Dealer margin is it 15%?

Lummox · 23-10-2007, 19:47

More like 5%

**VRStu** · 23-10-2007, 19:59

I think it's 8% on the front end plus some cars carry other incentives at certain times.

If you want 15% you need to go and look at Ford.

oilburninnut · 23-10-2007, 20:05

when i was given an exchange on an 04 fabia vrs which was rejected because of faults it was 12% on that car

Tom_vRS · 23-10-2007, 20:05

Plus there are %bonuses too, e.g. if they sell 5 cars they might get an extra 1%, 20 cars an extra 5%, hence sometimes a really stonking deal can be had, as one extra sale could lead to a massive extra bonus.

markmuddimer · 23-10-2007, 20:17

Hi Tom, I've just started a post on best discounts for vRS Octavia. I need to find a dealer looking for that magic deal with the extra discount! I noticed the following deal on buyacar.co.uk:

Summary Price
Skoda Octavia 2.0T FSI vRS 5dr Hatchback £ 15,751
Metallic - Race blue £350
17" Zenith alloy wheels £0
Climatic air conditioning with automatic regulation £0
Maxidot £120
Cruise control £180
12 months road fund license (tax) £0
Driven delivery within England and Wales - free Transporter delivery within England and Wales - £280.00 Driven delivery to Scotland - £180.00 Transporter delivery to Scotland - £400.00 Driven/Ferry delivery to Belfast - £180.00 Collection from Buyacar London office - free help £0

Full Skoda warranty
New UK Skoda dealer supplied
Part exchange welcome
Finance options available

Total buyacar on the road (OTR) price £16401

What do you think to that?

**VRStu** · 23-10-2007, 20:22

Skoda have a current offer which gives free equipment upgrades -

18" wheels
Jumbo Box/Armrest
Dual Zone Aircon
Rear Electric Windows

Those should be included in a car which is sourced from a UK dealer, albeit by a broker.

dstev2000 · 23-10-2007, 20:23

Is the free 18" alloy/rear leccy window/dual zone climatronic/jumbo box freebie not included? Well worth getting for the vRS.

Free vRS upgrades

EDIT: Beaten to it

markmuddimer · 23-10-2007, 20:28

I would like those free options! Especiallt the 18 inch rims!

markmuddimer · 23-10-2007, 20:28

sloppy typing forgive me!

dstev2000 · 23-10-2007, 20:33

You would be wise to have those goodies on the car. Would be helpful when it eventually comes to selling the old girl.

Besides, the jumbo box and 2zone make a massive difference to the interior.

Tom_vRS · 23-10-2007, 21:10

Buy a Car, Deals on New Cars, drivethedeal.com, New Car Discount, Car Deal Online do the Octavia vRS with the extras pack for £15764... UK car, you collect from and pay the supplying dealer.

Got to be worth a look.

markmuddimer · 23-10-2007, 21:18

That sounds good Tom, I'll look into that thanks.

fireblade · 23-10-2007, 21:54

y dont u look at motorpoint website, octavia vrs in silver 18 inch alloys etc etc £14500 approx!!!! wot a bargain.

adder · 23-10-2007, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

More like 5%

Bollox! I've heard of somebody getting nearly 14%
I believe Ford is 10%...
BMW dealers get 15%!!! And I've been offered 14%, which is why I'm having a trauma about getting one or going for a deal on a Scout.... despite the sh!tty engines

**VRStu** · 24-10-2007, 07:21

If they get 14% then I would think that is all of the front end margin and most of the back end so probably a reg bonus or a dealer in need of a target.

Skoda work in quarters and a new one has recently started so dealers might not be desperate just yet.

markmuddimer · 24-10-2007, 17:18

Maybe I need to wait a little then? Made a couple of enquiries today but no-one got back to me. Maybe christmas might be another story?

Ciderspace · 24-10-2007, 17:27

Be wary of buyacar/drive the deal. When I enquired, although they would match the free upgrade offer from Skoda, the car would be pre-registered, ie shown as 1 previous owner. Something didn't sit right with me about this...

I mentioned these companies to my dealer and his response was (though I know he was bound to say this!) he explained that Skoda themselves had tried to place an order for a car as a test and ended up losing their deposit money of £500. Quite likely all dealer BS but.... Up to you in the end.

