Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Read

djgritt · 06-06-2007, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

Either way, your insurance company need to battle it out with Skoda...

They're on the case!

Anyone reckon it is worth mentioning the Passat Mount Issues to the Insurance?
In case it does help?

TRIPLE S · 07-06-2007, 15:02

Have heard of a similar mishap a while ago with a Golf GT PDi. Seems the traction control failed to work properly during hard acceleration in damp conditions causing massive wheel tramping which nearly sheared the mount. In this case the dealer and VW turned their back to the failure and claimed poor driving technique was the cause. The ex Golf owner now has a Honda Civic 2.2 i-CTDI!

djgritt · 07-06-2007, 19:44

Well,

The bodyshop called me today, (It is being picked up by them tomorrow), they were after details.

Now, originally they were booked for the dink i had last week, but now the insurance has got the booking changed to focus on the Chassis.

I explained averything i have done on this thread, about both incidents.

They (the workshop and office staff) are finding it extremely hard to believe that my shunt has caused so much apparent damage.

So, they are kinda on-side at the moment... Hopefully they will start to look tomorrow, if not they will start Monday.

djgritt · 13-06-2007, 16:13

I went to the bodyshop today - needed some bits i left in the vRS

It looks a state.

Bumper is off, Headlights out; Looks terrible.

However, the supervisor who has been working with it showed me around, and it seems alright besides its appearance...

He has had a look, been under it, over it etc etc - he cant see any signs of Chassis twisting atall. The Chassis Legs are all straight, Subframe is straight etc etc.

However, they cant do any more with it until the Insurance Technician has a look with him.

Then hopefully the Insurance will get onto Skoda to sort it out. Unless the write it off...

**mannyo** · 13-06-2007, 17:06

They wont write it off, as the car is so new and the cost of a brand new engine is comparitively small compared to the value of the car working. You really need everyone to agree that the incident had nothing to do with the minor bump, especially as initial investigations appear to show this. If they still think the bump has influenced this, the car will be fixed by your insurers but your NCB and future premiums will obviously be affected, hence the need to get the onus shifted back to skoda.

djgritt · 13-06-2007, 18:54

Yeah.
The car is my company car, and my company insures it.
Luckily its not my own insurance!

But, after the Insurance has inspected it ill hopefully have a better idea of what is going on next.

KenONeill · 14-06-2007, 09:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

They wont write it off, as the car is so new and the cost of a brand new engine is comparitively small compared to the value of the car working. You really need everyone to agree that the incident had nothing to do with the minor bump, especially as initial investigations appear to show this. If they still think the bump has influenced this, the car will be fixed by your insurers but your NCB and future premiums will obviously be affected, hence the need to get the onus shifted back to skoda.

Well, up to a point anyway; there are some insurers who would automatically replace a "new" (up to 1 year old) vehicle which had sustained more than a certain percentage of its value in damage.

runboy · 14-06-2007, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenONeill

Well, up to a point anyway; there are some insurers who would automatically replace a "new" (up to 1 year old) vehicle which had sustained more than a certain percentage of its value in damage.

My Norwich Union Direct motor policy says that if the car was bought under a PCP and a couple of other ways, they will not honour the "we will pay for a new car if your new car is written off in first year of ownership" hence I had to take out GAP.

Welshbigman · 15-06-2007, 21:01

even tho you current car might be a company car consider if you opted out or left and had to buy your own car. you'd need a letter from your company proving your ncb then

djgritt · 19-06-2007, 15:37

Still nothing...

**mannyo** · 19-06-2007, 15:39

Who has the car now?

djgritt · 21-06-2007, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by mannyo

Who has the car now?

Insurance Approved Bodyshop...

cjb · 21-06-2007, 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by djgritt

Insurance Approved Bodyshop...

There's a phrase to fill youwith fear.

djgritt · 21-06-2007, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjb

There's a phrase to fill youwith fear.

They had a quick look - to them nothing seems bent or twisted

They are going to/have put it on a 4-Wheel Alignment Jobbie to have a better look

Also they are getting the Insurance Engineer/Inspector down too...

runboy · 22-06-2007, 23:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjb

There's a phrase to fill youwith fear.

Agree.

First and only time I let an insurance sourced repairer at my car resulted in one major mess-up.

From then on I only took my cars to the dealership repair shop. Mine all offer free courtesey cars anyway so no issue there - the insurance company harp on about them only offering courtesey cars is wrong (in my case anyway).

djgritt · 23-06-2007, 09:59

Unfortunately i have NO choice but to go through insurance.

Compnay Car.

