New engines for Octavia

OctaviaT81 · 04-02-2008, 20:29

This article http://www.autorevue.cz/Bleskovky/Sk...9/default.aspx I think says from week 22 the 2.0TDI CR 170BHP engine will replace the older 2.0 diesel in the RS.

And from weeks 40 and 45 the 1.4TSI will replace the 1.6FSI and 1.6 CR-TDI will replace the 1.9 TDI.

gadgetman · 04-02-2008, 22:55

Less power for the VRS ????????????

auroan · 04-02-2008, 23:01

? eh how. 170 CR TDI replaces 170 PD TDI ?

Lanstrom · 04-02-2008, 23:22

Hi everyone. First post

I ordered an brand new Octavia 1.6FSI Elegance yesterday (Sunday) in Cappuccino beige for delivery on 1st March. Today I get home from work and there is a message on my answerphone from the dealer telling me that he can not get hold of one in that colour. I phoned him back and he has said that Skoda wont be having any more in that colour.

I thought this sounded strange as its the very colour they use on the front of their latest brochure so they cant be discontinuing it, I also find it strange that Volkswagen had discontiued the 1.6 too (I was looking at the Golf Plus) so this thread clears up what I was already suspecting .... the dealers are trying to get rid of any 1.6FSIs that Skoda have in stock.

What is the HP rating for the 1.4TSI ? Should I cancel my order and wait or try and haggle a better deal on whatever colours they have left (I already got FREE metallic paint, floor mats & front mud flaps thrown in).

auroan · 04-02-2008, 23:24

The 1.4 comes in several power guises. I think the one in the Octy will be around 120bhp though.

gadgetman · 04-02-2008, 23:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by auroan

? eh how. 170 CR TDI replaces 170 PD TDI ?

Post says 170bhp will replace current (200bhp) VRS lump

30 less horses for the VRS crowd

markmuddimer · 04-02-2008, 23:27

I would be inclined to twist your dealers arm a little more if this is the case!

Makefish · 04-02-2008, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Post says 170bhp will replace current (200bhp) VRS lump

30 less horses for the VRS crowd

erm, that's the petrol lump which is very much alive and continuing

and post does'nt say that anyway, it refers to the 2.0 TDI which is currently 170bhp!

auroan · 04-02-2008, 23:30

"will replace the older 2.0 diesel in the RS."

dstev2000 · 04-02-2008, 23:33

The engine changes will only be a positive thing, smaller turbocharged petrols will offer better fuel consumption, lower emissions and better performance. Next generation diesels will be cleaner, quieter and smoother.

2.0FSI: 150BHP, replaced with 1.8TSI: 160BHP, better MPG and lower emissions.

1.6FSI: 115BHP, replaced with 1.4TSI: circa 120BHP and again better MPG and lower emissions.

1.9TDI: 105BHP, replaced with 1.6 CR-TDI: circa 100 and 130BHP and surprise surprise, lower emissions, quiter, less smokey and generally cleaner in the case of the derv engines.

The CR 170 TDI will be superior to the PD engine in many ways. Probably a better power/torque curve, more reliable DPF system and quiter when cold and at idle. Probably 3-5mpg better too.

The only negative thing with the turbo petrols might be when it comes to servicing but I can't confirm that.

Progress is a good thing

**VRStu** · 04-02-2008, 23:43

I'd be inclined to hold out for the newer engine and the colour you want if I were you.

bosnjo · 05-02-2008, 10:41

And what happens with 2.0 TDi 140bhp???????
Is there replacement for that one??????
I've seen new model Audi A4 with 2.0 TDi 143bhp common rail. Is that the engine SKoda will have????
I have 2.0 TDi 140bhp and was looking forward to replace it with more or less the same power but not lower like 1.9 TDi 130bhp.

