New Octavia - Lights??

gotosh · 06-06-2005, 14:33

Recently purchased a new Octavia Elegance 2.0 TDi PD.

Would someone please confirm that the lights should be permanently on whilst driving and is a new safety feature with these cars, similar to Volvo's.

One would have thought that whilst covering "Lights" the manual would have made a big point of this but it doesn't even get a mention, which i find quite odd??

mdk1 · 06-06-2005, 15:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotosh

Recently purchased a new Octavia Elegance 2.0 TDi PD.

Would someone please confirm that the lights should be permanently on whilst driving and is a new safety feature with these cars, similar to Volvo's.

Sorry to say, not as far as I know. Try phoneing Skoda customer Services.

bengie · 06-06-2005, 15:34

depends what you got your lights set to mate, do you have the auto light thingy?

just double check what the dial is turned to? off may not be up right as the far left setting may not be off.

agent006 · 06-06-2005, 16:51

Lights are only on when you tell them to. Unless you've got auto lights and the sensor's shagged.

Oh, and there's nothing safe about having your lights on all the time.

LesPaul · 06-06-2005, 17:49

Do you have light assist fitted to your car?

jjc · 07-06-2005, 13:13

If you have the light assist then they are on all the time. I think you can have this changed but it is a VAG-COM or dealer thing.

John

patnmand · 07-06-2005, 13:28

Sounds like you've got the light assistant and it's not set up right. If you live in countries that require you to use your lights all the time, the light assistant is set up that way. In the UK it should be set up so they only come on if the ambient light falls below a set level, you're doing more than 90mph (or thereabouts), or it's raining and the wipers are wiping constantly.

I think it's a VAG-COM code that needs changing.

gotosh · 07-06-2005, 16:32

Thank you everyone for your imput.

It appears there is conflict on this matter. Two Skoda Garages have confirmed that the latest Octavia top of the range models have "light Assist" and it is normal for the lights to be on whilst driving!!!

Skoda Customer Services, however, say different and suggest they should be turned off by their local garage. I didn't think to ask at the time of who pays the bill???

Have emailed Skoda HQ asking for confirmation and will let you know the outcome.

Lummox · 07-06-2005, 18:04

The control unit is coded incorrectly for this market. If you do not want them on as they are then its a simple programming procedure to get the working as normal.

***DGW*** · 07-06-2005, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

The control unit is coded incorrectly for this market. If you do not want them on as they are then its a simple programming procedure to get the working as normal.

Can this be done with VAG-COM software and, if so, what needs recoding? (Just asking...)

Lummox · 07-06-2005, 19:46

It cant be done with all VAG COM (not sure if the new software has been updated).

The Octavia 2 uses hexidecimal coding for the convieniance system. VAS 5051 uses a simple program asking you what is fitted to the car and what options you want. It then calculates the correct coding for the ECU. The coding is very long. Manual coding is possible but its pretty difficult and the tables are available to work them out from Skoda, get it wrong and it can create allsorts of problems.

patnmand · 08-06-2005, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotosh

Two Skoda Garages have confirmed that the latest Octavia top of the range models have "light Assist" and it is normal for the lights to be on whilst driving!!!

That's nonsense - don't believe them. I've got the light assist on mine, and the lights only come on when it's dark, raining hard or I go over about 90mph, which is what they are supposed to do. I do know that other people have had your trouble with the light assist though - so it's worth being persistent. Sounds like these dealers are a bit like mine - who had no idea how the light assistant was supposed to work!

rushy · 08-06-2005, 22:11

lights are on constant due to coding issue, dealers havent been issued with bulletin or information about this, you need to arrange to return your car to your supplying dealer then ask them to contact skoda technical services who can talk them through procedure. It literatlly takes about 2 minutes. All they do is change binary code from 1 to 0 or vice versa, Its just a matter of them explaining which one it is
hope this helps

regards

Lummox · 09-06-2005, 00:13

If you use guided functions on VAS 5051 there is no need to change any of the code or know what to do, the machine does it for you, all you need to enter in is yes or no for daytime lights.

