Soundproofing - Any Suggestions?

JohnMorr · 12-01-2006, 20:15

Is the Octy 2 diesel (2.0 Tdi) as well soundproofed as possible, or are there firms out there who can make a real difference? I'd willingly spend a few hundred (hush rather than rush) for a tranquil decade to come...

YeeHaa2.0TDI · 12-01-2006, 21:14

You always do more; use damping sheets (available from bodyshop suppliers or large factors) to stick to any flat sheet of metal e.g. floor panels, boot floor. Use expander foam in any nooks and crannies, pillars and sills(avoiding seat belt units etc).
Then use soundproofing wadding cut to shape under the vehicle carpet; especially under the front carpets, and under the boot carpet and rear seats.

Hours of fun stripping your new Skoda to a bare shell

***DGW*** · 12-01-2006, 21:17

Noisekiller UK (below) produces soundproofing kits for cars, including Skoda. It might be worth contacting them to see what they offer for the Octavia II.

http://www.noisekiller.co.uk/sound_p...g_vehicles.php

JohnMorr · 12-01-2006, 21:36

Thanks - I've got onto them already and will be interested in their response. Only disturbing factor is that they also sell one of those woo-woo magnet things for your fuel line - sheer nonsence, IMHO.

ednmra · 12-01-2006, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMorr

Thanks - I've got onto them already and will be interested in their response. Only disturbing factor is that they also sell one of those woo-woo magnet things for your fuel line - sheer nonsence, IMHO.

Agreed - about as much use as magnetic bracelets for arthritis [bet that starts an argument! ]

But about sound - mine is very quiet, is that because it is petrol???

WW_VRS · 12-01-2006, 23:40

The petrol is more quiet than the PD engine for sure, mainly to do with blasting in fuel at VERY high pressure etc.

I used soundkiller too, got him to fit it for me in the carpark at work in Bracknell

The main effect is to muffle the sound, and it does have a good impact IMHO. The second bit of sound proofing I did was the PDxxx cover from seat, dunno if that's suitable for your car as well, it fitted the Fabia vRS though.

Other things that may contribute to more noise are the tyres - the lower the profile the more noisy they appear to be for roadnoise, which then gets passed into the cabin.

JohnMorr · 13-01-2006, 12:27

Thanks all - I'm now in contact with Soundkiller who say:

"We do a octavia kit £165 inc vat. Factory fitting (Manchester) £90 inc vat
Mobile fitting £130 inc vat"

The testimonials on their site are good, though they do seem mainly to be from Land Rover or motorhome owners, who would certainly benefit more from soundproofing than an Octy! But I still think I'll go for it...

WW VRS - what, pray is a PDxxx cover?

WW_VRS · 13-01-2006, 13:51

It is a couple of bits of moulded foam with a few metal bits in to allow the bits of foam to stay together & rotate. The moulded foam goes underneath the plastic engine cover, over the top of the engine. It fits on the PD100 and PD130 engines for sure. I'd be surprised if it was suitable to petrol engines.

The effect of it is to dampen the worst clatter noises at their source (the injectors).

Bigw2069 · 13-01-2006, 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_VRS

It is a couple of bits of moulded foam with a few metal bits in to allow the bits of foam to stay together & rotate. The moulded foam goes underneath the plastic engine cover, over the top of the engine. It fits on the PD100 and PD130 engines for sure. I'd be surprised if it was suitable to petrol engines.

The effect of it is to dampen the worst clatter noises at their source (the injectors).

Sounds interesting

Goochie · 13-01-2006, 14:29

On the Octavia, the TDi under bonnet sound proofing fits directly to the underside of the bonnet. This means it will fit straight onto a pterol model.

WW_VRS · 13-01-2006, 14:34

Just to clarify - the Furby already has soundproofing under the bonnet - soundkiller adds another bunch of the stuff there too. The PD1xx is extra and goes under the plastic engine cover. As for pics - I haven't got any handy at the moment

Might be worth checking out the following Briskoda threads though:

this one
some more info including the part number and price at the time (original thread)

Then on SeatCupra.net there are some pics, that shows it

Pics in thread here

Stuart_J · 13-01-2006, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMorr

Thanks all - I'm now in contact with Soundkiller who say:

"We do a octavia kit £165 inc vat. Factory fitting (Manchester) £90 inc vat
Mobile fitting £130 inc vat"

The testimonials on their site are good, though they do seem mainly to be from Land Rover or motorhome owners, who would certainly benefit more from soundproofing than an Octy! But I still think I'll go for it...

WW VRS - what, pray is a PDxxx cover?

