WinXP SP2 is out

pbirkett · 10-08-2004, 17:27

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Dr Zoidberg · 10-08-2004, 18:32

At 272mb I think I'll wait for my SUS server to pick it up.
I'm in no hurry to spend a few days seeing what SP2 breaks anyway.

helpmedisappear · 10-08-2004, 18:36

downloading now...i will be making a drive image before i install it though!

helpmedisappear · 10-08-2004, 22:10

now installed and working...no problems as of yet other than having to update my stylexp to the latest version as i was still using version 1

dunno if i like all this security crap that keeps popping up though

***DGW*** · 10-08-2004, 22:18

I see this particular update is for IT professionals and developers only. Does that mean it is unsuitable for XP home users or just that it contains bells and whistles which are not needed?

neilwilliams · 10-08-2004, 22:19

That's a lot bigger than the filesizes I'd heard about before. Are you certain that was the home computer version and not for networks?

LINK

This is the Microsoft site that BBC online were linking to yesterday. It does say a CD version will be available to order shortly and some magzines will be carrying it too.

Huck · 10-08-2004, 22:20

i think the latter denis.

greg2302 · 11-08-2004, 09:13

SP2 is aimed at all users and includes enhanced security features such a a better firewall and a pop-up blocker, in addition to fixes for code exploits used by recent virus types. Personally I'm gonna wait a couple of weeks for people to start finding the bugs !

helpmedisappear · 11-08-2004, 09:15

I must admit startup is a lot slower but seems fine whens its going

pbirkett · 11-08-2004, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by helpmedisappear

I must admit startup is a lot slower but seems fine whens its going

Try downloading Bootvis from microsoft and following their instructions to optimize boot performance.

Gwilo · 11-08-2004, 10:34

Yes, it's a monstrous files size, and it is only intended for IT pro's looking after a network environment.
For the avergage joe user, it says a smaller, more appropriate download will be available via Windows update soon.
I'm tempted to go for the biggie, but on the other hand, I don't want it to scupper my home WiFi network.......
Still, never does any harm to have it i guess........
Big or small? Daddy or chips?

Dr Zoidberg · 11-08-2004, 10:40

If you were deploying it across a large network you'd be better off setting up an SUS server to download and distribute it (plus all the other patches that get released) and for a home user you may as well wait for windows update to pick it up.

The only point of this early full release is so that people like me can start testing it and see what it breaks.

***ncarring*** · 11-08-2004, 10:56

Considering that this is only the second Service Pack for XP, and it's 2 years since the previous one, it's a bit unrealistic IMHO to talk of "seeing what it breaks", "start testing", "let other users find the bugs" etc.

There won't be another one for a good while, and it will already have been tested by thousands of beta testers, so you either want it or you don't. They won't suddenly change the contents next week. OK there may be a few hotfixes over coming weeks and months, but SP2 will be SP2, and it'll be the standard for a while.

JM2PW

***DGW*** · 11-08-2004, 11:21

OK, I downloaded all 272Mb last night. Do I ignore Microsoft's warning that this is for IT professionals etc and install it on my home PC or wait for the slimmed down home user version?

Undecided of St Neots

Dr Zoidberg · 11-08-2004, 11:23

The betas and RCs of SP2 did cause quite a few problems , and no matter how thoroughly they test it in house there is no way that they can have tried it with every possible combination of hardware and software. I'm sure many of the problems have been fixed but not all of them

Its realistic to expect a few problems when its first installed which is why I'm testing my machine before deploying it to see what may need to be done or changed.

Dr Zoidberg · 11-08-2004, 11:24

If you have downloaded it now you may as well go ahead and install it.
The warning was really to stop you downloading more than you needed as the full installer contains a lot of code that you won't need.

HongKongPhooey · 11-08-2004, 11:38

'The Register' article about XP SP2.

Dr Zoidberg · 11-08-2004, 12:07

Well its in and running on my machine now without any obvious problems.

A lot of the new features aren't essential for us as being on a business network e already have plenty of security already.

For home users with a bit of technical knowledge it should be very handy though.

SimonT · 11-08-2004, 12:29

Downloaded in 4:38 - this 10Mb connection makes "broadband" feel distinctly slow

DaveU · 11-08-2004, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonT

Downloaded in 4:38 - this 10Mb connection makes "broadband" feel distinctly slow

No need to rub our noses in it *******

Welliesorter · 11-08-2004, 17:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by DGW

OK, I downloaded all 272Mb last night. Do I ignore Microsoft's warning that this is for IT professionals etc and install it on my home PC or wait for the slimmed down home user version?

I downloaded and installed it on my free-standing home PC a couple of days ago. No obvious ill effects yet. It was 266 MB though. If you got yours from an unofficial source you might want to check that it's genuine first!

See this article at Neowin.net to help you make your mind up.

***DGW*** · 11-08-2004, 19:15

Installed today on XP Home. No problems.

rich1068 · 24-08-2004, 12:56

I have a feeling that SP2 is downloading as I type (10 minutes, 36% complete, a good clue) via auto update.

Any suggestions before I hit the 'Install Now' button apart from the usual clean up before installing any software?

And if this knocks me back to the start of 'Soldiers. Heroes Of World War II' Mr. Gates will be getting a very stern letter.

Just about the trickiest game I've ever played.

Quinten · 24-08-2004, 13:01

I took the plunge a week or 2 ago and used a streamlined copy to install from scratch. Hasn't broken anything unusual yet, but I have yet to try some 'exotic' hardware, so can't comment just yet.

