Deal or No Deal!

Makefish · 13-01-2006, 18:53

Been back to my friendly dealer today and been offered this deal. Ex-Demo (it's only a week old and done 400mls!!) new Octy II vRS with 18"Alloys, Jumbo Box, Dual Climate in Black Magic Paint for £16,000. Deal or No Deal?

yaktrebor · 13-01-2006, 19:13

What would be the list price for this specification?

More important....What would be the wait for an ordered one?

I wonder if anyone (not a dealer) actually owns one yet?

Makefish · 13-01-2006, 19:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by yaktrebor

....What would be the list price for this specification?

List price including all the extra's listed would be approximately £18,500!

ag.morley · 13-01-2006, 19:19

I don't think you will be able to pick up the car until April/May. It will still be used as a Demo Until then.Think of all the Testers ( like me Tommorrow ) who just might thrash it.....I once offered to buy a " Demo " but couldn't have it for 3 months........It's somthing to do with Dealer Tax or somthing............So I've been told

**roo** · 13-01-2006, 19:20

depending on how long you will have to wait, deal.

if not put me on it and I'll take it for that price

mdk1 · 13-01-2006, 19:44

Thought dealers had to keep there demos for 3/4 months aswell.

skodaw · 13-01-2006, 20:09

Yes officialy dealers are meant to keep demo's for three months - however they may let you have the car for a 3 month roadtest

and then complete the paperwork.

Sooty · 13-01-2006, 20:40

Rule of thumb, as soon as the car leaves the dealership you lose the VAT, so you ideally need the discount for a demo to be worth at least that, as it is in effect a 2nd hand car.

So 17.5% of £18500 is £2755 so personally, I wouldn't pay more than £15745.

PaulC · 13-01-2006, 23:02

All depends on what they will give you for yours it may be a reduced value.

Tom_vRS · 13-01-2006, 23:05

I agree - depends what they offer you for your lovely (nearly new IIRC) one.

skodaw · 13-01-2006, 23:09

Plus I would be suprised if a dealer would sell a demo so soon,it may be some time before they will receive there next demo.

They may use you to order a "customer" car which in actual fact would be there next demo -- this would allow them to have a better specced and different colour demo to the other dealers.

**mannyo** · 13-01-2006, 23:19

My octy vRS was going to be the dealer demo, I bought it before they had even registered it. They had only had a few days, and a week later it was mine. Hence why I had one of the 1st in the UK apart from the press cars.

**VRStu** · 14-01-2006, 09:05

What did they offer for yours Steve??

It's a little surprising that they want to shift the demo car already, perhaps they need the business.

DaveI · 14-01-2006, 12:15

There's a New Octy vRS on Autotrader, all the pictures are on there, Black, 18's and so on. Delivery March sometime, can't remember the price but it's obviously the garages demo that they are trying to get a firm buyer for.

ag.morley · 14-01-2006, 15:50

On the Skoda Used Car Section, Look in cars arriving shortly, New octy vRS £17.2k

beeftech · 14-01-2006, 16:31

My Local Dealer hasn't sold one!!!!!! So Trade might be slow!!!!

sdenny · 15-01-2006, 11:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooty

Rule of thumb, as soon as the car leaves the dealership you lose the VAT, so you ideally need the discount for a demo to be worth at least that, as it is in effect a 2nd hand car.

So 17.5% of £18500 is £2755 so personally, I wouldn't pay more than £15745.

<pedant>Actually, 17.5 % of £18500 is £3237.50</pedant>

(but I know what you mean

)

**VRStu** · 15-01-2006, 14:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdenny

<pedant>Actually, 17.5 % of £18500 is £3237.50</pedant>

(but I know what you mean

)

Actually he is right if you want to subtract the VAT element you only subtract 15%.

Sooty · 16-01-2006, 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdenny

<pedant>Actually, 17.5 % of £18500 is £3237.50</pedant>

(but I know what you mean

)

Obviously you don't.

Back to school for you !!