They did my Impreza Wagon a few years ago after I had got fed up with the drone from the fully decated Exhaust & did a brilliant job, If its any help I would recomend steve 101%

WW_VRS · 13-01-2006, 16:42

Standard Fabia vRS myself and I felt it was worth it, the reduction in noise is subtle in some ways but very much noticable & I totally agree with Stuart - Steve's a nice guy and he did an excellent job on my car too

slider · 13-01-2006, 20:02

Just make sure you don't get an Octy on Bridgestone tyres!!!!!!!!

I find my car pretty silent apart from the tyre noise, I believe those on Michelens are much quieter.

Tom_vRS · 13-01-2006, 20:46

I have been in touch with Steve, and feel slightly guilty for wasting his time

Whilst I'm sure the kit is not only effective, but also reasonably priced - I decided to do some research and have a no-compromise job done myself. I want to eliminate as much noise as possible, but also deaden where possible to - all ready for a top sound quality stereo install.

I have a bulk pack of Brown bread which is the deadening - it will absorb any panel vibrations caused by speakers etc. I will also purchase 2 rolls of SAPT220 which is a sound proofing material used in machinery. Its not cheap, and is bloody heavy, but will sure do a good job of reducing cabin noise. Its highly recommended on car audio forums.

devonutopia · 13-01-2006, 21:40

I might do another thorough coating of laminate flooring underlay on my front doors. Pikey mod #2647

JohnMorr · 14-01-2006, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom_vRS

I have been in touch with Steve, and feel slightly guilty for wasting his time

Whilst I'm sure the kit is not only effective, but also reasonably priced - I decided to do some research and have a no-compromise job done myself. I want to eliminate as much noise as possible, but also deaden where possible to - all ready for a top sound quality stereo install.

I have a bulk pack of Brown bread which is the deadening - it will absorb any panel vibrations caused by speakers etc. I will also purchase 2 rolls of SAPT220 which is a sound proofing material used in machinery. Its not cheap, and is bloody heavy, but will sure do a good job of reducing cabin noise. Its highly recommended on car audio forums.

Make sure it's wholemeal Brown Bread, Tom! Can you point us towards suppliers?

primey · 14-01-2006, 22:54

You could always try these.

The latest ear plug from E•A•R,
replacing the hugely successful
RiDE Best Buy E•A•R Supersoft,

The E•A•R Soft is easy to roll,
does not expand too quickly
and is extremely comfortable to wear.
Comfort with less pressure
Tapered, Long and Soft

OL: 27mm • IL: 27mm • SNR = 36dB .

Cheapest soundproofing I could find. Full range and prices available here! http://www.calamander.co.uk/earplugs/ear.htm

Some of them look like Dildo's!!

You can get a mixed test pack for a tenner. Hmmm, Value.....

JohnMorr · 15-01-2006, 13:38

Earplugs for soundproofing, eh? Not such a silly idea....

I seem to remember a US Hi-Fi magazine (?Stereophile?) which had a column on in-car audio. Someone recommended a powerful system combined with earplugs. The earplugs cut out the car noise, and you simply turned up the audio to the required perceived level!

But pretty awful for the car next to you in a traffic jam.

golfturbo · 15-01-2006, 18:09

Has anyone done their doors? Mine just don't seem to cope with the Audience system

Tom_vRS · 15-01-2006, 20:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMorr

Make sure it's wholemeal Brown Bread, Tom! Can you point us towards suppliers?

I bought a brown bread premium bulk pack @ £99.99 from CAD

Can't remember the link for the SAPT220 - but its only available direct from the supplier at around £80 a roll - works out at £200 posted for 2 rolls- which is a huge amount really!

Johnnyc · 16-01-2006, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ednmra

Agreed - about as much use as magnetic bracelets for arthritis [bet that starts an argument! ]

Somebody looking an arguement?

I'd be fooked with back pain without my magnetic bracelet. All I know is if i take it off for a day i'll spend 3 days in agony with it on again before i'm pain free. When the pain starts to kick in and I wonder why, I feel sick when I realise that I forgot to put it on again.

I got mine on Ebay. It was pretty cheap so the gold is now flaking off and cutting the crap out of my wrist. Infection may follow so i'd better get a new one but this one won't be coming off until i get it. It's just not worth it.

For the record I had to wear it for 3 weeks before it was fully effective. Maybe it is just in my mind as the sceptics say. I don't care, whatever it is works.

JohnMorr · 16-01-2006, 13:42

Not looking for an argument - if it works for you and alleviates your back pain, great. The placebo effect is a marvellous thing, but that's just what it is.

Having said which, please don't stop believing in your magnetic bracelet - write me off as a congenital sceptic.