Aspman · 05-02-2008, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by bosnjo

And what happens with 2.0 TDi 140bhp???????
Is there replacement for that one??????
I've seen new model Audi A4 with 2.0 TDi 143bhp common rail. Is that the engine SKoda will have????
I have 2.0 TDi 140bhp and was looking forward to replace it with more or less the same power but not lower like 1.9 TDi 130bhp.

That'll probably be the 1.6 TD in the 130hp variant.

bosnjo · 05-02-2008, 12:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aspman

That'll probably be the 1.6 TD in the 130hp variant.

Oh no...
I don't want that one and wouldn't have enough money for VRS

auroan · 05-02-2008, 12:24

Based on the fact that all replacement engine lines seem to be the same or more powerful.... you may end up with a CR 2.0 TDI down tuned to 140bhp.

bosnjo · 05-02-2008, 12:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by auroan

Based on the fact that all replacement engine lines seem to be the same or more powerful.... you may end up with a CR 2.0 TDI down tuned to 140bhp.

I hope so.
I was wondering, if VW group (VAG) uses the same engines in low and middle models, would new A4 Audi's engine, 2.0TDi 143bhp CR be the one for Octy too?
Or, is it just some kind of transition engine? It is in the dealer's showroom already. Went to see it the other day (I'm talking about new A4).

cheezemonkhai · 05-02-2008, 14:00

I would think the 1.6 CRTDI 130 will replace the PD140 also.

Why, because this will lower the cars overall CO2 emissions and so tick another EU target tick box.

I doubt you will notice the missing few horses as IIRC it will probably make up for it in other ways.

That plus lower emissions, lower tax, less vibration (hopefully save some DMF's)

Might even find that the "Elegance TDI" gets the 2.0 CRTDI 170 just like the old elegance got the TDI110 over the TDI90 in the lesser models.

Staedtler · 05-02-2008, 14:49

No mention of the new 2.0Tdi twin turbo then?? Surely a must have engine for the vRS!

cheezemonkhai · 05-02-2008, 17:29

Save that engine for Audi for a while me thinks.

Lady Elanore · 05-02-2008, 17:34

While all this 170bhp malarkey sounds interesting in the diesel variant, the one to get is the new 200bhp TDi 2.0 that’s going into the Audi TT. Now that would be FUN!

cheezemonkhai · 05-02-2008, 18:08

You've got 204 and RWD.. what are you complaining about?

apd007 · 05-02-2008, 18:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheezemonkhai

You've got 204 and RWD.. what are you complaining about?

It's a BMW

Marcus100 · 05-02-2008, 20:57

Well i'm a bit ticked there is gonna be a new engine in the vRS when I specifically asked if there were any updates coming when I got mine last September.

Something to look forward to in 2010 I suppose when its time to change.

crocks · 05-02-2008, 21:49

would this affect cars on order but not built yet? mine is on order, due to be built in april for delivery in may this year...

Lanstrom · 06-02-2008, 10:24

I have been "assured" by my Skoda dealer that the new engines will only be used in the Fabia and that the Octavias engines will remain until 2010 !

Hands up those who think his story should be filed under FICTION ??

Also ... I have been in contact with other dealers who confirm that the 1.6 FSI is only available in SATIN GREY for anywhere near or on the 1st I have now changed the order to a 1.9 TDI PD ... is this engine pretty quiet ? I have never owned a diesel before.

04-02-2008, 20:29	#1
OctaviaT81 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cornwall Posts: 964 Members Car: Octavia SLXI 1.8T Thanks: 6 Thanked 29 Times in 18 Posts	New engines for Octavia This article http://www.autorevue.cz/Bleskovky/Sk...9/default.aspx I think says from week 22 the 2.0TDI CR 170BHP engine will replace the older 2.0 diesel in the RS. And from weeks 40 and 45 the 1.4TSI will replace the 1.6FSI and 1.6 CR-TDI will replace the 1.9 TDI. __________________ Skoda Motorsport WRC news, photos & more!