dutchnigs · 12-06-2005, 18:25

Picked up new Octi on 1st June(with light assist)...headlamps on ALL the time.(The light switch did NOTHING-in ANY position....)Took it back to Brooklyn Skoda,Alcester...they had had to reset 2 other cars....took them 45 minutes to reset light assist back to 'normal'....But nice folk..got 2 drinks out of them...(Non alchoholic)

clayts · 02-09-2005, 19:21

I had mine reset at the dealer because the lights were on all the time, a 30 minute job and the light assist was fixed. all has was fine till the other night and now they have returned to being on all the time.

I am very disappointed as since the Skoda Garage has started selling Kia’s they don’t seem to care about their Skoda customers any more.

Lummox · 02-09-2005, 19:27

That is very odd indeed as a control unit cant recode itself.

Are the on even when tunnel assist is off?

clayts · 02-09-2005, 20:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

That is very odd indeed as a control unit cant recode itself.

Are the on even when tunnel assist is off?

Nope.

Lummox · 02-09-2005, 20:21

So with the tunnel assist on the lights are on all the time yes?

And with the lights switched to zero they go off.

clayts · 02-09-2005, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

So with the tunnel assist on the lights are on all the time yes?

And with the lights switched to zero they go off.

Yeah thats right

Lummox · 02-09-2005, 21:43

Right so its not the same fault as the others mentioned with regards to coding but a problem with the sensor in the foot of the mirror. Is your screen clean?

clayts · 02-09-2005, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Right so its not the same fault as the others mentioned with regards to coding but a problem with the sensor in the foot of the mirror. Is your screen clean?

are you kidding, with the rain we had a couple of days ago, I am sure i have worn the windscreen thinner

lol

Yeah, its definitely clean, the problem started after the amazing thunder storm we had, the lightning was extremely bright, is it possible that that could have damaged the sensors, as I was driving at the time ?

Lummox · 02-09-2005, 21:57

Maybe, your dealer should be able to check the sensor quite easily.

clayts · 02-09-2005, 22:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Maybe, your dealer should be able to check the sensor quite easily.

It will be a while before i can get to the dealership, but ill let you know what the problem was.

Cheers for the advice.

fredw · 04-09-2005, 07:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by clayts

I am very disappointed as since the Skoda Garage has started selling Kia’s they don’t seem to care about their Skoda customers any more.

My former dealer started to sell Hyundai about a year ago. Its Skoda franchise ended a couple of months ago and its service credentials were removed at the end of August.

I understand that Skoda are asking dealers to make very large investments in their showrooms in order to retain their franchises. Some like mine can't afford to make them.

It is possible that your dealer may be in the same position and is switching to Kia to protect its business.

06-06-2005, 14:33	#1
gotosh Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Anglia Posts: 7 Members Car: Skoda Octavia Elegance 2.0 TDi PD Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New Octavia - Lights?? Recently purchased a new Octavia Elegance 2.0 TDi PD. Would someone please confirm that the lights should be permanently on whilst driving and is a new safety feature with these cars, similar to Volvo's. One would have thought that whilst covering "Lights" the manual would have made a big point of this but it doesn't even get a mention, which i find quite odd??

06-06-2005, 15:34	#3
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,249 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	depends what you got your lights set to mate, do you have the auto light thingy? just double check what the dial is turned to? off may not be up right as the far left setting may not be off. __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

06-06-2005, 16:51	#4
agent006 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 310 Members Car: Fabia 1.4 16v Estate Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Lights are only on when you tell them to. Unless you've got auto lights and the sensor's shagged. Oh, and there's nothing safe about having your lights on all the time. __________________ Posted using 100% recylced electrons.