Plus Skoda are adamant that the chassis is twisted, and wont touch it until my insurance has it assessed by a bodyshop...

little jack · 23-06-2007, 10:25

always something else underlying isn't there. i think the link the way it was worded suggested a skoda fault, yet now it turns out maybe not? hmmn

djgritt · 23-06-2007, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by little jack

always something else underlying isn't there. i think the link the way it was worded suggested a skoda fault, yet now it turns out maybe not? hmmn

eh?

djgritt · 02-08-2007, 23:10

Right, bit of an update.

The car has been assessed, but the damage report has not been sorted correctly, basically they gave a cost of repair report, not a damage assessment.

Anyway, still no sign of what has happened really, Skoda havent admitted anything. Insurance wont do any mechanical repairs. Etc etc.

Currently, my lease company are speaking to Skoda to try to get something sorted; its because no-one wants to pay for these repairs, which are obviously going to be costly!

The bodyshop have said that they believe the chassis is fine, so pressure is being put onto Skoda, will wait for a response.

We are still arguing that if the chassis has twisted, then Skoda have sold me an unsafe car, and that they have build quality issues. If the car really is that damaged, then we will be pushing for Skoda to replace the car FoC, and supply additional options as a matter of apology for fooking us about, and supplying a crappily made piece of kit.

sworrall · 02-08-2007, 23:38

bummer

hope it works itself out mate

magic62 · 02-08-2007, 23:42

Exactly the same thing happened to a german forum user. Also his engine dropped, caused by the left enginemount to break. He got his VRS as an 2nd hand car.
Was on a TFSI though, but exactly the same happened. Car was also no more than 5500 miles old.

For you who understand german:

Skoda Octavia Forum • Thema anzeigen - TFSI - schlägt der Kolben an die Ventiele bei Zahnriemenriss

His car was repaired and payed for from Skoda.

What i am wondering about is the fact that Skoda GB is al lot more difficult to deal with than in Germany. Cases that are clearly a fault on Skodas side are primarely caused by the owner and only if proved otherwise they pay for the expenses. How the hell are they want to keep any costumers if there is no costumer freindlyness??

djgritt · 03-08-2007, 00:21

Thanks!

Dont suppose you would object to me quoting that and using the link in my case?

magic62 · 03-08-2007, 00:50

Nope and if you wish to ask any questions, just ask. I can always try to ask the member who had the problem.

djgritt · 03-08-2007, 07:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by magic62

Nope and if you wish to ask any questions, just ask. I can always try to ask the member who had the problem.

Cheers, i

07-06-2007, 15:02	#27
TRIPLE S Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Have heard of a similar mishap a while ago with a Golf GT PDi. Seems the traction control failed to work properly during hard acceleration in damp conditions causing massive wheel tramping which nearly sheared the mount. In this case the dealer and VW turned their back to the failure and claimed poor driving technique was the cause. The ex Golf owner now has a Honda Civic 2.2 i-CTDI!

07-06-2007, 19:44	#28
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Well, The bodyshop called me today, (It is being picked up by them tomorrow), they were after details. Now, originally they were booked for the dink i had last week, but now the insurance has got the booking changed to focus on the Chassis. I explained averything i have done on this thread, about both incidents. They (the workshop and office staff) are finding it extremely hard to believe that my shunt has caused so much apparent damage. So, they are kinda on-side at the moment... Hopefully they will start to look tomorrow, if not they will start Monday. __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

13-06-2007, 16:13	#29
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea I went to the bodyshop today - needed some bits i left in the vRS It looks a state. Bumper is off, Headlights out; Looks terrible. However, the supervisor who has been working with it showed me around, and it seems alright besides its appearance... He has had a look, been under it, over it etc etc - he cant see any signs of Chassis twisting atall. The Chassis Legs are all straight, Subframe is straight etc etc. However, they cant do any more with it until the Insurance Technician has a look with him. Then hopefully the Insurance will get onto Skoda to sort it out. Unless the write it off... __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

13-06-2007, 17:06	#30
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,442 Thanks: 56 Thanked 357 Times in 329 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea They wont write it off, as the car is so new and the cost of a brand new engine is comparitively small compared to the value of the car working. You really need everyone to agree that the incident had nothing to do with the minor bump, especially as initial investigations appear to show this. If they still think the bump has influenced this, the car will be fixed by your insurers but your NCB and future premiums will obviously be affected, hence the need to get the onus shifted back to skoda. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

13-06-2007, 18:54	#31
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Yeah. The car is my company car, and my company insures it. Luckily its not my own insurance! But, after the Insurance has inspected it ill hopefully have a better idea of what is going on next. __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

15-06-2007, 21:01	#34
Welshbigman Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Wales Posts: 116 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea even tho you current car might be a company car consider if you opted out or left and had to buy your own car. you'd need a letter from your company proving your ncb then

