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cheezemonkhai

Orangina is your friend

Orangina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Babs

I drink a few cans of Diet Coke a day, coupled with apple juice and a lot of water.

Never felt any ill effects at all!

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JRHartley

More scare mongering but not without some truth... IMHO


Aspartame is made from methylation of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. Digestion breaks these down and will liberate methanol. However the amount of methanol produced by the small of aspartame added to fizzy drinks is far less than is naturally generated by the digestion of fruit and vegetables. Natural stomach acid will have taken care of the small amount of methanol long before. So all that bunkum about formic acid and methanol poisoning...rubbish. An equal amount of fruit juice will contain a considerably larger amount of methanol than the same amount of diet drink.

IMO where the health concerns appear to have some validity is other the amino acid... phenylalanine. There are a small number of people who a disease called phenylketonuria [usually inherited] and have difficulty in breaking down this amino acid and their bodies allow it to accumulate in their system. This appears to cause health complications if your one of those people who are sensitive to it. Some dairy produce has phenylalanine naturally present and it is thought to be one reason wny some people have dairy intolerance. Aspartame , because it contains Phenylalanine, appears to have been be the easy target for these health accusations but personally I would be looking to avoid any products with Phenylalanine in them.. These are not just the Diet drinks but the low-caffiene drinks [phenylalanine is also used as a caffiene substitute as it has similar 'stimulate' properties.]

If you are, or suspect that you are, sensitive to aspartame take a look for phenylalanine on its own as well.

again, just my opinion.

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Octoplus

Lots of references available on this page : https://www.shopholistic.co.uk/viewdoc_61.php

I worked with Pepsi for many years and diet drinks/drinks containing aspartame are banned from this household. I know first hand what this stuff can do to you even in small quantities. Do NOT let your kids near it.

ncarring

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Octoplus

Snopes are hardly the world health authority and that posting is 2 years out of date.

It never ceases to amaze me that people are happy to debunk something that appears on many websites as "internet rubbish" then go and post the Snopes pages as if that is some definitive authority ...... it is not.

The Deadly Deception of Aspartame

ASPARTAME

Aspartame Is An Excitoneurotoxic Carcinogenic Drug!

pittVRS

Thanks for scaring the sh*t out of me Lady E! I drink my tea with candarel instead of sugar, I've just looked and it's chock full of aspartame!

Right, I'm sticking to beer and wine from now on then.

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Babs

I'm still alive... I'll keep you all posted

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ncarring

... and then there are those who post scaremongering articles as if THEY are the definitive authority

If the Snopes article is 2 years old, it shows this scare tactic about aspartame is also quite long in the tooth, and hardly needs reposting again (with respect to Lady E), without at least some investigation and counter argument taking place.

What Snopes is, however, is largely impartial. If you scroll to the bottom of the Snopes page, you'll find several links to rather more serious organisations - like The Lancet, where you can read some more scientific information about the issue.

HTH

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cheezemonkhai

If you show me an article which is in a scientific or medical journal and has undergone some peer review I *may* pay it some attention.

Until then anybody can write a website and it's even better if you do it in comic sans, as then everyone knows how serious you are

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rurwin

Men who drink 2 cans or more of non-diet soft drink per day, are 85% more likely to get gout, (and at over 1% incidence that isn't as unlikely as you think.)

Diet soft drinks, on the other hand, do not.

Soft drinks, fructose consumption, and the risk of gout in men: prospective cohort study

Oh, and the same paper implicates beer and fruit too.

Lady Elanore

Sounds like a good plan, better add whisky to that diet too. Thank God Babs is still OK

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Babs

Basically... no matter what we do, we're f*cked!

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Mrs Stig

I don't think it is as our lad has ADHD (Hyperactivity) and quite a few things can really make him go, but the worst is artificial sweetener - either aspartame or phenylalanine. THese make him go realllllllllly loopy

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DaveHarries

I respect the right of people to say what they like (unless it is racist, which your post isn't) but that reply gets on my nerves. Read on before you wonder why....

Speaking from personal experience, I think there is something in it. Let me explain. I apologise if this bit is rather long but it may be worth reading.

In July 2007 I booked up to go to Amsterdam for an all-night dance music gig. I made a few days of the trip and had a great time. However, the Saturday after I got back I awoke with stomach spasms and felt as ill as hell. My Mum took me down to the A&E department at the local hospital later in the afternoon. The nurse suggested I try some anti-spasm tablets to see if that helped. And they did.....to start with.

After about a week or so the pills were having no effect. I went to the GP and blood samples were taken. I rang the practice for the results and the practice said "all clear: nothing unusual". Blatent rubbish.

Anyway, I kept on going back to the GP (who, as it turned out, was an idiot - of which more later) and tests kept on being done. They resorted to stool and blood tests but the results, according to the practice, kept on coming back with an all clear.

Eventually the GP I had been seeing went on holiday for 2 weeks which was to my good fortune. My case was passed to a female GP who was on-the-ball by all accounts. She looked through the file that, the day of my appointment at the BRI, she rang up at 8am as she was so concerned at what she read in the file. However, eventually I started loosing weight. My Mum, when she noticed this and spoke to her boss who is Vice-Chancellor of the university. He, fortunately, has been a surgeon and professor of mediciene in his time. When my Mum described the symptoms (I wasn't there) he knew what the problem was there and then and rang up, fixing me an appointment in the hospital for 8:30am next morning with a consultant he knew very well.

The consultant also had a good idea what it was. He examined me, feeling my stomach. More blood samples were taken and this time they were analysed properly. These confirmed the consultant's suspiscions and the diagnosis, at the next appointment, was given as Crohn's Disease: inflamation of the bowel to the extent that it was contacting with my bladder and a join was starting to form between the two. Which, of course, shouldn't have been happening.

In short, over the course of the period between August 2007 and July 2008 I ended up having two operations to correct the problem and, between the operations, the way I could take a s*** was altered. I won't be graphic but it wasn't fun.

I made an appointment with the female GP in September 2007 and decided I would lodge a complaint with the male GP (the one who went on holiday) I had been seeing when the saga had kicked off. I made it clear that I never wanted to see that male GP ever again. The lady GP was very understanding and informed me that there was a review meeting coming up and my case was one of those up for review. I was offered the chance to be present at the meeting and make a statement but I declined. I don't know why I did decline that invitiation. I gather, from a subsequent appointment earlier this year, that plenty of failings were spotted and alterations have been made to various rules at the practice as a result.

After reading that lot I have written up there, you have two options:

a) If you think I am talking bulls*** then go ahead: carry on drinking Diet Coke / Pepsi and you will, sooner or later, possibly find yourself going down a road that will take you on a long trip through hell before it brings you back again. You may find it will be a one-way road: no turning back. I still have the CD but I am better than I was.

b) If you are sensible then you will take the piece of advice that is at the end of my message. I have not touched any drink with the word "Diet" on its label since August 2007 and it will stay that way.

DON'T IGNORE WARNINGS ON ASPARTAME: IF YOU DO IGNORE THEM THEN, ONE DAY, YOU MAY END UP REGRETTING IT - AS I DID.

Dave

ncarring

Dave, eloquent as your message is, it proves no link with Aspartame. What made you think it was related?

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Lady Elanore

Dave you don’t say how the connection between the CD and Diet pop was made.



Oooops, what he said above

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