07-06-2005, 13:28	#7
patnmand Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: South East UK Posts: 215 Members Car: Skoda Octavia Elegance 2.0TDI PD DSG Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like you've got the light assistant and it's not set up right. If you live in countries that require you to use your lights all the time, the light assistant is set up that way. In the UK it should be set up so they only come on if the ambient light falls below a set level, you're doing more than 90mph (or thereabouts), or it's raining and the wipers are wiping constantly. I think it's a VAG-COM code that needs changing. __________________ Patrick Octy II Elegance 2.0PD TDI DSG Flamenco Red Maxi-dot Multifunction Steering wheel Light Assistant Towbar

07-06-2005, 18:04	#9
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	The control unit is coded incorrectly for this market. If you do not want them on as they are then its a simple programming procedure to get the working as normal. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

06-06-2005, 17:49	#5
LesPaul Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 441 Members Car: Graphite Grey 2.0 TDI Estate Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Do you have light assist fitted to your car?

07-06-2005, 13:13	#6
jjc Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 62 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	If you have the light assist then they are on all the time. I think you can have this changed but it is a VAG-COM or dealer thing. John

07-06-2005, 16:32	#8
gotosh Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: East Anglia Posts: 7 Members Car: Skoda Octavia Elegance 2.0 TDi PD Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you everyone for your imput. It appears there is conflict on this matter. Two Skoda Garages have confirmed that the latest Octavia top of the range models have "light Assist" and it is normal for the lights to be on whilst driving!!! Skoda Customer Services, however, say different and suggest they should be turned off by their local garage. I didn't think to ask at the time of who pays the bill??? Have emailed Skoda HQ asking for confirmation and will let you know the outcome.

07-06-2005, 19:46	#11
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	It cant be done with all VAG COM (not sure if the new software has been updated). The Octavia 2 uses hexidecimal coding for the convieniance system. VAS 5051 uses a simple program asking you what is fitted to the car and what options you want. It then calculates the correct coding for the ECU. The coding is very long. Manual coding is possible but its pretty difficult and the tables are available to work them out from Skoda, get it wrong and it can create allsorts of problems. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

08-06-2005, 22:11	#13
rushy Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: west yorkshire Posts: 10 Members Car: skoda octavia VRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	light assist lights are on constant due to coding issue, dealers havent been issued with bulletin or information about this, you need to arrange to return your car to your supplying dealer then ask them to contact skoda technical services who can talk them through procedure. It literatlly takes about 2 minutes. All they do is change binary code from 1 to 0 or vice versa, Its just a matter of them explaining which one it is hope this helps regards

09-06-2005, 00:13	#14
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	If you use guided functions on VAS 5051 there is no need to change any of the code or know what to do, the machine does it for you, all you need to enter in is yes or no for daytime lights. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

12-06-2005, 18:25	#15
dutchnigs Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: west midlands Posts: 16 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Had The Same Thing.... Picked up new Octi on 1st June(with light assist)...headlamps on ALL the time.(The light switch did NOTHING-in ANY position....)Took it back to Brooklyn Skoda,Alcester...they had had to reset 2 other cars....took them 45 minutes to reset light assist back to 'normal'....But nice folk..got 2 drinks out of them...(Non alchoholic)

02-09-2005, 19:21	#16
clayts Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 49 Members Car: Ocatvia II Elagance 2.0 TDI (140) 2006 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had mine reset at the dealer because the lights were on all the time, a 30 minute job and the light assist was fixed. all has was fine till the other night and now they have returned to being on all the time. I am very disappointed as since the Skoda Garage has started selling Kia’s they don’t seem to care about their Skoda customers any more.

02-09-2005, 19:27	#17
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	That is very odd indeed as a control unit cant recode itself. Are the on even when tunnel assist is off? __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

02-09-2005, 20:21	#19
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	So with the tunnel assist on the lights are on all the time yes? And with the lights switched to zero they go off. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

02-09-2005, 21:43	#21
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Right so its not the same fault as the others mentioned with regards to coding but a problem with the sensor in the foot of the mirror. Is your screen clean? __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

02-09-2005, 21:57	#23
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,438 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 747 Times in 627 Posts	Maybe, your dealer should be able to check the sensor quite easily. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

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