The new vRS...........a bit expensive

ag.morley · 13-01-2006, 10:48

Honest opinion guys...........Is the New Octavia worth the money

Goochie · 13-01-2006, 10:49

Having driven the £20k Golf which, its basically the same car, I imagine tthe VRs is a great car for the money.

Not driven one yet though.

redbaron · 13-01-2006, 11:28

depends what you want:

cheapest for best handling: Focus ST-1
poshest: Golf
fastest: VXR Astra
most pracitcal: Octavia vRS Mk2
best looking: personal pref but i would rank Astra then focus then Leon then octy then golf.
best looking modified: to early to tell but suspect Octy / Leon. The Focus / Astra dont need any appearance changes bar wheels on the Focus.

lozgti · 13-01-2006, 11:51

Yes.

But £12k for a one year old one next year will be good

redbaron · 13-01-2006, 11:52

doubt it.

lozgti · 13-01-2006, 12:18

Possible discounts of £700 though so £16500 new,surely it will lose about £4k?

Plus it is being undercut by Focus ST.

I can dream anyway

Shifty · 13-01-2006, 12:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goochie

Having driven the £20k Golf which, its basically the same car, I imagine tthe VRs is a great car for the money.

Not driven one yet though.

Not having driven the Golf, but having driven the Octy, if they are indeed as similar in terms of driving, then the Octy is good value. It felt like a 17k car. The extras bump it up, but in fairness, not as much as they bump the golf up. Theres not much in it between similar specced Octy and Focus either, so, it's no performance bargain, but instead, imo, reasonably placed in the market.

jeffmaddin · 13-01-2006, 13:27

IMO...its to expensive...in comparison to the old mk1 model. I bought a 03 vRS new for £14.5k with parking sensors, and I know other guys on here got even better deals. I appreciate that was with a £1k discount. I don't see the new vRS as being much better or more loaded than my car...accept for the extra power....to justify the extra £2k. Seems they've priced it against the golf not the old model....and not other cars in the market. I mean come on...a Focus ST is cheaper!!! When i got my vRS I felt like I was being smart getting such a good car for such a good price....The new model is getting close to being priced the same as all its competitors...which takes that edge away....for me anyway. Guess its enevitable as it gains popularity. I've read many times on here where guys have wanted to keep the Skoda a secret from the rest of the driving world so it doesn't ruin its appeal...think that time is pretty much here.
I will definately be checking out the new vRS when I replace my car in the next year....but unless there's some serious discounting around....can't see me going there again.

ag.morley · 13-01-2006, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffmaddin

IMO...its to expensive...in comparison to the old mk1 model. I bought a 03 vRS new for £14.5k with parking sensors, and I know other guys on here got even better deals. I appreciate that was with a £1k discount. I don't see the new vRS as being much better or more loaded than my car...accept for the extra power....to justify the extra £2k. Seems they've priced it against the golf not the old model....and not other cars in the market. I mean come on...a Focus ST is cheaper!!! When i got my vRS I felt like I was being smart getting such a good car for such a good price....The new model is getting close to being priced the same as all its competitors...which takes that edge away....for me anyway. Guess its enevitable as it gains popularity. I've read many times on here where guys have wanted to keep the Skoda a secret from the rest of the driving world so it doesn't ruin its appeal...think that time is pretty much here.
I will definately be checking out the new vRS when I replace my car in the next year....but unless there's some serious discounting around....can't see me going there again.

Nice reply Jeff........I can get a Mk 1 octy vRS with parking censors and cruise , Brand new for £ 12.5K.......£5k cheaper and it's got rear leccy windows

jeffmaddin · 13-01-2006, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by ag.morley

Nice reply Jeff........I can get a Mk 1 octy vRS with parking censors and cruise , Brand new for £ 12.5K.......£5k cheaper and it's got rear leccy windows

That is an excellent deal.....for an excellent car....and you could spend another £500-£600 and get it chipped to have more power than the new one...if you wanted it.

pdhealy · 13-01-2006, 13:41

I agree. The new Octavia RS seems to be priced against the Golf Gti, but as a prospective buyer, and I hate to say it, the Golf should have stronger residual value when it comes time to sell it on.

The mark 1's "ace" was the price... when I drove it, I wanted it - when I saw the price, I had to have it! I don't get the same urge with the new model. I love the Golf and know that I will love the new Octavia too, but if I was buying new now, I would probably go the whole hog and get the DSG Golf GTi. Having said that, I will not be changing for at least another year or two, so the new RS may well be a great used bargain by then.

jeffmaddin · 13-01-2006, 13:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdhealy

I agree. The new Octavia RS seems to be priced against the Golf Gti, but as a prospective buyer, and I hate to say it, the Golf should have stronger residual value when it comes time to sell it on.

