Octavia Facelift

nokiauk · 10-08-2008, 09:01

As 2009 MY cars are most likely now starting production I'm guessing that the Octavia facelift won't now appear until the 2010 MY starts production.

Which is a pity as I was hoping Bluetooth kit would make it to factory options for the new model year esp as it's available in the new Superb.

**VRStu** · 10-08-2008, 09:48

I think you'll find the facelift commences build in WK33 which is week commencing 11th August.

nokiauk · 10-08-2008, 09:52

thanks take that means the brochure I got from my dealer yesterday was out of date. So will any models ordered from factory from now be the facelift model and if so will the factory options change?

**VRStu** · 10-08-2008, 09:55

Ahh no, don't go getting ahead of yourself just yet -

I didn't say that production of the current models had stopped - Although some engines have been discontinued.

Secondly it may not be released to the UK immediately, it'll probably be available in CZ first.

nokiauk · 10-08-2008, 09:56

well I am also considering the superb which I can't see at my dealer till mid september so hopefully things may be clearer by then

Tidza · 11-08-2008, 13:46

Stu

If I understand you correctly, some Facelift Octavias will be starting production today?

If that is the case, surely there would have been some information (or leaks!) on the revised specs?

I was planning on swapping out my 3 year old L&K until I heard a facelifted version was pending, but any attempts to discover anything about this revised edition have drawn a blank.

Do you (or does anyone else) have any more information - no matter how trivial! - on what we can expect?

Thanks

Neil

helix · 11-08-2008, 19:20

Hi
I too am interested in when the facelift arrives!
The two or three dealers I've spoken to have said they don't expect to see any till the new year (as an Autumn release would clash with the new Superb).
However, what seem to be positive clues for a facelift to be available sooner are:
what seems to be an increased availability of "nearly new" Octavias from Skoda UK;
a willingness of dealers to be flexible to help me get a current model with attractive deals;
the "rationalisation" of the current range, which Stu has pointed out. Currently this means you can't get a new petrol auto except a 1.6 Ambiente or 2.0 L&K, so I'd be surprised if a new option wasn't made available soon to fill the gap (possibly a 1.8T DSG as in the new Superb I'd guess), and though this wouldn't require a facelift it might make sense to offer a new range with a new look.
So nothing definite I'm afraid, but a few hints!

**VRStu** · 11-08-2008, 19:22

Afraid I don't really have much more than that to go on at the moment.

Carjacked Mike · 11-08-2008, 20:15

Only this:-

Carjacked Mike · 11-08-2008, 20:20

And:-
Škoda Octavia 2 Facelift

New Golf GTI motor (211 bhp?)
Adaptive headlamps?
DSG with Paddles?

Mike

skorob2007 · 11-08-2008, 21:35

I got an email through from Skoda Auto CZ today saying that a New Octavia will be launched at the end of the year.
Whether or not we will get it here then is another matter.Usually we are a few months behind because our steering wheel's on the wrong side.

No Waiting · 11-08-2008, 22:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by skorob2007

Usually we are a few months behind because our steering wheel's on the wrong side.

and i thought it took them a few months to realise that they had built the first batch with it on the wrong side

flynntech · 12-08-2008, 08:43

My local dealer told me that there will be a facelift coming at the end of the year.

Allams Skoda · 12-08-2008, 17:23

For some reason I was expecting facelift Octavia to go into production in November. Not sure where abouts I heard this though so don't take it as gospel.

Tidza · 12-08-2008, 17:39

If this was the case, James (and no, I'm not taking it as gospel

), when would these vehicles first be available in the UK? And when might we expect to see specs, so we could decide whether to order one up?

Thanks

Neil

helix · 12-08-2008, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tidza

If this was the case, James (and no, I'm not taking it as gospel

), when would these vehicles first be available in the UK? And when might we expect to see specs, so we could decide whether to order one up?

Thanks

Neil

I share your feelings.
James may well be on the right track. Some while ago, if I recall correctly, AutoExpress suggested October/November time as the likely time for the arrival of a facelift (in UK I assumed at the time). I don't think they stated their source.
trouble is, we're probably all hearing the same rumours recycled. The one piece that sounds like a hard fact is production starting in build week 33 from VRStu (Stu: are you able to divulge your source?) Skoda seem to be very tight-lipped on this matter, including with their dealers, which perhaps suggests the facelift is not imminent, despite other indications it is. I'd like to think sooner rather than later as I'm ready to buy a new car, and don't know how long or even whether to wait!