19-06-2007, 15:37	#35
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Still nothing... __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

19-06-2007, 15:39	#36
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,442 Thanks: 56 Thanked 357 Times in 329 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Who has the car now? __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

23-06-2007, 09:59	#41
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Unfortunately i have NO choice but to go through insurance. Compnay Car. Plus Skoda are adamant that the chassis is twisted, and wont touch it until my insurance has it assessed by a bodyshop... __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

23-06-2007, 10:25	#42
little jack Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 83 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea always something else underlying isn't there. i think the link the way it was worded suggested a skoda fault, yet now it turns out maybe not? hmmn

02-08-2007, 23:10	#44
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Right, bit of an update. The car has been assessed, but the damage report has not been sorted correctly, basically they gave a cost of repair report, not a damage assessment. Anyway, still no sign of what has happened really, Skoda havent admitted anything. Insurance wont do any mechanical repairs. Etc etc. Currently, my lease company are speaking to Skoda to try to get something sorted; its because no-one wants to pay for these repairs, which are obviously going to be costly! The bodyshop have said that they believe the chassis is fine, so pressure is being put onto Skoda, will wait for a response. We are still arguing that if the chassis has twisted, then Skoda have sold me an unsafe car, and that they have build quality issues. If the car really is that damaged, then we will be pushing for Skoda to replace the car FoC, and supply additional options as a matter of apology for fooking us about, and supplying a crappily made piece of kit. __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

02-08-2007, 23:38	#45
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 705 Thanks: 118 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea bummer hope it works itself out mate __________________ ON ORDER: OctyII VRS CR 2.0Tdi Estate - Race Blue - upgrade pack - Maxidot - Sunset - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtains - MFD2 & Bluetooth Kit from the old one Skoda Octavia II 2.0 tdi L&K Estate - Xenons - Sunroof - Sensors - 17" Pegasus - Island Green - MFD2 - OEM Bluetooth Kit - Colour coded grille flickr Photos

02-08-2007, 23:42	#46
magic62 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leverkusen Germany Posts: 134 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Exactly the same thing happened to a german forum user. Also his engine dropped, caused by the left enginemount to break. He got his VRS as an 2nd hand car. Was on a TFSI though, but exactly the same happened. Car was also no more than 5500 miles old. For you who understand german: Skoda Octavia Forum • Thema anzeigen - TFSI - schlägt der Kolben an die Ventiele bei Zahnriemenriss His car was repaired and payed for from Skoda. What i am wondering about is the fact that Skoda GB is al lot more difficult to deal with than in Germany. Cases that are clearly a fault on Skodas side are primarely caused by the owner and only if proved otherwise they pay for the expenses. How the hell are they want to keep any costumers if there is no costumer freindlyness?? __________________ Silver 2006 vRS-TDI estate, mostly std, just a couple of mild changes. Roofrack, alarm, heated rearseats, VW RNS 510 + CD-changer, sunsafe + Climair sonniboys, cruisecontrol, , HillHold, interior superflux leds, original SonyEricsson FSE with K810i, BBS RD394 16" winterwheels, polished BBS VZ033 (CH) 18" summerwheels.

03-08-2007, 00:21	#47
djgritt Weak Effort. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Blandford, Dorset Posts: 596 Thanks: 26 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Thanks! Dont suppose you would object to me quoting that and using the link in my case? __________________ MY07 Octavia vRS TDi Hatch - Black Magic - Replacement Engine, Replacement Gearbox, Replacement DPF - Colour Coded Grille Surround, De-Tangoed F&R Indicators, 'vRS' Etched Tax Disc Holder, 2nd Rear Fog, Anti-Hijack, Leaving/Coming Home Lights, Michelin PS2 Tyres - RR Proven 177.9 bhp / 289 lb/ft www.vauxhallownersnetwork.co.uk - South Central Regional Organiser www.freewebs.com/holebrookfarmlivery/index.htm - Horse Livery & Grazing in North Dorset

03-08-2007, 00:50	#48
magic62 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leverkusen Germany Posts: 134 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Major Fault - Engine Destruction - Possibly Manufacturing/Part Fault - Please Rea Nope and if you wish to ask any questions, just ask. I can always try to ask the member who had the problem. __________________ Silver 2006 vRS-TDI estate, mostly std, just a couple of mild changes. Roofrack, alarm, heated rearseats, VW RNS 510 + CD-changer, sunsafe + Climair sonniboys, cruisecontrol, , HillHold, interior superflux leds, original SonyEricsson FSE with K810i, BBS RD394 16" winterwheels, polished BBS VZ033 (CH) 18" summerwheels.