Should I wait for the New RS...

garym2000 · 13-11-2005, 15:44

Hi Folkes,

Up until 18 months ago I owned a lovely Octy RS, it was my pride and joy, but family came in the way of it, and I ended up with a Citreon Picasso Diesel ! - What a friggin mistake that was !

Anyway, last week my local skoda dealer mailed me to say I can have a brand new Octy RS Mk1 for £12,800 which seems a bit of a bargain, but I am tempted to wait for the new one in the new year, what do you think....

Dr Zoidberg · 13-11-2005, 15:57

The new octy will be very good , but thats an extra five grand on the cost of a Mk1 , and I'd rather have the money to spend on something else.

bengie · 13-11-2005, 16:09

mk1 vRS £12,800
KW coil overs £1,000
FMIC £1,000
turbo back exhaust £600
E05 turbo from IP £1,750
DS 2500 pads £100

total £17,450

i know what i'd get

**delcac** · 13-11-2005, 16:10

Hmmm

I wonder what I could do with a new Mk1 Octy vRS and 5K.

garym2000 · 13-11-2005, 16:17

Thanks, still not sure though, 5K is a massive saving but I presume depreciation will be worse on the old one too, so after 3 years or so, the new one would be worth far more?

Chris.G · 13-11-2005, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by garym2000

Thanks, still not sure though, 5K is a massive saving but I presume depreciation will be worse on the old one too, so after 3 years or so, the new one would be worth far more?

MK2 may be worth more but you would have paid more for it.

I would prop go for the MK2 myself, im kind of toying with the idea right now.

Ill be waiting a while for the ex demo models to become avalible and a lot depends on what they will give me for mine in part ex.

mdk1 · 13-11-2005, 16:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by garym2000

Thanks, still not sure though, 5K is a massive saving but I presume depreciation will be worse on the old one too, so after 3 years or so, the new one would be worth far more?

If both cars loose 50% in 3 years, your still better off with the mk 1, as 50% of £12,800 is less than 50% of £17800,
you could proberbly have a mk1 in 2-3weeks

JMK2 · 13-11-2005, 16:54

From the reviews IMHO the Mk1 is a better bet.

I personally prefer to wait for a year after a new car is launched (exception is a Fabia SDi - Fabia had been out a year and SDi was an established engine). However even that had a couple of gremlins - all sorted quickly.

That being said this is a run out car and may have been built with more care. I'd go for it if I had the cash.

Dr Zoidberg · 13-11-2005, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by garym2000

Thanks, still not sure though, 5K is a massive saving but I presume depreciation will be worse on the old one too, so after 3 years or so, the new one would be worth far more?

Even if the new one has a slightly higher percentage residual value , you will lose a lot more on the new VRS than the older one.

garym2000 · 13-11-2005, 17:54

Thanks for the advice. I suppose it's down to which car is likely to be better, and I can only suppose it will be the newer model, however the old vRS is a hard act to beat.

oldeboi · 13-11-2005, 18:20

I had the same dilema,
the thing that swung it for me was the fact that it is to be a long term affair so deppreciation wouldnt be a consideration, not to mention the fact that although my 1.6 was a great car, i had always promised myself an RS and regretted not doing it right first time!

Johnnyc · 13-11-2005, 23:26

Up until yesterday I would have said wait for the new one but have you seen the the black 2004 mkI that just went up for sale on here. Really beautiful car. The MkI is great value and it sounds like a good deal but why not take the MkII Sport out for a test drive anyway and then imagine it with 1/3 more power. Also compare specs on the toys front. Skoda it would seem have been a bit mean with the standard spec of the new vRS.

andy2407 · 13-11-2005, 23:39

If they are mentioning £12,800 in a mail-shot, I'm sure you could get closer to £12/12.5k if you wave some cash at the salesman.
Can't believe the price they quote in a letter will be their bottom line.
Its a bargin - go for it!

Makefish · 15-11-2005, 16:14

A bargain to be had most definately but I think you could drive them down even further!!. My local dealer was selling Mk1 Octy VRS's for £11.5k not so long ago. Beat the dealers with a stick if you decide to go for it!!. Good luck on whatever you decide.

ScoobyChris · 15-11-2005, 16:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr zoidberg

Even if the new one has a slightly higher percentage residual value , you will lose a lot more on the new VRS than the older one.

I know when the radical bug-eye Impreza was launched late reg classic-shape Impreza's actually appreciated because they became more desirable than the new ones. Will wait with interest to see how the Octy II vRS is received!

Chris

garym2000 · 16-11-2005, 00:13

There has also been mention of a Diesel Octy vRS, has anyone got the performance specs?

