Stuart_J

I didn't come up with this idea, but saw it on several other forums and thought it worthy an idea to spread around. I remember it loosely being tried by some people last time, but its an idea that won't work without everyones (or at least a greater percentage) involvement.

Crux of message is below:





This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy petrol on a certain day"

campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just

laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves

by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it

was a problem for them.





BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can

really work. Please read it and join in!



Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to

think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP at 77p -80p, we need to take

aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace not

sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers

need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of

petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing

their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the

idea:



For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two

biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not

selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If

they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Esso and

BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me

at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach

millions of people! I am sending this note to a; lot of people. If each

of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300

send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the

time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have

reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited

and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have

been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it..... THREE

HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!! Again, all you have to do is send this to 10

people. That's

all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us

sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all

300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8

days!!! I'll bet you didn't think you and I had that much potential, did

you! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to

you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR

PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE


Action:

It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your

petrol at Shell, Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons (75p)Jet etc. i.e. boycott

BP and Esso.

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Dr Zoidberg

AAArrrrrghhh!!!

This rubbish was doing the rounds last time , and it's just that... rubbish.

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Stimps

Playing Devil's Advocate...

The price is high because our government has conditioned us that 50p/litre (or whatever it is now) is reasonable to pay in tax. Why not boycott all government services instead?

OPEC don't help, but if you controlled the majority of oil, would you look out for joe public, or line your pockets even more?

I'll be going to Esso and BP in future - sounds like the queues will be shorter...

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Stuart_J

just thought I would post it to stir up some comments, it all seems a bit quiet on Briskoda these days!!

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Stimps

No probs - I know you're not the author

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MonkeyHanger

I never use Esso or BP anyway (unless i have no other option), they always seem to be more expensive

C.J.

Would love to say something.
But no. Wouldn't like to spoil the tranquility really.

TaviaRS

It's bolleaux, in my humble opinion

We can't win.

BP and Esso own most of the refineries so will get the money back from other sources.

The chancellor drops the tax on petrol. He'll just get it back from another source I'm afraid.

Actually, put it up to £1 per litre and price the poor off the roads At least then I won't need to sit in so many traffic jams.

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Stuart_J

CJ go on pleeeeeeeeeease

So Jon, now youve got a Diesel you are going to campaign for higher fuel prices & rub it in !!

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kennyhkw

Blame the government, sod all to do with anyone else.

In USA its under 30p per litre.

Its our governement that doesnt give a toss as long as the money is rolling in.

They jus keep on taxing.

Y should the tax cost more than the item? Ask yourself that.

If you bought toilet roll at £1 for 4 rolls and the tax was £4 u would b rather upset! £5 for 4 bog roll!!! Now that would b an eye opener.

Thats the ratio for petrol at the moment.

Car owners pay over £1K a year in JUST TAX! To keep there cars on the road.

TaviaRS

For 1 litre of petrol, the petrol companies currently make 3.4p / litre profit.
When you pay 89.9p / litre, 86.5p of that is cost (supply, tax, duty etc).
The supply cost from the refineries currently runs at 19.7p / litre.
So at 0% tax, the cost is 19.7p.
At 100% tax, the cost is 39.4p.
At 200% tax, the cost is 59.1p.
At 300% tax, the cost is 78.8p.
At 340% tax, the cost is 86.5p
add on the 3.4p profit margin and there's your 89.9p litre.


I've gone from the 30 mpg Optimax fuelled average in my RS, to 52 mpg Diesel fuelled average in my new one. The price of diesel is also 4p a litre cheaper. Still doing the same distances at the same speeds. I consider it to be an annual £3500 pay rise before tax, given the miles I do.

Don't complain if you get low mpg.

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flyingscot

In competing with the supermarkets the oil companies actually make very little in theis country compaired to other parts of their business. If you boycotted BP they wouldn't really care. Petrol to the oil companies is a loss leader.

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Colin

To come second is to be the first of the losers!

JaneC

The goverment make heaps of dosh from the tax on fuel, if this was reduced to make the motorists happy then the Chancellor would only have to find another way of raising the same amount.

So you may pay less for the fuel but would be hit for at least an equal amount on something else.

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fen_l&k

<Controversial mode>

Umm - cigarettes? Sounds like a plan to me... Double whammy as we wouldn't have to spend so much treating smokers in the hospitals either.