**VRStu** · 12-08-2008, 20:32

I have a friend in CZ, I heard from him.

As for everyone else it's very much word of mouth, nothing in writing as such.

gregozedobe · 14-08-2008, 01:00

The reason it is difficult to get reliable info about facelifts from manufacturers and dealers is very simple. If prospective buyers know for sure when a facelift is coming they often either refuse to buy the old (pre-facelift) cars or they want a big discount on them (to compensate for the reduced resale value when they eventually want to sell it on).

Either way it is in the manufacturers and dealers best (financial) interests to keep it secret as long as possible and deny, deny, deny so they can continue to sell the pre-facelift cars for as high a price as possible. It has always been like this, and will likely continue.

People being people though, eventually someone will leak some real info or some photos will get out, usually on the web. Look at the recent details of the Mk 6 golf for an example - the official photos were unofficially released and VW finally 'fessed up. Of course sometimes smart PR people make their official release look like a leak to add to the buzz and get more publicity.

Allams Skoda · 14-08-2008, 09:00

I imagine the facelift Octavia will have some price changes to pull it further away from the Superb, I reckon this free upgrade offer will stick and eventually Octavias will naturally be that price. I don't think much in the way of standard spec will change perhaps small things like curtain airbags on Ambiente and above as standard, or maybe sat-nav standard on L&K but nothing to major, it is already to close to the new Superb as it is.

gregozedobe- How are Skoda selling in Australia? I fancy a change of scenery, I wonder how hard it would be getting a job selling Skodas in Oz instead of UK.... Hmm...

Stoofa · 14-08-2008, 10:58

Of course "leaked" pictures can have an opposit effect on sales.
For example if I was looking to buy a Golf right now I'd be rushing out and going for the Mk5 as personally I think the new Mk6 looks a complete mess!

gregozedobe · 14-08-2008, 13:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesRothwell

gregozedobe- How are Skoda selling in Australia? I fancy a change of scenery, I wonder how hard it would be getting a job selling Skodas in Oz instead of UK.... Hmm...

I think you will be working hard for your money

See post #24 in the thread below for the latest figures. Aussie buyers seem to be pretty conservative, and while many people are aware of the Skoda brand it isn't translating into lots of sales so far (whereas VW are doing very well indeed).

It doesn't help that about 10 or 15 years VAG had a half-hearted attempt at selling Seats, but abandoned the brand (presumably due to poor profits) after several years.

To be brutally honest I wouldn't have even considered my RS wagon if it didn't share technology and mechanical components with the Golf GTI (I like to keep my cars for 10 - 20 years, that way I reduce the pain of the intial new car depreciation by spreading it over many years).

Skoda Auto Sales in Australia via vfacts - Page 3 - VWwatercooled Australia

helix · 14-08-2008, 16:20

[quote=gregozedobe;1396982]The reason it is difficult to get reliable info about facelifts from manufacturers and dealers is very simple. If prospective buyers know for sure when a facelift is coming they often either refuse to buy the old (pre-facelift) cars or they want a big discount on them (to compensate for the reduced resale value when they eventually want to sell it on).

Either way it is in the manufacturers and dealers best (financial) interests to keep it secret as long as possible and deny, deny, deny so they can continue to sell the pre-facelift cars for as high a price as possible. It has always been like this, and will likely continue.

I'm sure this is a major factor Gregozedobe. Skoda UK haven't even replied to my email enquiring about a facelift.
Nevertheless manufacturers want to announce facelifts eventually. and boost sales with their revitalised model and its publicity. There is a credibility issue too: many Skoda dealers at least have built good relationships with an increasingly brand loyal group of customers. I guess there's a point when dealers would judge no-one would benefit if a customer got a pre-facelift model only to discover they could have ordered a facelifted one only days later.
It's an interesting case with the Octavia in UK: there are very good discounts to be had, suggesting the trade knows about an imminent facelift, yet it would seem sales are still good (perhaps because of the good deals) given the large number of new/recent Octavias on the road.
I'd be really interested in a dealer's view on this.

Weps · 14-08-2008, 23:23

Found this possible facelift on the net. If this is how the new Octavia will look like, I'll buy one immediately!

Tidza · 15-08-2008, 09:19

Now that does look the business, Weps!

Any chance of getting your 'Czec mate' to do a translation, Stu?

Neil

Tidza · 15-08-2008, 09:53

There are a couple more pictures here on this Octavia Facelift wohl erst 2008 thread on Briskoda Friends Muenchen site

Skodafreunde-Muenchen | Skoda Octavia II | Octavia Facelift wohl erst 2008

It would appear we aren't the only facelift obsessives out there....

