sort of indications id expect to see on poor forgings/castings.
If you'd have been closer i could have probably helped you determine wether they were or wernt.
But on the side of caution i'd have the rear discs and pads changed.

Taxi 219 · 07-07-2008, 03:03

Would your doorcard problem be water ingress from the window and getting underneath the trim lining.the amount of water that comes in when i have my window open slightly in the rain is ridiculous.

PS: Don,t take it to Westover Skoda Corfe Mullen as it will end up worse than when you took it in.
Good luck

blades · 07-07-2008, 08:33

My door card went the same but I figured out it was where I was resting my elbow when driving

madfiddler · 07-07-2008, 09:41

surely eve if you do rest you elbow on the door card, its still defective. Its not exactly misuse is it?

what do skoda expect...."Yes sir, this car is wonderful. But please just LOOK, no TOUCHING allowed!" LOL!

**VRStu** · 07-07-2008, 10:14

That is quite typical damage caused by elbows on the doorcard, I have seen a few.

I would agree the water is the A/C

It's very difficult to be sure from the photo but I would say there is every chance they are cracks and I would want it looked at ASAP.

London Les · 07-07-2008, 11:16

The marks on the disks are very similar to those on my Focus and Octavia. They were caused by being parked up on the roadside with the handbrake on. They were caused by salt and water corrosion. It only took a week with salt throw on by a gritter.

Sammycarp · 07-07-2008, 11:25

My door card does that too - right where I rest my elbow.

As previously said, the 'leak' is condensation from the A/C.

No ideas on the brakes, but I'd say that its a potential safety issue, and needs to be looked at ASAP.

sebulbus · 07-07-2008, 13:34

I'd say those shapes on the disks match the sides of the brake pad's contours pretty well. Probably nothing to worry about, just the disks collecting debris round their edges while the car was standing still.
Get the door card replaced. No seller in his mind can refuse that as a warranty job. If he does have him put that in writing and call the Skoda mother ship.

cheezemonkhai · 07-07-2008, 14:09

I'd get the discs looked at, however there is a reasonable change that it is pad deposit as the lines run in a similar shape to the pads.

As for the door card, I think regardless of whether it's elbow or not, that is a common thing to do and a car should be able to take it, so it should be done under warranty.

djgritt · 07-07-2008, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxi 219

PS: Don,t take it to Westover Skoda Corfe Mullen as it will end up worse than when you took it in.
Good luck

Oh no, i will NEVER be returning to them bunch of incompetent ****'s.

They were the people who misdiagnosed the Engine Mount failure and caused me the 6-months of Grief i had last year

djgritt · 07-07-2008, 18:07

Cheers everyone - will stop at a Dealership to get the bits looked over

Browny_37 · 07-07-2008, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by djgritt

Oh no, i will NEVER be returning to them bunch of incompetent ****'s.

They were the people who misdiagnosed the Engine Mount failure and caused me the 6-months of Grief i had last year

Was the car popping out of gear on the over run?

djgritt · 07-07-2008, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Browny_37

Was the car popping out of gear on the over run?

No, the mount came disattached from the Engine, causing it to drop and lunch the Cambelt and kill the engine. They said it had a twisted Chassis after a Car-park dink. It didn't.

That led to Skoda not wanting to do anything to fix under warranty until we had to prove the Car was straight. Long Story...

**mannyo** · 08-07-2008, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by blades

My door card went the same but I figured out it was where I was resting my elbow when driving

Mines the same, and has bubbled in the same place where I rest my elbow when driving. Passenger door is still fine though. My car is 3 years old though with nearly 56K miles on it.

06-07-2008, 23:34	#1
djgritt Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 601 Members Car: 2007 Octavia vRS Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? Right Recently, have found a few potential/definite issues with the car So, am after some opinions/info on them that you may have/know Firstly My Drivers doorcard lining has began to bubble and lift from the Card; Any ideas as to why? It's not my elbow, i use the lower rest for that... Reckon i can get a replacement on Warranty for it? Secondly It seemingly took a Wazz lastnight - has happened before, but left puddles as wasn't parked on slope) I had a rather long trail of water emerge from under it - Coolant levels haven't dropped either - it appears it's from under the Driver, maybe by the footpedal sort of area? Any ideas? Thirdly, and Lastly Rear Disc, Passenger Side - it is showing 2 lines of what look like fine dimples, running across the disc face - almost like very fine cracks; I'm considering popping by a dealership tomorrow to get them to give an opinion (and write it down for me if they say it's fine, just in case... )Anyone had experience of this atall?Cheers in advance :up: __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

07-07-2008, 00:19	#2
bosnjo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 596 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Sport 2006 Thanks: 3 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? Let me tell you about leaking. Once, I've hit the dog getting out of the motorway (company car - Megane). I've stopped the car and there was some liquid leaking bellow the car. Called assistance and as they took half an hour to get there, leaking has stopped. I've checked coolant level, washer bottle, oil, brakes fluid... all looked ok. When assistance came they asked if I had air conditioner on, before I've stopped. I said yes... So it's condensed water, that's all. When you parked the car that night, were you driving before with AC on? About door bubbling, go to your dealer, they'll replace it on warranty. I've had problem with chrome door inner handle. Chrome was pealing off and I've cut myself on it. Replaced with no problems, just had to wait one week for part to arrive. Those disks look OK to me, but only if you have low mileage. Is your car still new? Disk surface is not perfectly flat when new. So it needs some time to get perfect, let's say up to 500 or even 1000 km sometimes. If you have more than that on the clock, then visit the dealer. Do you feel that car is shaking when you brake? If you think it's cracks, then look on the other side (inside) of the disk and see if it has marks on the same place. If it does then disk has cracked and is very, very dangerous. __________________ Octavia 2006 2.0 TDI Sport (equal to L&K in UK) - 17' wheels, Sport suspension, Xenons, Audience with Sound System, Bluetooth, Front & Back Parking Sensors - - VAG COM -