Dr Zoidberg · 16-11-2005, 00:15

It will be the same 168bhp engine as will be fitted in the new Passat.

No performance specs have been released yet.

Stuart_J · 16-11-2005, 06:42

I would go for it, the "Classic" Octy is a proven excellent car & if moneys tight anyway you know you will be getting an excellent affordable car for good money.
Who knows how good the new age Octy RS will be, Ive heard a lot of winges about build quality on the new Octys, lots of rattles & squeeks from the trim. Weve tried only one so far, an L&K and there were rattles everywhere, Im hoping that was just a bad one othetrwise it might not be a Skoda to replace our current L&K

Johnnyc · 16-11-2005, 09:49

It will be pricey though. Read an article lately in which they compared the Jetta 140bhp & 170(168)bhp versions. The 170 was slightly quicker to 60 but the difference between the 2 was almost unnoticeable at speed. The 170 was also a bit of a dog to drive as it is even more peaky than the 140. Personally in your shoes i'd go for the 140 elegance with sports suspension and uprated alloys. You would get lots more toys than the vRS and if you wanted to to swap out the grlle, front and rear bumpers at a later stage you can.

Johnnyc · 16-11-2005, 09:51

Also expect a drop of 10% economy in the vRS TDi. Not worth it IMO

lozgti · 16-11-2005, 10:08

£12k for a 146mph car with loads of kit.I'd say thats a bit of a bargain.

Johnnyc · 16-11-2005, 10:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozgti

£12k for a 146mph car with loads of kit.I'd say thats a bit of a bargain.

What car are you taking about lozgti? A Furby vRS or a Mk1 Octy vRS?

lozgti · 16-11-2005, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnnyc

What car are you taking about lozgti? A Furby vRS or a Mk1 Octy vRS?

Sorry,Octy vRS mark 1.Garage by us offering new ones for about £12,300,same price as a furby.

To put it in perspective,the same price as a new Vauhall Astra 1.4.

Johnnyc · 16-11-2005, 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozgti

Sorry,Octy vRS mark 1.Garage by us offering new ones for about £12,300,same price as a furby.

To put it in perspective,the same price as a new Vauhall Astra 1.4.

Sounds nice and cracking value too but I think Gary is wanting to switch over to diesel.

My 2.0TDi is pretty quick and there's probably not much of a difference in 'in-gear' performance between it and the Mk1 vRS. 0-60 is over a second behind the vRS and top speed is only 129 mph but I don't need anymore than a 120 mph top speed for everyday driving anyway

You can't fault it on Economy either.

garym2000 · 19-11-2005, 23:27

Thanks everyone, MK1 octy I think is the way forward, used to have one, wish I had never let it go... !

13-11-2005, 15:44	#1
garym2000 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 146 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Should I wait for the New RS... Hi Folkes, Up until 18 months ago I owned a lovely Octy RS, it was my pride and joy, but family came in the way of it, and I ended up with a Citreon Picasso Diesel ! - What a friggin mistake that was ! Anyway, last week my local skoda dealer mailed me to say I can have a brand new Octy RS Mk1 for £12,800 which seems a bit of a bargain, but I am tempted to wait for the new one in the new year, what do you think.... __________________ Black Octy vRS, Almost standard!

13-11-2005, 15:57	#2
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,756 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 30 Thanked 195 Times in 146 Posts	The new octy will be very good , but thats an extra five grand on the cost of a Mk1 , and I'd rather have the money to spend on something else. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

13-11-2005, 16:09	#3
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 15,256 Members Car: 4x4 turbo estate Thanks: 17 Thanked 144 Times in 125 Posts	mk1 vRS £12,800 KW coil overs £1,000 FMIC £1,000 turbo back exhaust £600 E05 turbo from IP £1,750 DS 2500 pads £100 total £17,450 i know what i'd get __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

13-11-2005, 16:10	#4
delcac Still a **** Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Chatham, Kent Posts: 7,396 Members Car: A red one Images: 3 Thanks: 17 Thanked 70 Times in 55 Posts	Hmmm I wonder what I could do with a new Mk1 Octy vRS and 5K. __________________ The Red Devil

13-11-2005, 16:17	#5
garym2000 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 146 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, still not sure though, 5K is a massive saving but I presume depreciation will be worse on the old one too, so after 3 years or so, the new one would be worth far more? __________________ Black Octy vRS, Almost standard!