04-02-2008, 22:55	#2
gadgetman Go Gadget Octy! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,387 Members Car: Thanks: 219 Thanked 117 Times in 110 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia Less power for the VRS ???????????? __________________ Lick the window of life Why not join the Briskoda Last.fm group?

04-02-2008, 23:01	#3
auroan Briskoda Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,873 Members Car: AUDI A4 B7 2.0 TDI SE Saloon Thanks: 206 Thanked 112 Times in 98 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia ? eh how. 170 CR TDI replaces 170 PD TDI ? __________________ '05 Audi A4 2.0 Tdi SE - no mods until the warrenty expires ... yeah right... interior light pack, 3 spoke mfsw. '00 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro - Gone.... (bleeding money pit ) Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

04-02-2008, 23:22	#4
Lanstrom Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 17 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New engines for Octavia Hi everyone. First post I ordered an brand new Octavia 1.6FSI Elegance yesterday (Sunday) in Cappuccino beige for delivery on 1st March. Today I get home from work and there is a message on my answerphone from the dealer telling me that he can not get hold of one in that colour. I phoned him back and he has said that Skoda wont be having any more in that colour. I thought this sounded strange as its the very colour they use on the front of their latest brochure so they cant be discontinuing it, I also find it strange that Volkswagen had discontiued the 1.6 too (I was looking at the Golf Plus) so this thread clears up what I was already suspecting .... the dealers are trying to get rid of any 1.6FSIs that Skoda have in stock. What is the HP rating for the 1.4TSI ? Should I cancel my order and wait or try and haggle a better deal on whatever colours they have left (I already got FREE metallic paint, floor mats & front mud flaps thrown in).

04-02-2008, 23:24	#5
auroan Briskoda Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,873 Members Car: AUDI A4 B7 2.0 TDI SE Saloon Thanks: 206 Thanked 112 Times in 98 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia The 1.4 comes in several power guises. I think the one in the Octy will be around 120bhp though. __________________ '05 Audi A4 2.0 Tdi SE - no mods until the warrenty expires ... yeah right... interior light pack, 3 spoke mfsw. '00 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro - Gone.... (bleeding money pit ) Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

04-02-2008, 23:27	#7
markmuddimer Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Leicester Posts: 101 Members Car: Octy II vRS Thanks: 7 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia I would be inclined to twist your dealers arm a little more if this is the case!

04-02-2008, 23:30	#9
auroan Briskoda Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,873 Members Car: AUDI A4 B7 2.0 TDI SE Saloon Thanks: 206 Thanked 112 Times in 98 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia "will replace the older 2.0 diesel in the RS." __________________ '05 Audi A4 2.0 Tdi SE - no mods until the warrenty expires ... yeah right... interior light pack, 3 spoke mfsw. '00 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro - Gone.... (bleeding money pit ) Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

04-02-2008, 23:33	#10
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,036 Members Car: 2 Octavia II's, an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 48 Thanked 168 Times in 153 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia The engine changes will only be a positive thing, smaller turbocharged petrols will offer better fuel consumption, lower emissions and better performance. Next generation diesels will be cleaner, quieter and smoother. 2.0FSI: 150BHP, replaced with 1.8TSI: 160BHP, better MPG and lower emissions. 1.6FSI: 115BHP, replaced with 1.4TSI: circa 120BHP and again better MPG and lower emissions. 1.9TDI: 105BHP, replaced with 1.6 CR-TDI: circa 100 and 130BHP and surprise surprise, lower emissions, quiter, less smokey and generally cleaner in the case of the derv engines. The CR 170 TDI will be superior to the PD engine in many ways. Probably a better power/torque curve, more reliable DPF system and quiter when cold and at idle. Probably 3-5mpg better too. The only negative thing with the turbo petrols might be when it comes to servicing but I can't confirm that. Progress is a good thing __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

04-02-2008, 23:43	#11
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia I'd be inclined to hold out for the newer engine and the colour you want if I were you. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

