Must have DSG!!!!

rikodars · 27-12-2006, 12:35

I currently have a Fabia Vrs which I realy like.. But I have an urge for a DSG box with a diesel engine.. It will have to be an Octy but which one for the performance??? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. R

ScoobyChris · 28-12-2006, 01:26

IIRC, the DSG is only available on the 105bhp and 140bhp diesels so out of those two for performance it would have to be the 140bhp! I believe the other VAG manufacturers offer it in other diesels though and also offer it with flappy paddles

Chris

Babs · 28-12-2006, 12:44

why do you want flappy paddles?

ScoobyChris · 28-12-2006, 13:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babs

why do you want flappy paddles?

Why do you not want flappy paddles?

Chris

auroan · 28-12-2006, 13:13

Why is this thread in the Mk1 Octy which never had DSG ?

**roo** · 28-12-2006, 14:58

why does it matter? it's still an octavia.

moved for simplicitys sake.

vimto2000 · 28-12-2006, 15:04

I test driven some of the other VAG vehicles with DSG flappy paddles...and they are brilliant! Was very tempted to go for the DSG in the octavia...but it didn't have the flappy paddles...which was a big let down to me...and the cost of a repair bill if they every went wrong outside the warranty!

Oh and the extra initial cost of it! £1.5k

gilesk · 28-12-2006, 15:13

I have the 140 with DSG, its a great car, the flappy paddles might make it easier but to be honest I only use the manual setting when I am bored, Drive and Sport are fine for normal driving. The amount of pressure you have to use to move the gear stick is minimal. I am a little worried about the costs of it going wrong outside of the warranty, anyone experience this? its a bargain for 1.5k I think it is more in Audi's and VW's.

vimto2000 · 28-12-2006, 15:22

Yeah personally, i've never been a fan of automatics. However the DSG box is the only reason I considered it, and it was a brilliant drive.

But I'm buying my car for the long term...so the repair cost does have an effect on my decision. If I was planning to keep the car for 3 years, then I would have been tempted more.

Oh and the other thing that put me off was when I took the car for a test drive, I mistook the brake pedal for a clutch when needing to change gear! I think it scared the sh!te of the salesperson

. Not the fault of the car, but more of what i'm used to. And as I tend to be jumping in and out of different cars mainly manual. It was a case of actively thinking that, that car doens't have a clutch

Babs · 28-12-2006, 18:02

I've driven all sorts of auto/semi-auto cars and I would much prefer having a third pedal and a H-pattern shifter

cjb · 28-12-2006, 18:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by vimto2000

Oh and the other thing that put me off was when I took the car for a test drive, I mistook the brake pedal for a clutch when needing to change gear!

That's a dangerif you've never driven an auto before. The best thing is to try to forget your left foot. I find it fairly easy, as I've driven both since learning nearly 20 years ago.

ScoobyChris · 28-12-2006, 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjb

That's a dangerif you've never driven an auto before. The best thing is to try to forget your left foot. I find it fairly easy, as I've driven both since learning nearly 20 years ago.

Forget it? Nah you want to use it for left foot braking (except in a VAG car!

)

Chris

slider · 28-12-2006, 20:42

Never EVER thought i would drive an auto, until I was offered a test in a DSG - I bought one there and then and have absolutley no regrets, it's a fantastic piece of kit.

If you want performance, best go for the 2.0tdi. 1.9 does my job just fine, the only issue is when carrying a full load, when it tends to drop gears a bit to early for my liking - but I simply knock it in manual mode.

nogoingback · 31-12-2006, 19:03

I have had my 1.9 TDI Ambience for 6 weeks.

From day one I have regretted not getting the DSG. I test drove both manual and DSG, deciding the the latter was not worth the extra money but I was wrong in every day driving, often in heavy and crawling traffic around South London.

I am seriously considering chopping it in for a 2.0 TDi DSG in March 07. What do you reckon that would cost me?

JohnMorr · 31-12-2006, 19:54

Go for the DSG - it's mature technology by now and shouldn't go wrong. After all, it's basically just a double-ended manual box which shifts itself automatically. The 1.9 TDi is perfectly adequate, but the 2.0 TDi is a more modern and smoother 4-valve unit - even better with some soundproofing.

Our L&K 2.0 TDi estate gets 41 mpg in a mixture of urban and (fast) long-distance driving - not as frugal as some, but I'm perfectly happy...

freemansteve · 01-01-2007, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMorr

Go for the DSG - it's mature technology by now and shouldn't go wrong. After all, it's basically just a double-ended manual box which shifts itself automatically.

Nobody would expect the box itelf to go wrong as all gb's are well proven in terms of mechanical design and materials.