<'a' level maths mode off>

sdenny · 16-01-2006, 15:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Actually he is right if you want to subtract the VAT element you only subtract 15%.

Not sure who you're saying is right.....

But 17.5 % of 18500 = 18500/100 * 17.5 = 3237.5.

Vat is calculated as 17.5 % of the EX VAT price. Thus the VAT inclusive price you pay is 117.5% of the original price.

Say i buy something for £100 + vat. 17.5 % of £100 = £17.5, so the total price is £117.5.

So, now if something is priced at £117.5 inc vat and I wish to pay the ex vat price, I divide the price by 117.5 and then multiply back by 100 to get back to my £100. (Your subtract 15% is only an approximation - 15% of 117.5 is 17.625, which would make the ex vat price 99.875 which is wrong.)

In Sooty's post, the price was £18500. This is 117.5% of the price as it includes the VAT, so divide by 117.5 and multiple by 100 to give £15744.68. So I agree with the price, but not the comment of "17.5% of £18500 is £2755". 17.5 % of £15745 is approx £2755. £15745 + £2755 gives £18500.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooty

Obviously you don't.

Back to school for you !!

<'a' level maths mode off>

If we're playing Top Trumps, I've got and 'A' in A-level maths, and a 'C' in further maths

Sooty · 16-01-2006, 17:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdenny

If we're playing Top Trumps, I've got and 'A' in A-level maths, and a 'C' in further maths

My dad's bigger than yours.

Oh, and I've got a TVR.

sdenny · 16-01-2006, 21:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooty

My dad's bigger than yours.

So you admit I'm right then?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sooty

Oh, and I've got a TVR.

Would you like me to come and pick you up

blades · 17-01-2006, 08:30

times it by 0.851

Sooty · 17-01-2006, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdenny

So you admit I'm right then?

NEVER !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdenny

Would you like me to come and pick you up

I've got another 680bhp to do that, thanks.

lozgti · 17-01-2006, 13:31

Head spinning.Sounds like a nice figure to me though £16k.

Cheapest 1.8 Mondeo is about that price

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13-01-2006, 18:53	#1
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 8,277 Members Car: Golf PD105 Thanks: 187 Thanked 248 Times in 184 Posts	Deal or No Deal! Been back to my friendly dealer today and been offered this deal. Ex-Demo (it's only a week old and done 400mls!!) new Octy II vRS with 18"Alloys, Jumbo Box, Dual Climate in Black Magic Paint for £16,000. Deal or No Deal? __________________ Superchips Bluefin only £390 @ JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinxmas2008.htm

13-01-2006, 19:13	#2
yaktrebor Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Bakewell, Derbyshire, where the puddings come from. (That's tarts to foreigners!) Posts: 553 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! What would be the list price for this specification? More important....What would be the wait for an ordered one? I wonder if anyone (not a dealer) actually owns one yet? __________________ 'No more beer!' (unless it's GF)

13-01-2006, 19:19	#4
ag.morley Insecure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right on track........ Posts: 4,947 Members Car: Volvo 2.4 T SE XC70 Auto running on LPG Thanks: 14 Thanked 79 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! I don't think you will be able to pick up the car until April/May. It will still be used as a Demo Until then.Think of all the Testers ( like me Tommorrow ) who just might thrash it.....I once offered to buy a " Demo " but couldn't have it for 3 months........It's somthing to do with Dealer Tax or somthing............So I've been told __________________ I now own a Volvo 2.4T Automatic V70 XC 4 wheel drive, Estate, running on LPG......In a Lovely shade of Gold---THE BATTLE TANK "BRISKOLVO ".......THE UK'S ONLY MEMBER......." IT'S THE WAY FORWARD "

13-01-2006, 19:44	#6
mdk1 go green Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Rochester, Kent Posts: 4,181 Members Car: Roomy 3 & Fabia Thanks: 166 Thanked 133 Times in 117 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! Thought dealers had to keep there demos for 3/4 months aswell. __________________ Mike. Mine Skoda Roomster 3 TDI in matallic Anthracite Grey MKLJK Swmbo's Skoda Fabia 2.0I Elegance in Dark matallic Blue MKLJK