13-11-2005, 16:54	#8
JMK2 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cheshire Near the Cat Posts: 867 Members Car: New Fabia 1 60 BHP Thanks: 23 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	From the reviews IMHO the Mk1 is a better bet. I personally prefer to wait for a year after a new car is launched (exception is a Fabia SDi - Fabia had been out a year and SDi was an established engine). However even that had a couple of gremlins - all sorted quickly. That being said this is a run out car and may have been built with more care. I'd go for it if I had the cash. __________________ I would like to put something here, but just can't think what

13-11-2005, 17:54	#10
garym2000 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 146 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the advice. I suppose it's down to which car is likely to be better, and I can only suppose it will be the newer model, however the old vRS is a hard act to beat. __________________ Black Octy vRS, Almost standard!

13-11-2005, 18:20	#11
oldeboi Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norfolk/Suffolk Posts: 156 Members Car: Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	I had the same dilema, the thing that swung it for me was the fact that it is to be a long term affair so deppreciation wouldnt be a consideration, not to mention the fact that although my 1.6 was a great car, i had always promised myself an RS and regretted not doing it right first time!

13-11-2005, 23:26	#12
Johnnyc Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,193 Members Car: MkV Golf 1.9 TDI Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Up until yesterday I would have said wait for the new one but have you seen the the black 2004 mkI that just went up for sale on here. Really beautiful car. The MkI is great value and it sounds like a good deal but why not take the MkII Sport out for a test drive anyway and then imagine it with 1/3 more power. Also compare specs on the toys front. Skoda it would seem have been a bit mean with the standard spec of the new vRS. __________________ Johnny "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."

13-11-2005, 23:39	#13
andy2407 Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Upper Ramsbottom Posts: 5,594 Members Car: Yellow Fabia vRS Thanks: 59 Thanked 224 Times in 181 Posts	If they are mentioning £12,800 in a mail-shot, I'm sure you could get closer to £12/12.5k if you wave some cash at the salesman. Can't believe the price they quote in a letter will be their bottom line. Its a bargin - go for it! __________________ The future's bright The future's mellow Now with a little zest of Washbrook added

15-11-2005, 16:14	#14
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 8,277 Members Car: Golf PD105 Thanks: 187 Thanked 248 Times in 184 Posts	A bargain to be had most definately but I think you could drive them down even further!!. My local dealer was selling Mk1 Octy VRS's for £11.5k not so long ago. Beat the dealers with a stick if you decide to go for it!!. Good luck on whatever you decide. __________________ Superchips Bluefin only £390 @ JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinxmas2008.htm

16-11-2005, 00:13	#16
garym2000 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 146 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	There has also been mention of a Diesel Octy vRS, has anyone got the performance specs? __________________ Black Octy vRS, Almost standard!

16-11-2005, 00:15	#17
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,756 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 30 Thanked 195 Times in 146 Posts	It will be the same 168bhp engine as will be fitted in the new Passat. No performance specs have been released yet. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

16-11-2005, 06:42	#18
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,717 Members Car: Nissan 350Z Twin Turbo Also Octavia 1.9 TDI L&K & Superb td 140 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts	I would go for it, the "Classic" Octy is a proven excellent car & if moneys tight anyway you know you will be getting an excellent affordable car for good money. Who knows how good the new age Octy RS will be, Ive heard a lot of winges about build quality on the new Octys, lots of rattles & squeeks from the trim. Weve tried only one so far, an L&K and there were rattles everywhere, Im hoping that was just a bad one othetrwise it might not be a Skoda to replace our current L&K __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

16-11-2005, 09:49	#19
Johnnyc Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,193 Members Car: MkV Golf 1.9 TDI Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	It will be pricey though. Read an article lately in which they compared the Jetta 140bhp & 170(168)bhp versions. The 170 was slightly quicker to 60 but the difference between the 2 was almost unnoticeable at speed. The 170 was also a bit of a dog to drive as it is even more peaky than the 140. Personally in your shoes i'd go for the 140 elegance with sports suspension and uprated alloys. You would get lots more toys than the vRS and if you wanted to to swap out the grlle, front and rear bumpers at a later stage you can. __________________ Johnny "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."

16-11-2005, 09:51	#20
Johnnyc Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,193 Members Car: MkV Golf 1.9 TDI Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Also expect a drop of 10% economy in the vRS TDi. Not worth it IMO __________________ Johnny "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."

16-11-2005, 10:08	#21
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,722 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	£12k for a 146mph car with loads of kit.I'd say thats a bit of a bargain.

19-11-2005, 23:27	#25
garym2000 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 146 Members Car: Octy vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Should I wait for the New RS... Thanks everyone, MK1 octy I think is the way forward, used to have one, wish I had never let it go... ! __________________ Black Octy vRS, Almost standard!

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