What would be interesting is to see the manufacturer's reliability or warranty statistics on the electronic controllers and electro-mechanical actuaters, and maybe the life expectancy and replacement costs of the 2 clutches....

Steve

Labtech · 01-01-2007, 23:56

Get a 2.0 TDi - had mine for 3 months now and don't think I'd get a manual again. Must admit when I first got it I thought I would use the 'manual' setting all the time, but I just shove it in drive and let it do its own thing!

Fred_Bristol · 02-01-2007, 22:39

I've had my 2.0 L DSG for a few weeks now and have no regrets so far. Handles crawling in stop-start traffic brilliantly, loves winding, hilly, B roads, and cruises at 70 mph on motorways effortlessly. The mpg is in the mid to high 40s for my mixed travel over the Christmas period, including a fair few short journeys but not a lot of rush-hour commuting.

I previously had a Ford Fusion AMT and we still have a Daihatsu Sirion automatic, and neither of these can match the Octavia DSG for ease of driving or smoothnes of change.

Highly recommended - even if I did set out to buy a 1.9 DSG (well, thats what it was advertised as, but that's another story). The test drives I had done previously were on an Octavia 1.9 DSG and a 1.9 Golf Plus DSG. When I test drove this car I had been told it was a 1.9 and just thought it was a smoother, more responsive, example than my previous drives. (OK so I didn't know the significance of the red I then)

Go for the 2.0 if you can, my insurance company rates it group 7 like the 1.9, so the insurance hit wasn't significant (but I'm not young).

And happy new year everybody!

bahnstormer vrs · 15-01-2007, 10:08

Does anyone know if the DSG g'box will be offered in the vRS TDI soon?

Audi and VW have the DSG available with the PD TDI 170 engines (and also the 2.0 TFSI). I really want to buy an Octavia vRS TDI and to be able to get it with the DSG box will be the icing on the cake; the only alternative would be a 2.0TDI Sport with DSG but the 170bhp engine is so good I don't want to drop back to the 140bhp in the Sport.

LesPaul · 15-01-2007, 11:44

My local dealer has a Octy Sport 2.0 tdi with DSG and metalic paint in the showroom, looks really nice but there is a vRS tdi also in the showroom for only £500 more, I know where my money would go

Octy vRS Estate TDI with DSG in Race Blue would be perfect, come on Skoda put the DSG in the vRS

Darren

27-12-2006, 12:35	#1
rikodars Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Hants Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Must have DSG!!!! I currently have a Fabia Vrs which I realy like.. But I have an urge for a DSG box with a diesel engine.. It will have to be an Octy but which one for the performance??? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. R __________________ Leave me alone. I am an old man with a Skoda

28-12-2006, 01:26	#2
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,194 Thanks: 15 Thanked 335 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! IIRC, the DSG is only available on the 105bhp and 140bhp diesels so out of those two for performance it would have to be the 140bhp! I believe the other VAG manufacturers offer it in other diesels though and also offer it with flappy paddles Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

28-12-2006, 12:44	#3
Babs Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newport/Preston Posts: 4,164 Thanks: 215 Thanked 138 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! why do you want flappy paddles? __________________ - Andrew Octavia vRS For Sale / Bosch Rotary Polisher For Sale

28-12-2006, 13:13	#5
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,840 Thanks: 205 Thanked 108 Times in 95 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Why is this thread in the Mk1 Octy which never had DSG ? __________________ '05 Audi A4 2.0 Tdi SE - no mods until the warrenty expires '00 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro - Gone.... (bleeding money pit ) Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

28-12-2006, 15:04	#7
vimto2000 Skoda-da-da-da Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, Northampton Posts: 447 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! I test driven some of the other VAG vehicles with DSG flappy paddles...and they are brilliant! Was very tempted to go for the DSG in the octavia...but it didn't have the flappy paddles...which was a big let down to me...and the cost of a repair bill if they every went wrong outside the warranty! Oh and the extra initial cost of it! £1.5k

28-12-2006, 15:13	#8
gilesk MadridBriskodia Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,039 Thanks: 16 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! I have the 140 with DSG, its a great car, the flappy paddles might make it easier but to be honest I only use the manual setting when I am bored, Drive and Sport are fine for normal driving. The amount of pressure you have to use to move the gear stick is minimal. I am a little worried about the costs of it going wrong outside of the warranty, anyone experience this? its a bargain for 1.5k I think it is more in Audi's and VW's. __________________ who'd have thought it eh?