My local dealer offered a £1500 disocunt off new without any haggling...which included all the FOC upgrades.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do...

Cheers

markmuddimer · 24-10-2007, 17:35

Thanks for that cider, maybe I should just get down to farmers in Leicester (my local dealer) and find out what they can do for me. After all I’ve not even driven the petrol vRS yet, only the tdi vRS that I was taken with but held back in the summer when my dad passed away. My little boy is really taken with the race blue and I don’t want to disappoint him too (still amazed by the motorpoint deal!)
Oh well will keep looking tomorrow...

Ciderspace · 24-10-2007, 17:47

Just seen this after replying on the other post! No worries. Get down there and haggle!!

HarryH · 24-10-2007, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Buy a Car, Deals on New Cars, drivethedeal.com, New Car Discount, Car Deal Online do the Octavia vRS with the extras pack for £15764... UK car, you collect from and pay the supplying dealer.

Got to be worth a look.

My soon to arrive (week after next) vRS was ordered through DrivetheDeal (been fantastic thus far) and price included delivery.

cheezemonkhai · 24-10-2007, 19:18

Drive the deal will supply you a new car not a pre-reg with the option pack as they are new builds from a dealer.

No idea why they told you that, but that is a rumour that a lot of dealers have tried on with me, but DTD proved were not true.

markmuddimer · 24-10-2007, 19:32

I can understand why they might be upset with all the discount. Its all fair in love and business tho!

FocusZtec · 24-10-2007, 20:27

I had a dealer explain to me how it worked and iirc it was 7-8% straight and then some bonus's they get from Skoda and some sort of a dealership award for hitting monthly figures. Everything all in came to 15% so I set my target at 16% plus a free tank of 98ron

The haggling is always the best bit of buying a car imo!

Lee

markmuddimer · 24-10-2007, 21:07

sounds like I need you in my corner when it comes to the haggling! maybe we ought to have a thread for the best dealer octy vRS prices negotiated by briskonians!

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Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,529 Thanks: 675 Thanked 422 Times in 302 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Plus there are %bonuses too, e.g. if they sell 5 cars they might get an extra 1%, 20 cars an extra 5%, hence sometimes a really stonking deal can be had, as one extra sale could lead to a massive extra bonus. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

23-10-2007, 20:17	#6
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Hi Tom, I've just started a post on best discounts for vRS Octavia. I need to find a dealer looking for that magic deal with the extra discount! I noticed the following deal on buyacar.co.uk: Summary Price Skoda Octavia 2.0T FSI vRS 5dr Hatchback £ 15,751 Metallic - Race blue £350 17" Zenith alloy wheels £0 Climatic air conditioning with automatic regulation £0 Maxidot £120 Cruise control £180 12 months road fund license (tax) £0 Driven delivery within England and Wales - free Transporter delivery within England and Wales - £280.00 Driven delivery to Scotland - £180.00 Transporter delivery to Scotland - £400.00 Driven/Ferry delivery to Belfast - £180.00 Collection from Buyacar London office - free help £0 Full Skoda warranty New UK Skoda dealer supplied Part exchange welcome Finance options available Total buyacar on the road (OTR) price £16401 What do you think to that?

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VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,760 Thanks: 142 Thanked 987 Times in 884 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Skoda have a current offer which gives free equipment upgrades - 18" wheels Jumbo Box/Armrest Dual Zone Aircon Rear Electric Windows Those should be included in a car which is sourced from a UK dealer, albeit by a broker. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

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dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,014 Thanks: 48 Thanked 164 Times in 149 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Is the free 18" alloy/rear leccy window/dual zone climatronic/jumbo box freebie not included? Well worth getting for the vRS. Free vRS upgrades EDIT: Beaten to it __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

23-10-2007, 20:28	#9
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? I would like those free options! Especiallt the 18 inch rims!

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markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? sloppy typing forgive me!