The mark 1's "ace" was the price... when I drove it, I wanted it - when I saw the price, I had to have it! I don't get the same urge with the new model. I love the Golf and know that I will love the new Octavia too, but if I was buying new now, I would probably go the whole hog and get the DSG Golf GTi. Having said that, I will not be changing for at least another year or two, so the new RS may well be a great used bargain by then.

The Golf will absolutely hold its value more...which I hate to say as well....but its a fact even though arguable the Skoda is better...but at the very least its equal. NOW...if they stuck some toys on the vRS like DSG for the price...bingo....we'd be happy we were getting something special again

Arg · 13-01-2006, 19:37

The new vRS's real price is £18k when compared with the GTi (need to add dual aircon+elec rear windows to be comparable). I personnally think for an extra 2k, the GTi is a nicer car and will probably make the extra two grand on resale value.

I am buying a vRS because the GTi isn't big enough for my family, I cannot afford the Passat and there is nothing else on the market with the same combination of performance, space and low emissions.

Lummox · 13-01-2006, 20:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffmaddin

I bought a 03 vRS new for £14.5k

Yes but remember that car wasnt 14.5k when it was launched.

skodaw · 13-01-2006, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

Yes but remember that car wasnt 14.5k when it was launched.

And it was not as well built - or used the same level of materials.
Also the additional safety & security kit, the better performance,better economy and all the other things that come along with this new model.

Don't forget as well as being basically a golf with a different body - it's also an AUDI with a different body -- the A3 uses the same floorplan,Engine & Gearbox

Lummox · 13-01-2006, 20:24

Isnt the new s-line A3 quattro 220 bhp now.

skodaw · 13-01-2006, 20:50

No thats the 2.0TFSi S-Line A4 -- although I suspect it will soon be -- may even be the engine they use for the S3 thats coming at the end of the year -- they are talking of a 250bhp varient.

But they are also talking of a twin-charger 3.2v6 -- Turbo & Supercharged

postmanpat · 14-01-2006, 16:53

Just tested the car this afternoon, liked the power, seats and position, queit, excellent gearbox good brakes. Happily pulled in sixth from 35mph and on motorway picked up nicely uphill in 6 from 65 (didn't feel as rapid as fabia at this point but reached higher speeds quiker ). Disliked the cheap feeling hard plastics of the radio, centre facia and climate controls, thought rear spoiler hampered rear visibility. HID felt claustrophobic in driving seat, but liked passenger seat. Overall think it is overpriced and spoilt by dash facia controls. Not sure what car thinks it is,too big to be a hot hatch, too slow to warrent group 17 insurance? probably is as cheap and as comfertable as youy can get for a 4/5 seat family car capable of these speeds, but if you want a family car why suffer the insurance? If you want an hot hatch get a Fabia, AMD it and save cash all round. I did enjoy the car tho and would probably pay upto £16/16.5 for dealer spec.

ag.morley · 14-01-2006, 21:33

18" Alloy wheels ......................16" Steel spare

Arg · 14-01-2006, 23:16

My wife's Seat Leon Cupra is the same with a steel spare, this is normal.

**GAFF** · 15-01-2006, 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by ag.morley

18" Alloy wheels ......................16" Steel spare

I was told anything apart from a 16" won't fit !

1FastPug · 15-01-2006, 19:56

It is still fantastic value for money against every other car in the market for what it does (especially the estate) Can anyone else name me a car under £20,000 (let alone £18,500) that has the following going for it;

190+hp
500+litres of luggage compartment
less than 200g/km CO2 emissions
Can tow at least 1400kg
more than 35mpg combined
and be entertaining to drive (A Passat Sport with the TFSi for eaxample is NOT entertaining to drive!)

If someone can find that car (It has to be new) I won't become a Skoda owner.

I think Skoda will sell a lot of them (maybe more than the Mk.1) - Only time will tell....

13-01-2006, 10:48	#1
ag.morley Insecure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right on track........ Posts: 4,944 Members Car: Volvo 2.4 T SE XC70 Auto running on LPG Thanks: 14 Thanked 79 Times in 33 Posts	The new vRS...........a bit expensive Honest opinion guys...........Is the New Octavia worth the money __________________ I now own a Volvo 2.4T Automatic V70 XC 4 wheel drive, Estate, running on LPG......In a Lovely shade of Gold---THE BATTLE TANK "BRISKOLVO ".......THE UK'S ONLY MEMBER......." IT'S THE WAY FORWARD "

13-01-2006, 10:49	#2
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,363 Members Car: Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive Having driven the £20k Golf which, its basically the same car, I imagine tthe VRs is a great car for the money. Not driven one yet though.