07-07-2008, 00:58	#4
dan_the_v8man Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sheffield Posts: 367 Members Car: Octavia vRS TFSI 57 Plate Thanks: 16 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? do you like to give your car a good thrash? to me that looks like the sort of fine cracks you get when you overheat the discs, used to be a regular ocurrance on my focus, blue discs, wears off with time but the resulting fine cracks remain, i think i've got them on the octavia too, came from a speed i don't wish to mention to a standstill and the pads were smoking __________________ 57 Mk2 2.0TFSI vRS Estate in Race Blue, Code Red Stage 1 Remap, Code Red Intake, Code Red Engine Cover and Forge Blowoff Spacer

07-07-2008, 01:31	#5
Browny_37 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Rotherham Posts: 212 Members Car: Mk2 Octavia 1.9TDI Classic Thanks: 11 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? Is the handbrake worked off of a cam pushing the pads onto the disc? Or are they the sort that have a set of brake shoes that run on the inside of the disc? Use to get lines like this on my astra coupe once i'd been parked up. (soon rubbed off) If not they do look like defects (cracks) to me pal, deal with this sort of thing in my dad job. Quite suprised they run all the way across the disc tbh though, usually need a weak spot to go from like drilled discs. I do Non Destructive Tests on fastenings forgings and castings, typical sort of indications id expect to see on poor forgings/castings. If you'd have been closer i could have probably helped you determine wether they were or wernt. But on the side of caution i'd have the rear discs and pads changed.

07-07-2008, 03:03	#6
Taxi 219 Not anymore Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 2,245 Members Car: Octavia TDi 2006 Thanks: 107 Thanked 111 Times in 108 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? Would your doorcard problem be water ingress from the window and getting underneath the trim lining.the amount of water that comes in when i have my window open slightly in the rain is ridiculous. PS: Don,t take it to Westover Skoda Corfe Mullen as it will end up worse than when you took it in. Good luck __________________ Car now: 56 Octavia MK2 1.9TDi Ambiente-Debadged-Metallic Flamenco Red DMF Reqiured soon Previous: 06 Octavia Mk1 1.9TDi Classic with + pack-Diamond Silver Sadly missed: 97 Nissan Primera 2.0TDi SLX- Red Paul I only live for GTA IV

07-07-2008, 08:33	#7
blades Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 500 Members Car: octavia vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? My door card went the same but I figured out it was where I was resting my elbow when driving

07-07-2008, 09:41	#8
madfiddler Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: East Midlands, UK Posts: 243 Members Car: 2002/52 Octavia 1.9 TDI Ambiente (Silver) Thanks: 24 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? surely eve if you do rest you elbow on the door card, its still defective. Its not exactly misuse is it? what do skoda expect...."Yes sir, this car is wonderful. But please just LOOK, no TOUCHING allowed!" LOL! __________________ 2008 Octavia 2.0L TDI Laurent & Klement Storm Blue, Alcantara interior, Columbus Navigation, OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone

07-07-2008, 10:14	#9
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? That is quite typical damage caused by elbows on the doorcard, I have seen a few. I would agree the water is the A/C It's very difficult to be sure from the photo but I would say there is every chance they are cracks and I would want it looked at ASAP. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

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London Les Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE London Posts: 152 Members Car: Octavia MY08 Elegance Estate Thanks: 9 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? The marks on the disks are very similar to those on my Focus and Octavia. They were caused by being parked up on the roadside with the handbrake on. They were caused by salt and water corrosion. It only took a week with salt throw on by a gritter. __________________

07-07-2008, 11:25	#11
Sammycarp Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: North Cheltenham Posts: 222 Members Car: Oscar - Flamenco Red 2.0TDI Octavia Elegance Estate + Climatronic 'Off' Mod. Thanks: 4 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? My door card does that too - right where I rest my elbow. As previously said, the 'leak' is condensation from the A/C. No ideas on the brakes, but I'd say that its a potential safety issue, and needs to be looked at ASAP. __________________ Non Illegitematae Carborundum! MY07 PD140 Elegance Estate + Metallic Paint + Climatronic 'Off' Mod. SWMBO - MY04 1.9TDI Fabia Comfort + Metallic Paint.

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sebulbus Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: .ro Posts: 536 Members Car: Thanks: 8 Thanked 38 Times in 30 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? I'd say those shapes on the disks match the sides of the brake pad's contours pretty well. Probably nothing to worry about, just the disks collecting debris round their edges while the car was standing still. Get the door card replaced. No seller in his mind can refuse that as a warranty job. If he does have him put that in writing and call the Skoda mother ship. __________________ Milk Inc's newest #1 fan

07-07-2008, 14:09	#13
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,664 Members Car: Thanks: 116 Thanked 526 Times in 487 Posts	Re: A couple of potential Issues - opinions/info please? I'd get the discs looked at, however there is a reasonable change that it is pad deposit as the lines run in a similar shape to the pads. As for the door card, I think regardless of whether it's elbow or not, that is a common thing to do and a car should be able to take it, so it should be done under warranty. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

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