23-10-2007, 20:33	#11
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,014 Thanks: 48 Thanked 164 Times in 149 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? You would be wise to have those goodies on the car. Would be helpful when it eventually comes to selling the old girl. Besides, the jumbo box and 2zone make a massive difference to the interior. __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

23-10-2007, 21:10	#12
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,529 Thanks: 675 Thanked 422 Times in 302 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Buy a Car, Deals on New Cars, drivethedeal.com, New Car Discount, Car Deal Online do the Octavia vRS with the extras pack for £15764... UK car, you collect from and pay the supplying dealer. Got to be worth a look. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

23-10-2007, 21:18	#13
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? That sounds good Tom, I'll look into that thanks.

23-10-2007, 21:54	#14
fireblade Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 47 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? y dont u look at motorpoint website, octavia vrs in silver 18 inch alloys etc etc £14500 approx!!!! wot a bargain.

24-10-2007, 07:21	#16
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,760 Thanks: 142 Thanked 987 Times in 884 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? If they get 14% then I would think that is all of the front end margin and most of the back end so probably a reg bonus or a dealer in need of a target. Skoda work in quarters and a new one has recently started so dealers might not be desperate just yet. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

24-10-2007, 17:18	#17
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Maybe I need to wait a little then? Made a couple of enquiries today but no-one got back to me. Maybe christmas might be another story?

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Ciderspace Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: East London Posts: 192 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Be wary of buyacar/drive the deal. When I enquired, although they would match the free upgrade offer from Skoda, the car would be pre-registered, ie shown as 1 previous owner. Something didn't sit right with me about this... I mentioned these companies to my dealer and his response was (though I know he was bound to say this!) he explained that Skoda themselves had tried to place an order for a car as a test and ended up losing their deposit money of £500. Quite likely all dealer BS but.... Up to you in the end. My local dealer offered a £1500 disocunt off new without any haggling...which included all the FOC upgrades. Good luck with whatever you decide to do... Cheers __________________ Arrived 30/11/07 Race Blue vRS TDi Combi: 18" wheels, dual a/c, jumbo box & electric rear windows, front & rear parking sensors, cruise control, maxidot, sunset glass, auto dimming mirror, rain sensors light assist, SC Bluefin Grin

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markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Thanks for that cider, maybe I should just get down to farmers in Leicester (my local dealer) and find out what they can do for me. After all I’ve not even driven the petrol vRS yet, only the tdi vRS that I was taken with but held back in the summer when my dad passed away. My little boy is really taken with the race blue and I don’t want to disappoint him too (still amazed by the motorpoint deal!) Oh well will keep looking tomorrow...

24-10-2007, 17:47	#20
Ciderspace Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: East London Posts: 192 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Just seen this after replying on the other post! No worries. Get down there and haggle!! __________________ Arrived 30/11/07 Race Blue vRS TDi Combi: 18" wheels, dual a/c, jumbo box & electric rear windows, front & rear parking sensors, cruise control, maxidot, sunset glass, auto dimming mirror, rain sensors light assist, SC Bluefin Grin

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cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,478 Thanks: 106 Thanked 507 Times in 470 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? Drive the deal will supply you a new car not a pre-reg with the option pack as they are new builds from a dealer. No idea why they told you that, but that is a rumour that a lot of dealers have tried on with me, but DTD proved were not true. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

24-10-2007, 19:32	#23
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? I can understand why they might be upset with all the discount. Its all fair in love and business tho!

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FocusZtec Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: North London Posts: 808 Thanks: 25 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? I had a dealer explain to me how it worked and iirc it was 7-8% straight and then some bonus's they get from Skoda and some sort of a dealership award for hitting monthly figures. Everything all in came to 15% so I set my target at 16% plus a free tank of 98ron The haggling is always the best bit of buying a car imo! Lee __________________ Thanks to JKM: REVO STAGE 2+ remap, Evoms CAI, Piper Turbo back Exhaust, Autotech Fuel Pump, Torque Arm Insert, Forge Recirc, Neuspeed Turbo & Intercooler pipes, APR FMIC, Iridium plugs, Koni FSD's, Eibach springs, Eibach F + R anti roll bars. VF short shifter. 345mm Brakes. 280BHP & 330LB/FT - enough room for a proper trip to B&Q and 36mpg on a run!!!

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markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Dealer margin is it 15%? sounds like I need you in my corner when it comes to the haggling! maybe we ought to have a thread for the best dealer octy vRS prices negotiated by briskonians!

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