Noise on cold start.

Harry_vRS · 19-12-2006, 11:44

I've owned my brand new Octavia vRS for week now. Last night as I started the car up for my journey home from work it made quite a concerning noise. The sort of noise a slipping fanbelt makes. I opened the bonnet to have a look, and it wasn't the fanbelt but the sound was coming from around the top left corner of the engine cover. It is the petrol TFSI version.

Outside temps were around 3 degrees.

I let her sit there warming up for a good 5 minutes, in which time the noise became quieter as it warmed up.

After I let it warm up I decided to go on my way, keeping the revs below 3k. It came to a point where the noise has momenterally stopped so I booted it just the once and there was no drop in performance whatsoever. For the rest of the journey it appeared that the sound had gone.

Then this morning I started it for the journey to work, and it was doing it again. After it warms up it goes away.

Should I get the AA out to have a look at it?

It's a bit concerning as the car is only 1 week old which has been driven sensibly for its short, but entire life so far.

Any help or advice would be fantastic.

Harry

Superted · 19-12-2006, 12:40

Yes, i have a suggestion.....If it's only a week old take it back to your dealer, presumably it's under warranty!?

Personally i would not like the idea of Mr AA spannerman looking at it at such a young age, not unless you need a tow to the dealer that is.

**VRStu** · 19-12-2006, 13:20

As Ken says pop it back to your dealer for a check over.

katkins · 19-12-2006, 16:00

I'd be inclined to call the dealer from a mobile while it is cold and making the noise and ask for their advice! No point in arriving at the dealer with it all warmed up! If they say 'bring it in', fine. If they say 'tow it in', fine. If they say 'it'll be OK'(!!!), I'd then ring Skoda Customer Services and get their advice. They should then record it as a potential problem under your reg mark, which may help on a warranty claim in the future.

A 'slipping fanbelt' type noise from the top of the engine sounds, worst case, like oil starvation on the camshafts, best case, just a 'clearance' problem with a bolt head just touching a rotating part until it all heats up.

ap0gee · 19-12-2006, 16:10

Don't know if it's relevant, but there was a thread on here last winter about Fabias making a sort of whistling / squeaking noise when warming up on a cold day. IIRC, everyone agreed that the noise went away once their cars warmed up, so it was probably Just One Of Those Things...

TeflonTom · 19-12-2006, 16:15

isn't that where the auxillary air pump hides??

they sometimes get a bit noisey!

Harry_vRS · 20-12-2006, 20:06

Well the car is back at the dealers hopefully find a solution tomorrow. Not that impressed - £19k car, 1 week old and its already back

Octygone · 22-12-2006, 12:50

My fabia made a nasty squeaky rattly noise this morning, but it went away after a few seconds. Didnt do much winter driving in my 1.4 last year, so im being very cautious bout what the car does.

Kev

Glenn1948 · 28-12-2006, 14:28

Mine is doing exactly the same. Dealer attempted fix by repositioning cam belt cover to no effect. Booked in again next week.

Harry_vRS · 28-12-2006, 14:29

Mine got fixed within 2 days. (FR Pulleyn of York are excellent)

When I picked it up the mechanics had gone home so I'm not sure on what exactly was the matter with it, but all is well now.

Glenn1948 · 29-12-2006, 18:44

Could you find out what the problem was as my dealer has failed to find the fault

Glenn1948 · 18-01-2007, 14:00

Thanks for the info Harry, my car has been diagnosed with the same problem as yours. It seems that on start up when the temp is below around 4 degrees C, the cam belt pulley is fouling the upper cam cover. The fix requires replacement of both the upper cam belt covers. Unfortunately these covers are not available in the country and are on "Back Order" no telling when they might be fitted. Could this be because so many are being required?

Tom_vRS · 18-01-2007, 14:08

I'm guessing they just adjusted the cover if it was done on the same day.

Glenn1948 · 18-01-2007, 17:59

Take your point but F R Pulleyn reckon they replaced two cam belt covers

Harry_vRS · 18-01-2007, 18:06

Yes they did. Very quick diagnosis and swiftly dealt with. I was back on the road in no time.