Neil

10-08-2008, 09:01	#1
nokiauk Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 249 Members Car: Saab 93 Vector Sport TDI Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Octavia Facelift As 2009 MY cars are most likely now starting production I'm guessing that the Octavia facelift won't now appear until the 2010 MY starts production. Which is a pity as I was hoping Bluetooth kit would make it to factory options for the new model year esp as it's available in the new Superb.

10-08-2008, 09:52	#3
nokiauk Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 249 Members Car: Saab 93 Vector Sport TDI Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift thanks take that means the brochure I got from my dealer yesterday was out of date. So will any models ordered from factory from now be the facelift model and if so will the factory options change?

10-08-2008, 09:55	#4
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Ahh no, don't go getting ahead of yourself just yet - I didn't say that production of the current models had stopped - Although some engines have been discontinued. Secondly it may not be released to the UK immediately, it'll probably be available in CZ first. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

10-08-2008, 09:56	#5
nokiauk Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 249 Members Car: Saab 93 Vector Sport TDI Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift well I am also considering the superb which I can't see at my dealer till mid september so hopefully things may be clearer by then

11-08-2008, 13:46	#6
Tidza Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 14 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Stu If I understand you correctly, some Facelift Octavias will be starting production today? If that is the case, surely there would have been some information (or leaks!) on the revised specs? I was planning on swapping out my 3 year old L&K until I heard a facelifted version was pending, but any attempts to discover anything about this revised edition have drawn a blank. Do you (or does anyone else) have any more information - no matter how trivial! - on what we can expect? Thanks Neil

10-08-2008, 09:48	#2
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift I think you'll find the facelift commences build in WK33 which is week commencing 11th August. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

11-08-2008, 19:20	#7
helix Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 87 Members Car: Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Hi I too am interested in when the facelift arrives! The two or three dealers I've spoken to have said they don't expect to see any till the new year (as an Autumn release would clash with the new Superb). However, what seem to be positive clues for a facelift to be available sooner are: what seems to be an increased availability of "nearly new" Octavias from Skoda UK; a willingness of dealers to be flexible to help me get a current model with attractive deals; the "rationalisation" of the current range, which Stu has pointed out. Currently this means you can't get a new petrol auto except a 1.6 Ambiente or 2.0 L&K, so I'd be surprised if a new option wasn't made available soon to fill the gap (possibly a 1.8T DSG as in the new Superb I'd guess), and though this wouldn't require a facelift it might make sense to offer a new range with a new look. So nothing definite I'm afraid, but a few hints!

11-08-2008, 19:22	#8
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Afraid I don't really have much more than that to go on at the moment. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

11-08-2008, 20:20	#10
Carjacked Mike Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Magull Liverpool Posts: 347 Members Car: EX-Honda CTR, hopes for Skoda RS Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift And:- Škoda Octavia 2 Facelift New Golf GTI motor (211 bhp?) Adaptive headlamps? DSG with Paddles? Mike

11-08-2008, 21:35	#11
skorob2007 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Peterborough Posts: 610 Members Car: Thanks: 37 Thanked 78 Times in 54 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift I got an email through from Skoda Auto CZ today saying that a New Octavia will be launched at the end of the year. Whether or not we will get it here then is another matter.Usually we are a few months behind because our steering wheel's on the wrong side.

12-08-2008, 08:43	#13
flynntech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Eire Posts: 407 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift My local dealer told me that there will be a facelift coming at the end of the year. __________________ VAGdrivers.net - Ireland's online VAG community

12-08-2008, 17:23	#14
Allams Skoda James Rothwell Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Epsom, Surrey Posts: 964 Members Car: Skoda Demos! Images: 16 Thanks: 25 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift For some reason I was expecting facelift Octavia to go into production in November. Not sure where abouts I heard this though so don't take it as gospel. __________________ Allams Briskoda Offers New Superb 2.0TDi SE - £19,490 (Mocca Brown with Leather & Sunset Glass!) Candy White Octavia vRS DSG Estate - £19,199 (Includes lot of options!) Fabia Greenline - £10,775 (109g/km - save the penguins!)