13-01-2006, 11:28	#3
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,566 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive depends what you want: cheapest for best handling: Focus ST-1 poshest: Golf fastest: VXR Astra most pracitcal: Octavia vRS Mk2 best looking: personal pref but i would rank Astra then focus then Leon then octy then golf. best looking modified: to early to tell but suspect Octy / Leon. The Focus / Astra dont need any appearance changes bar wheels on the Focus. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

13-01-2006, 11:51	#4
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,719 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive Yes. But £12k for a one year old one next year will be good

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redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,566 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive doubt it. __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

13-01-2006, 12:18	#6
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,719 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive Possible discounts of £700 though so £16500 new,surely it will lose about £4k? Plus it is being undercut by Focus ST. I can dream anyway

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jeffmaddin Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 37 Members Car: Black vRS - reg 03 - no mods Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive IMO...its to expensive...in comparison to the old mk1 model. I bought a 03 vRS new for £14.5k with parking sensors, and I know other guys on here got even better deals. I appreciate that was with a £1k discount. I don't see the new vRS as being much better or more loaded than my car...accept for the extra power....to justify the extra £2k. Seems they've priced it against the golf not the old model....and not other cars in the market. I mean come on...a Focus ST is cheaper!!! When i got my vRS I felt like I was being smart getting such a good car for such a good price....The new model is getting close to being priced the same as all its competitors...which takes that edge away....for me anyway. Guess its enevitable as it gains popularity. I've read many times on here where guys have wanted to keep the Skoda a secret from the rest of the driving world so it doesn't ruin its appeal...think that time is pretty much here. I will definately be checking out the new vRS when I replace my car in the next year....but unless there's some serious discounting around....can't see me going there again. __________________ Jeff 'It doesn't look like a Skoda??'

13-01-2006, 13:41	#11
pdhealy Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 979 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Thanks: 23 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive I agree. The new Octavia RS seems to be priced against the Golf Gti, but as a prospective buyer, and I hate to say it, the Golf should have stronger residual value when it comes time to sell it on. The mark 1's "ace" was the price... when I drove it, I wanted it - when I saw the price, I had to have it! I don't get the same urge with the new model. I love the Golf and know that I will love the new Octavia too, but if I was buying new now, I would probably go the whole hog and get the DSG Golf GTi. Having said that, I will not be changing for at least another year or two, so the new RS may well be a great used bargain by then. __________________ Dear Lord.. The gods have been good to me. For the first time in my life, everything is absolutely perfect just the way it is. So here's the deal: You freeze everything the way it is, and I won't ask for anything more. If that is OK, please give me absolutely no sign. OK, deal.

13-01-2006, 19:37	#13
Arg Briskodian Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 125 Members Car: Octavia vRS & GSXR1000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive The new vRS's real price is £18k when compared with the GTi (need to add dual aircon+elec rear windows to be comparable). I personnally think for an extra 2k, the GTi is a nicer car and will probably make the extra two grand on resale value. I am buying a vRS because the GTi isn't big enough for my family, I cannot afford the Passat and there is nothing else on the market with the same combination of performance, space and low emissions. __________________ mmm, 150mph car or 180mph bike, some decisions in life can be tuff to make.

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skodaw Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: This area is under construction - please call back later :) Posts: 3,186 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive No thats the 2.0TFSi S-Line A4 -- although I suspect it will soon be -- may even be the engine they use for the S3 thats coming at the end of the year -- they are talking of a 250bhp varient. But they are also talking of a twin-charger 3.2v6 -- Turbo & Supercharged __________________ Dave '05 Silver Fabia vRS

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ag.morley Insecure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right on track........ Posts: 4,944 Members Car: Volvo 2.4 T SE XC70 Auto running on LPG Thanks: 14 Thanked 79 Times in 33 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive 18" Alloy wheels ......................16" Steel spare __________________ I now own a Volvo 2.4T Automatic V70 XC 4 wheel drive, Estate, running on LPG......In a Lovely shade of Gold---THE BATTLE TANK "BRISKOLVO ".......THE UK'S ONLY MEMBER......." IT'S THE WAY FORWARD "

14-01-2006, 23:16	#20
Arg Briskodian Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bedfordshire Posts: 125 Members Car: Octavia vRS & GSXR1000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The new vRS...........A bit Expencive My wife's Seat Leon Cupra is the same with a steel spare, this is normal. __________________ mmm, 150mph car or 180mph bike, some decisions in life can be tuff to make.

15-01-2006, 19:56	#22
1FastPug Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Midlands UK Posts: 39 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The new vRS...........a bit expensive It is still fantastic value for money against every other car in the market for what it does (especially the estate) Can anyone else name me a car under £20,000 (let alone £18,500) that has the following going for it; 190+hp 500+litres of luggage compartment less than 200g/km CO2 emissions Can tow at least 1400kg more than 35mpg combined and be entertaining to drive (A Passat Sport with the TFSi for eaxample is NOT entertaining to drive!) If someone can find that car (It has to be new) I won't become a Skoda owner. I think Skoda will sell a lot of them (maybe more than the Mk.1) - Only time will tell.... __________________ Octy II vRS Estate Race Blue, Rear Parking Sensors, Cruise Control and Detachable Towbar 106GTi Race Car, 180hp, 850kg......Road Registered

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