19-12-2006, 11:44	#1
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Noise on cold start. I've owned my brand new Octavia vRS for week now. Last night as I started the car up for my journey home from work it made quite a concerning noise. The sort of noise a slipping fanbelt makes. I opened the bonnet to have a look, and it wasn't the fanbelt but the sound was coming from around the top left corner of the engine cover. It is the petrol TFSI version. Outside temps were around 3 degrees. I let her sit there warming up for a good 5 minutes, in which time the noise became quieter as it warmed up. After I let it warm up I decided to go on my way, keeping the revs below 3k. It came to a point where the noise has momenterally stopped so I booted it just the once and there was no drop in performance whatsoever. For the rest of the journey it appeared that the sound had gone. Then this morning I started it for the journey to work, and it was doing it again. After it warms up it goes away. Should I get the AA out to have a look at it? It's a bit concerning as the car is only 1 week old which has been driven sensibly for its short, but entire life so far. Any help or advice would be fantastic. Harry __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

19-12-2006, 12:40	#2
Superted Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Posts: 428 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Yes, i have a suggestion.....If it's only a week old take it back to your dealer, presumably it's under warranty!? Personally i would not like the idea of Mr AA spannerman looking at it at such a young age, not unless you need a tow to the dealer that is. __________________ cheeRS:

19-12-2006, 13:20	#3
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. As Ken says pop it back to your dealer for a check over. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

19-12-2006, 16:00	#4
katkins Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SW London Posts: 21 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. I'd be inclined to call the dealer from a mobile while it is cold and making the noise and ask for their advice! No point in arriving at the dealer with it all warmed up! If they say 'bring it in', fine. If they say 'tow it in', fine. If they say 'it'll be OK'(!!!), I'd then ring Skoda Customer Services and get their advice. They should then record it as a potential problem under your reg mark, which may help on a warranty claim in the future. A 'slipping fanbelt' type noise from the top of the engine sounds, worst case, like oil starvation on the camshafts, best case, just a 'clearance' problem with a bolt head just touching a rotating part until it all heats up.

19-12-2006, 16:10	#5
ap0gee ASZ Eternal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Leafy Chesh-shire Posts: 6,862 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 346 Thanked 366 Times in 317 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Don't know if it's relevant, but there was a thread on here last winter about Fabias making a sort of whistling / squeaking noise when warming up on a cold day. IIRC, everyone agreed that the noise went away once their cars warmed up, so it was probably Just One Of Those Things... __________________

19-12-2006, 16:15	#6
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 8,240 Members Car: Fabia 2.0/Felicia Thanks: 48 Thanked 233 Times in 205 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. isn't that where the auxillary air pump hides?? they sometimes get a bit noisey!

20-12-2006, 20:06	#7
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Well the car is back at the dealers hopefully find a solution tomorrow. Not that impressed - £19k car, 1 week old and its already back __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

22-12-2006, 12:50	#8
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,822 Members Car: Octavia II tdi ..for now Thanks: 182 Thanked 116 Times in 75 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. My fabia made a nasty squeaky rattly noise this morning, but it went away after a few seconds. Didnt do much winter driving in my 1.4 last year, so im being very cautious bout what the car does. Kev __________________

28-12-2006, 14:28	#9
Glenn1948 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Mine is doing exactly the same. Dealer attempted fix by repositioning cam belt cover to no effect. Booked in again next week.

28-12-2006, 14:29	#10
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Mine got fixed within 2 days. (FR Pulleyn of York are excellent) When I picked it up the mechanics had gone home so I'm not sure on what exactly was the matter with it, but all is well now. __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

29-12-2006, 18:44	#11
Glenn1948 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Could you find out what the problem was as my dealer has failed to find the fault

18-01-2007, 14:00	#12
Glenn1948 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Thanks for the info Harry, my car has been diagnosed with the same problem as yours. It seems that on start up when the temp is below around 4 degrees C, the cam belt pulley is fouling the upper cam cover. The fix requires replacement of both the upper cam belt covers. Unfortunately these covers are not available in the country and are on "Back Order" no telling when they might be fitted. Could this be because so many are being required?

18-01-2007, 14:08	#13
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,541 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 433 Times in 310 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. I'm guessing they just adjusted the cover if it was done on the same day. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

18-01-2007, 17:59	#14
Glenn1948 Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 9 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Take your point but F R Pulleyn reckon they replaced two cam belt covers

18-01-2007, 18:06	#15
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Noise on cold start. Yes they did. Very quick diagnosis and swiftly dealt with. I was back on the road in no time. __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

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