skodagirl1985

Do you think it is right for employees to go on Strike?

I'm just wondering because the signal workers from Network Rail are striking this week in Scotland on 2 24 hour walk outs. I don't think its right myself for them to strike as it will make it difficult for me and lots of other commutor in Scotland to get to and from work.

What are you opions on Industrial Action?

redbaron

sack em all the minute they go on strike,

mind you it would be lots of overtime for all the coppers so maybe its a good thing - I used to love watching my dad on TV kicking seven shades out of the pinko miner's back in 84.....

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Bigw2069

The fact you are upset about your travel difficulties shows that the purpose of their strike is working, It may be nasty but if they said "we arnt going to talk for 2 hours" it wouldn't have the same impact and they would more than likely not get even a compromise in the deal they have set out to get in the first place.

This way ensures that the company feels an impact and understand just how serious the workers are that they are willing to sacrifice wages for what they believe is right.

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Skodaboy1983

The main concern for them is to cause upset to everyone and ruin their day but do they ever feel the same anger for when say something that affects them go on strike and they have to face what we have to face.

Davy

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Bigw2069

Are you in a union?

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Babs

I can see the point... sort of...

But it is in the same league as a baby throwing their toys out of the pram, imho

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skodagirl1985

Its the fact that I could lose wages if I am late for work that gets me and having find another why to get to work which is the headache I'd say. I can see the Forth Road Bridge being at grid lock on Wednesday morning with no trains. A 15 min journey to work could take maybe an hour or more.

Bigw2069

So just bend over and let your company take you for all your worth. If talks break down how else are PUBLIC SERVICE workers going to make a stand?

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redbaron

who cares? if they want more money then they should get more qualifications and get a better job.

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chriskite

Unfortunately, after all other avenues of negotiation have failed, yes.

Where I work we are in dispute over proposed changes to our working pattern, proposed changes will cost me over £1000 and 26 lost day off per year.This dispute has gone on for 10 months now and we are currently waiting for the next set of proposals. We haven't considered striking yet as this is not a decision to be taken lightly,as I work in a psychiatric hospital. I think we would have to consider a work to rule or other action that would not affect the service users (patients)

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Gizmo68

Sorry you are way off the mark, they go on strike to hit their employers financially, as they obviously think they they deserve a percentage of the company's profits in the form of a pay rise.

If the company has made huge profits then it can be down to either paying their employees a low wage or charging the customers too much.

Lady Elanore

I think the act of Striking is an important one. It does cause knock on problems to many others and I too have been compromised many times by industrial action, but as a free country I think we should be allowed to strike. One of the problems is who decides what is a fair reason to strike and what isn’t? A good Trade Union will try to arbitrate where it can and will only take industrial action when it is absolutely necessary to improve the worker’s situation to a fair level. I do agree that on occasion, the Striking seems to be based on little more than greed.

I should also add (and this might not be a total surprise to some) that I have been on picket lines myself on several occasions. I even lost a days pay for being off (a scheduled day off!) on a strike day, as the management thought I would have gone on strike if I had been scheduled to come in to work!! Buggers

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Bigw2069

There's a big one out there

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Glider

I think it's a "right" our grandparents / great grandparents fought for. It's all done within a tight legal framework and we should all support that "right" rather than being selfish wimping what about poor me's.

pittVRS

Agreed. I support the right to strike,but only if there is reasonable cause, and if all other avenues have been tried and re-tried.

For instance, I had absolutely no sympathy for the fire service when they went out on strike, as their demands were unreasonable, and their union leader was after hightening his public image rather than bothered about the conditions of his members.

I did support the fuel strike as it was for the good of the general populace, even though it caused severe widespread disruption.

Glider is correct in saying you should look past your own little bubble and the disruption it causes you and investigate why the strike is happening and what is trying to be achieved before making judgement.

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Aspman

Right now strikes seems to be all about the union leaders doing a bit of 'willy waving' or settling personal scores.

The local government strikes recently were over pay, basically wanting more than 2.5%. Which I was in agreement with but then the Unions, quite quietly, added a further demand for 3 extra days holiday and an additional public holiday. Which is ludicrous considering the number of holidays public sector workers get.

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ag.morley

Sorry but..........................
Being in the rail Industry myself I fully support the actions of Network rail. Working condition, pay, pensions etc etc has all gone stupid. I do blame the unions to some extent in allowing things to get like it is and also management tactics to Implement issues.....AND I would never cross a picket line whoever was on strike. I belive an employer cannot force you to cross one either providing the strike was official

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andypandypoos

were there not rumblings off plod wanting the right to strike over pay not all that long ago? Something like the SAS kicking the absolute ****e outta them would've made for cracking PPV and some of the money could've gone towards giving the dullard cops their pay increase - that's what you call a win-win situation

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KenONeill

I'm going to ignore the specific case because I know nothing about it.

In the general case, I think the right to withdraw labour as a last resort protest against an intransigent management is important, and Hannah, you probably will too when you get to Amanda's age, never mind my 46!

Blade404

Maybe you should pitch that idea to ITV.

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gillywibble

I accept the right to strike, but it should be the exception rather than the rule.

I was annoyed earlier this year when the public sector threatened to strike. They must appreciate that in times of economic crisis they are not necessarily going to get an inflation rise. The ultimate cost of such a move could be that people actually end up losing their jobs.

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daiking

But their boss has lorded it up for the past 10 years claiming to be some sort of economic messiah and he finds billions to bail out a bank and will continue to find money to pump into the financial system yet there is no more to go into worker's inflation matching pay rises?

I would be mildly perturbed too.

Lady Elanore

It’s quite amazing how the general mood of the country has changed about striking. I am convinced that the younger generation have become so used to having it all they can’t accept any form of hardship (this isn’t directed at you Hannah). I too hate the effects of a major companys going on strike, but it is sometimes essential.


Thanks Maggie

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swedishskoda

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