28-12-2006, 15:22	#9
vimto2000 Skoda-da-da-da Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Manchester, Northampton Posts: 447 Thanks: 12 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Yeah personally, i've never been a fan of automatics. However the DSG box is the only reason I considered it, and it was a brilliant drive. But I'm buying my car for the long term...so the repair cost does have an effect on my decision. If I was planning to keep the car for 3 years, then I would have been tempted more. Oh and the other thing that put me off was when I took the car for a test drive, I mistook the brake pedal for a clutch when needing to change gear! I think it scared the sh!te of the salesperson . Not the fault of the car, but more of what i'm used to. And as I tend to be jumping in and out of different cars mainly manual. It was a case of actively thinking that, that car doens't have a clutch

28-12-2006, 18:02	#10
Babs Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newport/Preston Posts: 4,164 Thanks: 215 Thanked 138 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! I've driven all sorts of auto/semi-auto cars and I would much prefer having a third pedal and a H-pattern shifter __________________ - Andrew Octavia vRS For Sale / Bosch Rotary Polisher For Sale

28-12-2006, 20:42	#13
slider Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 682 Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Never EVER thought i would drive an auto, until I was offered a test in a DSG - I bought one there and then and have absolutley no regrets, it's a fantastic piece of kit. If you want performance, best go for the 2.0tdi. 1.9 does my job just fine, the only issue is when carrying a full load, when it tends to drop gears a bit to early for my liking - but I simply knock it in manual mode. __________________ The man with no sig thingy BMW 118d M Sport Past cars - OctaviaII 1.9TDI DSG, OctaviaI 1.9 TDi, Focus TD Est, Rover 418 TD, Montego TD, Cavalier D, Astra 1.3, Escort Mexico Mk1 (still to be beaten for fun), Viva 1.3, Simca 1100

31-12-2006, 19:03	#14
nogoingback Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 10 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! I have had my 1.9 TDI Ambience for 6 weeks. From day one I have regretted not getting the DSG. I test drove both manual and DSG, deciding the the latter was not worth the extra money but I was wrong in every day driving, often in heavy and crawling traffic around South London. I am seriously considering chopping it in for a 2.0 TDi DSG in March 07. What do you reckon that would cost me?

31-12-2006, 19:54	#15
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Go for the DSG - it's mature technology by now and shouldn't go wrong. After all, it's basically just a double-ended manual box which shifts itself automatically. The 1.9 TDi is perfectly adequate, but the 2.0 TDi is a more modern and smoother 4-valve unit - even better with some soundproofing. Our L&K 2.0 TDi estate gets 41 mpg in a mixture of urban and (fast) long-distance driving - not as frugal as some, but I'm perfectly happy...

01-01-2007, 23:56	#17
Labtech Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dundee Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Get a 2.0 TDi - had mine for 3 months now and don't think I'd get a manual again. Must admit when I first got it I thought I would use the 'manual' setting all the time, but I just shove it in drive and let it do its own thing!

02-01-2007, 22:39	#18
Fred_Bristol Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Gloucestershire Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! I've had my 2.0 L DSG for a few weeks now and have no regrets so far. Handles crawling in stop-start traffic brilliantly, loves winding, hilly, B roads, and cruises at 70 mph on motorways effortlessly. The mpg is in the mid to high 40s for my mixed travel over the Christmas period, including a fair few short journeys but not a lot of rush-hour commuting. I previously had a Ford Fusion AMT and we still have a Daihatsu Sirion automatic, and neither of these can match the Octavia DSG for ease of driving or smoothnes of change. Highly recommended - even if I did set out to buy a 1.9 DSG (well, thats what it was advertised as, but that's another story). The test drives I had done previously were on an Octavia 1.9 DSG and a 1.9 Golf Plus DSG. When I test drove this car I had been told it was a 1.9 and just thought it was a smoother, more responsive, example than my previous drives. (OK so I didn't know the significance of the red I then) Go for the 2.0 if you can, my insurance company rates it group 7 like the 1.9, so the insurance hit wasn't significant (but I'm not young). And happy new year everybody!

15-01-2007, 10:08	#19
bahnstormer vrs Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Herts Posts: 2,649 Thanks: 44 Thanked 153 Times in 138 Posts	Re: Must have DSG!!!! Does anyone know if the DSG g'box will be offered in the vRS TDI soon? Audi and VW have the DSG available with the PD TDI 170 engines (and also the 2.0 TFSI). I really want to buy an Octavia vRS TDI and to be able to get it with the DSG box will be the icing on the cake; the only alternative would be a 2.0TDI Sport with DSG but the 170bhp engine is so good I don't want to drop back to the 140bhp in the Sport.

15-01-2007, 11:44	#20
LesPaul Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 441 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Must have DSG!!!! My local dealer has a Octy Sport 2.0 tdi with DSG and metalic paint in the showroom, looks really nice but there is a vRS tdi also in the showroom for only £500 more, I know where my money would go Octy vRS Estate TDI with DSG in Race Blue would be perfect, come on Skoda put the DSG in the vRS Darren

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