12-08-2008, 17:39	#15
Tidza Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 14 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift If this was the case, James (and no, I'm not taking it as gospel ), when would these vehicles first be available in the UK? And when might we expect to see specs, so we could decide whether to order one up? Thanks Neil

12-08-2008, 20:32	#17
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,847 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift I have a friend in CZ, I heard from him. As for everyone else it's very much word of mouth, nothing in writing as such. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

14-08-2008, 01:00	#18
gregozedobe Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 204 Members Car: Thanks: 2 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift The reason it is difficult to get reliable info about facelifts from manufacturers and dealers is very simple. If prospective buyers know for sure when a facelift is coming they often either refuse to buy the old (pre-facelift) cars or they want a big discount on them (to compensate for the reduced resale value when they eventually want to sell it on). Either way it is in the manufacturers and dealers best (financial) interests to keep it secret as long as possible and deny, deny, deny so they can continue to sell the pre-facelift cars for as high a price as possible. It has always been like this, and will likely continue. People being people though, eventually someone will leak some real info or some photos will get out, usually on the web. Look at the recent details of the Mk 6 golf for an example - the official photos were unofficially released and VW finally 'fessed up. Of course sometimes smart PR people make their official release look like a leak to add to the buzz and get more publicity. __________________ Sprint Yellow 2008 Octavia II RS Wagon 2.0TFSI manual (Xenons) White 2006 VW Transporter LWB van 2.5 TDI manual (camper)

14-08-2008, 09:00	#19
Allams Skoda James Rothwell Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Epsom, Surrey Posts: 964 Members Car: Skoda Demos! Images: 16 Thanks: 25 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift I imagine the facelift Octavia will have some price changes to pull it further away from the Superb, I reckon this free upgrade offer will stick and eventually Octavias will naturally be that price. I don't think much in the way of standard spec will change perhaps small things like curtain airbags on Ambiente and above as standard, or maybe sat-nav standard on L&K but nothing to major, it is already to close to the new Superb as it is. gregozedobe- How are Skoda selling in Australia? I fancy a change of scenery, I wonder how hard it would be getting a job selling Skodas in Oz instead of UK.... Hmm... __________________ Allams Briskoda Offers New Superb 2.0TDi SE - £19,490 (Mocca Brown with Leather & Sunset Glass!) Candy White Octavia vRS DSG Estate - £19,199 (Includes lot of options!) Fabia Greenline - £10,775 (109g/km - save the penguins!)

14-08-2008, 10:58	#20
Stoofa Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 130 Members Car: Octavia vRS TFSI Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Of course "leaked" pictures can have an opposit effect on sales. For example if I was looking to buy a Golf right now I'd be rushing out and going for the Mk5 as personally I think the new Mk6 looks a complete mess!

14-08-2008, 16:20	#22
helix Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 87 Members Car: Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift [quote=gregozedobe;1396982]The reason it is difficult to get reliable info about facelifts from manufacturers and dealers is very simple. If prospective buyers know for sure when a facelift is coming they often either refuse to buy the old (pre-facelift) cars or they want a big discount on them (to compensate for the reduced resale value when they eventually want to sell it on). Either way it is in the manufacturers and dealers best (financial) interests to keep it secret as long as possible and deny, deny, deny so they can continue to sell the pre-facelift cars for as high a price as possible. It has always been like this, and will likely continue. I'm sure this is a major factor Gregozedobe. Skoda UK haven't even replied to my email enquiring about a facelift. Nevertheless manufacturers want to announce facelifts eventually. and boost sales with their revitalised model and its publicity. There is a credibility issue too: many Skoda dealers at least have built good relationships with an increasingly brand loyal group of customers. I guess there's a point when dealers would judge no-one would benefit if a customer got a pre-facelift model only to discover they could have ordered a facelifted one only days later. It's an interesting case with the Octavia in UK: there are very good discounts to be had, suggesting the trade knows about an imminent facelift, yet it would seem sales are still good (perhaps because of the good deals) given the large number of new/recent Octavias on the road. I'd be really interested in a dealer's view on this.

14-08-2008, 23:23	#23
Weps Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Found this possible facelift on the net. If this is how the new Octavia will look like, I'll buy one immediately!

15-08-2008, 09:19	#24
Tidza Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 14 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift Now that does look the business, Weps! Any chance of getting your 'Czec mate' to do a translation, Stu? Neil

15-08-2008, 09:53	#25
Tidza Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 14 Members Car: Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Octavia Facelift There are a couple more pictures here on this Octavia Facelift wohl erst 2008 thread on Briskoda Friends Muenchen site Skodafreunde-Muenchen \| Skoda Octavia II \| Octavia Facelift wohl erst 2008 It would appear we aren't the only facelift obsessives out there.... Neil

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