But have you thought of the possibility of divine assistance in other areas?

http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/plastic0.htm

golfturbo · 18-01-2006, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfturbo

Has anyone done their doors? Mine just don't seem to cope with the Audience system

Anyone done thier doors?

G.K. · 19-01-2006, 11:16

No, not yet, but seriously thinking about it. I aggree that the audience system fairly gets the door trims rattling. Funny that I can stand the music Loud but a wee rattle.... UNBEARABLE!!!

12-01-2006, 20:15	#1
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Members Car: Octavia II L&K 2.0 TDi DSG with lots of bells and whistles. Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Is the Octy 2 diesel (2.0 Tdi) as well soundproofed as possible, or are there firms out there who can make a real difference? I'd willingly spend a few hundred (hush rather than rush) for a tranquil decade to come...

12-01-2006, 21:17	#3
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Noisekiller UK (below) produces soundproofing kits for cars, including Skoda. It might be worth contacting them to see what they offer for the Octavia II. http://www.noisekiller.co.uk/sound_p...g_vehicles.php __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

12-01-2006, 21:36	#4
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Members Car: Octavia II L&K 2.0 TDi DSG with lots of bells and whistles. Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Thanks - I've got onto them already and will be interested in their response. Only disturbing factor is that they also sell one of those woo-woo magnet things for your fuel line - sheer nonsence, IMHO.

12-01-2006, 23:40	#6
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,874 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? The petrol is more quiet than the PD engine for sure, mainly to do with blasting in fuel at VERY high pressure etc. I used soundkiller too, got him to fit it for me in the carpark at work in Bracknell The main effect is to muffle the sound, and it does have a good impact IMHO. The second bit of sound proofing I did was the PDxxx cover from seat, dunno if that's suitable for your car as well, it fitted the Fabia vRS though. Other things that may contribute to more noise are the tyres - the lower the profile the more noisy they appear to be for roadnoise, which then gets passed into the cabin. __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

13-01-2006, 12:27	#7
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Members Car: Octavia II L&K 2.0 TDi DSG with lots of bells and whistles. Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Thanks all - I'm now in contact with Soundkiller who say: "We do a octavia kit £165 inc vat. Factory fitting (Manchester) £90 inc vat Mobile fitting £130 inc vat" The testimonials on their site are good, though they do seem mainly to be from Land Rover or motorhome owners, who would certainly benefit more from soundproofing than an Octy! But I still think I'll go for it... WW VRS - what, pray is a PDxxx cover?

12-01-2006, 21:14	#2
YeeHaa2.0TDI Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: s yorks Posts: 140 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? You always do more; use damping sheets (available from bodyshop suppliers or large factors) to stick to any flat sheet of metal e.g. floor panels, boot floor. Use expander foam in any nooks and crannies, pillars and sills(avoiding seat belt units etc). Then use soundproofing wadding cut to shape under the vehicle carpet; especially under the front carpets, and under the boot carpet and rear seats. Hours of fun stripping your new Skoda to a bare shell __________________ Buy the ticket, take the ride

13-01-2006, 13:51	#8
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,874 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? It is a couple of bits of moulded foam with a few metal bits in to allow the bits of foam to stay together & rotate. The moulded foam goes underneath the plastic engine cover, over the top of the engine. It fits on the PD100 and PD130 engines for sure. I'd be surprised if it was suitable to petrol engines. The effect of it is to dampen the worst clatter noises at their source (the injectors). __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

13-01-2006, 14:29	#10
Goochie Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Up a tree. Posts: 12,363 Members Car: Thanks: 7 Thanked 27 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? On the Octavia, the TDi under bonnet sound proofing fits directly to the underside of the bonnet. This means it will fit straight onto a pterol model.

13-01-2006, 14:34	#11
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,874 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Just to clarify - the Furby already has soundproofing under the bonnet - soundkiller adds another bunch of the stuff there too. The PD1xx is extra and goes under the plastic engine cover. As for pics - I haven't got any handy at the moment Might be worth checking out the following Briskoda threads though: this one some more info including the part number and price at the time (original thread) Then on SeatCupra.net there are some pics, that shows it Pics in thread here __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here Last edited by WW_VRS; 13-01-2006 at 14:38.