05-02-2008, 10:41	#12
bosnjo Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Portugal Posts: 596 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Sport 2006 Thanks: 3 Thanked 41 Times in 38 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia And what happens with 2.0 TDi 140bhp??????? Is there replacement for that one?????? I've seen new model Audi A4 with 2.0 TDi 143bhp common rail. Is that the engine SKoda will have???? I have 2.0 TDi 140bhp and was looking forward to replace it with more or less the same power but not lower like 1.9 TDi 130bhp. __________________ Octavia 2006 2.0 TDI Sport (equal to L&K in UK) - 17' wheels, Sport suspension, Xenons, Audience with Sound System, Bluetooth, Front & Back Parking Sensors - - VAG COM -

05-02-2008, 12:24	#15
auroan Briskoda Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,873 Members Car: AUDI A4 B7 2.0 TDI SE Saloon Thanks: 206 Thanked 112 Times in 98 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia Based on the fact that all replacement engine lines seem to be the same or more powerful.... you may end up with a CR 2.0 TDI down tuned to 140bhp. __________________ '05 Audi A4 2.0 Tdi SE - no mods until the warrenty expires ... yeah right... interior light pack, 3 spoke mfsw. '00 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro - Gone.... (bleeding money pit ) Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

05-02-2008, 14:00	#17
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,575 Members Car: Thanks: 111 Thanked 512 Times in 475 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia I would think the 1.6 CRTDI 130 will replace the PD140 also. Why, because this will lower the cars overall CO2 emissions and so tick another EU target tick box. I doubt you will notice the missing few horses as IIRC it will probably make up for it in other ways. That plus lower emissions, lower tax, less vibration (hopefully save some DMF's) Might even find that the "Elegance TDI" gets the 2.0 CRTDI 170 just like the old elegance got the TDI110 over the TDI90 in the lesser models. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

05-02-2008, 14:49	#18
Staedtler Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 25 Members Car: Octavia 2.0Tdi Elegance hatch Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia No mention of the new 2.0Tdi twin turbo then?? Surely a must have engine for the vRS!

05-02-2008, 17:29	#19
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,575 Members Car: Thanks: 111 Thanked 512 Times in 475 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia Save that engine for Audi for a while me thinks. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

05-02-2008, 17:34	#20
Lady Elanore Geordie Lass Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: in the ceiling watching you..... Posts: 11,079 Members Car: BMW 1 series Thanks: 221 Thanked 230 Times in 139 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia While all this 170bhp malarkey sounds interesting in the diesel variant, the one to get is the new 200bhp TDi 2.0 that’s going into the Audi TT. Now that would be FUN! __________________ . Amanda - All's fair in Love and Car

05-02-2008, 18:08	#21
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,575 Members Car: Thanks: 111 Thanked 512 Times in 475 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia You've got 204 and RWD.. what are you complaining about? __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

05-02-2008, 20:57	#23
Marcus100 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 170 Members Car: Octavia vRS TDi Estate Thanks: 14 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia Well i'm a bit ticked there is gonna be a new engine in the vRS when I specifically asked if there were any updates coming when I got mine last September. Something to look forward to in 2010 I suppose when its time to change. __________________ 2007 Skoda Octavis vRS TDi Estate, pulling a 2008 Bailey Pageant Series 6 Majestic

05-02-2008, 21:49	#24
crocks Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 18 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: New engines for Octavia would this affect cars on order but not built yet? mine is on order, due to be built in april for delivery in may this year...

06-02-2008, 10:24	#25
Lanstrom Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 17 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: New engines for Octavia I have been "assured" by my Skoda dealer that the new engines will only be used in the Fabia and that the Octavias engines will remain until 2010 ! Hands up those who think his story should be filed under FICTION ?? Also ... I have been in contact with other dealers who confirm that the 1.6 FSI is only available in SATIN GREY for anywhere near or on the 1st I have now changed the order to a 1.9 TDI PD ... is this engine pretty quiet ? I have never owned a diesel before.

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