13-01-2006, 20:09	#7
skodaw Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: This area is under construction - please call back later :) Posts: 3,186 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! Yes officialy dealers are meant to keep demo's for three months - however they may let you have the car for a 3 month roadtest and then complete the paperwork. __________________ Dave '05 Silver Fabia vRS

13-01-2006, 20:40	#8
Sooty Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NW UK Posts: 168 Members Car: New Octavia Ambiente 2.0TDi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! Rule of thumb, as soon as the car leaves the dealership you lose the VAT, so you ideally need the discount for a demo to be worth at least that, as it is in effect a 2nd hand car. So 17.5% of £18500 is £2755 so personally, I wouldn't pay more than £15745. __________________ 2005 Storm Blue metallic Octavia Ambiente 2.0TDi 1994 Diamond Black BMW 540i 1991 Pacific Blue Lotus Elan SE 1989 Red MR2 T-bar & 1987 Mica Blue MR2 T-bar turbo 1984 Blue Astra 1200S

13-01-2006, 23:02	#9
PaulC Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nuneaton UK Posts: 1,168 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! All depends on what they will give you for yours it may be a reduced value.

13-01-2006, 23:05	#10
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! I agree - depends what they offer you for your lovely (nearly new IIRC) one. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

13-01-2006, 23:09	#11
skodaw Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: This area is under construction - please call back later :) Posts: 3,186 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! Plus I would be suprised if a dealer would sell a demo so soon,it may be some time before they will receive there next demo. They may use you to order a "customer" car which in actual fact would be there next demo -- this would allow them to have a better specced and different colour demo to the other dealers. __________________ Dave '05 Silver Fabia vRS

13-01-2006, 23:19	#12
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,474 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 361 Times in 332 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! My octy vRS was going to be the dealer demo, I bought it before they had even registered it. They had only had a few days, and a week later it was mine. Hence why I had one of the 1st in the UK apart from the press cars. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

14-01-2006, 09:05	#13
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! What did they offer for yours Steve?? It's a little surprising that they want to shift the demo car already, perhaps they need the business. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

14-01-2006, 12:15	#14
DaveI Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,054 Members Car: Seat Leon FR TDi Thanks: 52 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! There's a New Octy vRS on Autotrader, all the pictures are on there, Black, 18's and so on. Delivery March sometime, can't remember the price but it's obviously the garages demo that they are trying to get a firm buyer for. __________________ 2007 Seat Leon FR TDi 170 Bluetooth / Convenience Pack / 18s / Rear Parking Sensors / Front Centre Arm Rest / Passenger Airbag Disconnect / Free Dealer Mats / Brodit Mount + Brodit Tom Tom One Active Holder Used to have an A5 Skoda Octavia 1.9 TDi Elegance Combi and Missing somewhere comfy to rest my right arm!

14-01-2006, 15:50	#15
ag.morley Insecure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right on track........ Posts: 4,947 Members Car: Volvo 2.4 T SE XC70 Auto running on LPG Thanks: 14 Thanked 79 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! On the Skoda Used Car Section, Look in cars arriving shortly, New octy vRS £17.2k __________________ I now own a Volvo 2.4T Automatic V70 XC 4 wheel drive, Estate, running on LPG......In a Lovely shade of Gold---THE BATTLE TANK "BRISKOLVO ".......THE UK'S ONLY MEMBER......." IT'S THE WAY FORWARD "

14-01-2006, 16:31	#16
beeftech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,526 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! My Local Dealer hasn't sold one!!!!!! So Trade might be slow!!!! __________________ '05 Corrida Red Fabia vRS: Revo'd to 185Bhp '90 Nugget Yellow Corrado 1.8T: KO4S and 265bhp

17-01-2006, 08:30	#23
blades Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 500 Members Car: octavia vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! times it by 0.851

17-01-2006, 13:31	#25
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,722 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Deal or No Deal! Head spinning.Sounds like a nice figure to me though £16k. Cheapest 1.8 Mondeo is about that price

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