13-01-2006, 16:42	#13
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,874 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Standard Fabia vRS myself and I felt it was worth it, the reduction in noise is subtle in some ways but very much noticable & I totally agree with Stuart - Steve's a nice guy and he did an excellent job on my car too __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

13-01-2006, 20:02	#14
slider Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Scottish Borders Posts: 683 Members Car: Octavia Elegance 1.9tdi DSG Thanks: 7 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Just make sure you don't get an Octy on Bridgestone tyres!!!!!!!! I find my car pretty silent apart from the tyre noise, I believe those on Michelens are much quieter. __________________ The man with no sig thingy BMW 118d M Sport Past cars - OctaviaII 1.9TDI DSG, OctaviaI 1.9 TDi, Focus TD Est, Rover 418 TD, Montego TD, Cavalier D, Astra 1.3, Escort Mexico Mk1 (still to be beaten for fun), Viva 1.3, Simca 1100

13-01-2006, 20:46	#15
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? I have been in touch with Steve, and feel slightly guilty for wasting his time Whilst I'm sure the kit is not only effective, but also reasonably priced - I decided to do some research and have a no-compromise job done myself. I want to eliminate as much noise as possible, but also deaden where possible to - all ready for a top sound quality stereo install. I have a bulk pack of Brown bread which is the deadening - it will absorb any panel vibrations caused by speakers etc. I will also purchase 2 rolls of SAPT220 which is a sound proofing material used in machinery. Its not cheap, and is bloody heavy, but will sure do a good job of reducing cabin noise. Its highly recommended on car audio forums. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green.

13-01-2006, 21:40	#16
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,103 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? I might do another thorough coating of laminate flooring underlay on my front doors. Pikey mod #2647 __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

14-01-2006, 22:54	#18
primey Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 841 Members Car: Silver Octavia vRS Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? You could always try these. The latest ear plug from E•A•R, replacing the hugely successful RiDE Best Buy E•A•R Supersoft, The E•A•R Soft is easy to roll, does not expand too quickly and is extremely comfortable to wear. Comfort with less pressure Tapered, Long and Soft OL: 27mm • IL: 27mm • SNR = 36dB . Cheapest soundproofing I could find. Full range and prices available here! http://www.calamander.co.uk/earplugs/ear.htm Some of them look like Dildo's!! You can get a mixed test pack for a tenner. Hmmm, Value..... __________________ Paul My Car - Nightfire Blue Superb - 2.5 V6 TDi - Dark Leather Interior - Xenons - Serious Pimp Tints - Sat Nav - Detchable Towbar - Green Cotton Panel Filter - MINTEX Xtreme Performance Brake Pads - Chrome Wing Mirrors - 18" New RS4 Rims - Neuspeed Lower Rear ARB - Pipewerx Custom Stainless Exhaust with 200cel Cat - Custom Code PHASE II Remap - Huge Smile - Can my bank account keep up? ...

15-01-2006, 13:38	#19
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Members Car: Octavia II L&K 2.0 TDi DSG with lots of bells and whistles. Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Earplugs for soundproofing, eh? Not such a silly idea.... I seem to remember a US Hi-Fi magazine (?Stereophile?) which had a column on in-car audio. Someone recommended a powerful system combined with earplugs. The earplugs cut out the car noise, and you simply turned up the audio to the required perceived level! But pretty awful for the car next to you in a traffic jam.

15-01-2006, 18:09	#20
golfturbo Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 654 Members Car: '05 Skoda Octavia 2.0TDi DSK L&K Estate Thanks: 7 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Has anyone done their doors? Mine just don't seem to cope with the Audience system __________________ 58 Audi A4 B8 Avant S-Line \| 2.0 TDI 143 Multitronic \| Ibis White \| 19's \| Nav \| Advanced Bluetooth Prep \| Leather/Alcantara \| Tints \| Advanced Parking System \| AMI \| MMI 02 Golf 1.8T \| Diamond Black \| Xenons \| Sunroof \| 17” Santa's \| 20mm Spacers \| H&R -40mm \| S3 Strut Braces \| W8 Light \| Tints \| .:R32 Front Bumper \| Smoothed Rear \| Ani Skirts \| Milltek Cat Back \| Custom Air Intake \| Revo'd & loads more!

16-01-2006, 13:42	#23
JohnMorr Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 336 Members Car: Octavia II L&K 2.0 TDi DSG with lots of bells and whistles. Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? Not looking for an argument - if it works for you and alleviates your back pain, great. The placebo effect is a marvellous thing, but that's just what it is. Having said which, *please* don't stop believing in your magnetic bracelet - write me off as a congenital sceptic. But have you thought of the possibility of divine assistance in other areas? http://www.guntheranderson.com/v/data/plastic0.htm

19-01-2006, 11:16	#25
G.K. Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perthshire Scotland Posts: 208 Members Car: 2008 Octavia 2.0 Tdi L&K Estate Thanks: 50 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Soundproofing - Any Suggestions? No, not yet, but seriously thinking about it. I aggree that the audience system fairly gets the door trims rattling. Funny that I can stand the music Loud but a wee rattle.... UNBEARABLE!!!

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