</Controversial mode>

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Stimps

Smokers fund the gov't enough as it is though...

Perhaps a new system of fuel costs related to your MPG. The higher it is, the more you'll travel, so you should pay more

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JaneC

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GAFF

In Ireland its something like over 55% of the price of the fuel is tax, so when the price at the pumps goes up by 20cent the Government are getting over 10cent of that. They are making a fortune out of the rise in price of petrol, making more than the petrol companies are which doesn't make sense. They should put a cap on the tax on a litre when the prices rise above a certain value.

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MonkeyHanger

I seem to recall a news item that stated the current price situation in the UK will make in the region of £2billion extra for the Treasury.....

At least **** Turpin had the decency to wear a mask

JaneC

Much the same argument could be made for VAT rated goods.

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Gwilo

.<RANT MODE>
..like the abolition of the VAT threshold on imported items....
Used the be the case that anything with a value under, IIRC, £20ish, didn't get charged VAT when it hit the shores.
Great for CD's, Inks, Software etc.
But then the Treasury realised that with the Internet, millions where using this to sidestep financing Govt policies that no one wanted....
So, they abolished this, meaning everything you had brought in became liable for VAT.
I was blissfully unaware of this till I downloaded some software over the net from the states - I got hit for 17.5% as a UK buyer.
Then imagine my horror when i tried to import a guitar...the Customs line was "Sure you can import it. WE will add 6% to it's value when it gets here as an import tax on the guitar itself. Then we'll add 17.5% to that total cost. Oh, and don't forget to add 17.5% to the shipping cost too, plus a nominal "admin" fee for release documents, thats about £20, plus VAT...."
My cheap USA spec Fender became almost as expensive as a Custom Shop model.....
<RANT MODE OVERDRIVE>
I agree the fuel taxation costs in this country are ridiculous, but whichever way you cut it, the motorist will be hit for the same or more money year on year. Why? Because we all know the public transport infrastructure is shambolic, over-crowded, and expensive. I don't want to get to the train-station for 7am in the morning, pay over £5 to shoe-horn my body onto a woefully inadequate two-carriage train to Manchester (which really needs to be a four carriage at that time, and the Health & safety issues have been pointed out to the operator, who ignores them), only to get in at work around 8:30. The return journey is often moved/cancelled from the nhearest stop at work, so you can spend more time waiting around.
Buses, frankly, annoy me, as I only ever see them belching out clouds of foul smeeling black smoke (do they EVER service their engines?!! - No diesel i've ever seen is THAT filthy) cost nearly as much and usually smell of widdle.
The Govt know we don't want to be handcuffed to such pathetic transport, and so are quite happy to fleece us. And we're complicit in our acceptance of this, as despite our anger, we know there isn't a truly viable alternative.

<RANT ENGINE KILL SWITCH>
Phew..........

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robmawer

And where does that VAT go? Into Europe. Europe then decide we don't need as much as other countries, such as Spain, so we don't get as much back as we put in.
Now, in Spain you get to sleep for most of the afternoon, and a pack of 200 B&H (manufactured over here and exported) costs about £13...instead of the £50-or-so it costs in this country. You can also fish in British waters and then sell your catch to the British. And hoardes of British tourists go to Spain and spend a fortune while on holiday.

Something's not right...


Rob.

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Stuart_J

IM STILL LIVING IN THIS ********* COUNTRY !!!!!!!

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Tavia4x4

Surprisingly, I have to rate the trains at the moment. I used to leave around 7am to get into work for 9.. cost me £5.10 for parking + petrol. I now leave the house at 8.05, walk to the train station and catch a train for 8.19, which gets me to my station at 8.41, a short walk to the office and it costs me £5 a day. Saved time, money, and can surf the web \ send emails etc whilst sat there.


Before I changed to the trains, when I drove to Nynex \ victoria, I'd then jump on a free bus that would take me to the office on the opp side of manchester - when the service is free you can't really complain?

I have to say, in this region at least, public transport is working quite well.

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spinndrift

Saw a quality bus in Liverpool this morning with diesel pouring out of the underneath as it hurtled along the road.

I'd use public transport to get to work but I'd end up on the school run bus.

As it is three of us car share so I don't bother.

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