***DGW*** · 24-08-2004, 14:10

I loaded the 'big' version 2 weeks ago. Interestingly, it hasn't recorded its presence in the installed updates. No problems initially, but I was very worried when I found out that Norton AntiVirus autoprotect along with email scanning had been turned off a number of times without me being aware that this had happened. Whatever the problem was has now resolved itself - possibly with an update from Symantec. I also found that I was unable to access an internet bank account I had previously been using without any problems. The bank has since applied an XP SP2 fix but still has some fine-tuning to do to get their service to work correctly. Doubtless other glitches will surface...

10-08-2004, 17:27	#1
pbirkett Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,873 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	WinXP SP2 is out http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

10-08-2004, 18:32	#2
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,760 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 31 Thanked 196 Times in 147 Posts	At 272mb I think I'll wait for my SUS server to pick it up. I'm in no hurry to spend a few days seeing what SP2 breaks anyway. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

10-08-2004, 18:36	#3
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,763 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 36 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	downloading now...i will be making a drive image before i install it though! __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRSv

10-08-2004, 22:10	#4
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,763 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 36 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	now installed and working...no problems as of yet other than having to update my stylexp to the latest version as i was still using version 1 dunno if i like all this security crap that keeps popping up though __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRSv

10-08-2004, 22:18	#5
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	I see this particular update is for IT professionals and developers only. Does that mean it is unsuitable for XP home users or just that it contains bells and whistles which are not needed? __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

10-08-2004, 22:19	#6
neilwilliams Techie Teacher Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 957 Members Car: VW Golf TDI SE 5door Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	That's a lot bigger than the filesizes I'd heard about before. Are you certain that was the home computer version and not for networks? LINK This is the Microsoft site that BBC online were linking to yesterday. It does say a CD version will be available to order shortly and some magzines will be carrying it too. __________________ Neil Williams History: Fabia 1.4 8v, Fabia 1.4 16v, Fabia vRS Now driving a Golf Mk5 tdi Teachers click HERE for free resources.

10-08-2004, 22:20	#7
Huck Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NW England Posts: 2,276 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i think the latter denis. __________________ Huck B.

11-08-2004, 09:13	#8
greg2302 Briskodian Join Date: May 2003 Location: West Lothian Posts: 1,158 Members Car: Audi TT 1.8T Quattro (225) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SP2 is aimed at all users and includes enhanced security features such a a better firewall and a pop-up blocker, in addition to fixes for code exploits used by recent virus types. Personally I'm gonna wait a couple of weeks for people to start finding the bugs ! __________________ An idiot is somebody who persists in holding their own opinion even after I have enlightened them with mine

11-08-2004, 09:15	#9
helpmedisappear Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bolton Posts: 1,763 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 36 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I must admit startup is a lot slower but seems fine whens its going __________________ Martin Black Magic Fabia vRSv

11-08-2004, 10:34	#11
Gwilo Undercover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,693 Members Car: Rustwagon Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Yes, it's a monstrous files size, and it is only intended for IT pro's looking after a network environment. For the avergage joe user, it says a smaller, more appropriate download will be available via Windows update soon. I'm tempted to go for the biggie, but on the other hand, I don't want it to scupper my home WiFi network....... Still, never does any harm to have it i guess........ Big or small? Daddy or chips? __________________

11-08-2004, 10:40	#12
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,760 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 31 Thanked 196 Times in 147 Posts	If you were deploying it across a large network you'd be better off setting up an SUS server to download and distribute it (plus all the other patches that get released) and for a home user you may as well wait for windows update to pick it up. The only point of this early full release is so that people like me can start testing it and see what it breaks. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

11-08-2004, 10:56	#13
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,965 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 17 Thanked 96 Times in 79 Posts	Considering that this is only the second Service Pack for XP, and it's 2 years since the previous one, it's a bit unrealistic IMHO to talk of "seeing what it breaks", "start testing", "let other users find the bugs" etc. There won't be another one for a good while, and it will already have been tested by thousands of beta testers, so you either want it or you don't. They won't suddenly change the contents next week. OK there may be a few hotfixes over coming weeks and months, but SP2 will be SP2, and it'll be the standard for a while. JM2PW __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

11-08-2004, 11:21	#14
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	OK, I downloaded all 272Mb last night. Do I ignore Microsoft's warning that this is for IT professionals etc and install it on my home PC or wait for the slimmed down home user version? Undecided of St Neots

11-08-2004, 11:23	#15
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,760 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 31 Thanked 196 Times in 147 Posts	The betas and RCs of SP2 did cause quite a few problems , and no matter how thoroughly they test it in house there is no way that they can have tried it with every possible combination of hardware and software. I'm sure many of the problems have been fixed but not all of them Its realistic to expect a few problems when its first installed which is why I'm testing my machine before deploying it to see what may need to be done or changed. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

11-08-2004, 11:24	#16
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,760 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 31 Thanked 196 Times in 147 Posts	If you have downloaded it now you may as well go ahead and install it. The warning was really to stop you downloading more than you needed as the full installer contains a lot of code that you won't need. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

11-08-2004, 11:38	#17
HongKongPhooey Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wirral Posts: 794 Members Car: Octavia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	'The Register' article about XP SP2. __________________ Chris.

11-08-2004, 12:07	#18
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,760 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 31 Thanked 196 Times in 147 Posts	Well its in and running on my machine now without any obvious problems. A lot of the new features aren't essential for us as being on a business network e already have plenty of security already. For home users with a bit of technical knowledge it should be very handy though. __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

11-08-2004, 12:29	#19
SimonT Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,174 Members Car: very carefully Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Downloaded in 4:38 - this 10Mb connection makes "broadband" feel distinctly slow __________________ Si

11-08-2004, 19:15	#22
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	Installed today on XP Home. No problems. __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

24-08-2004, 12:56	#23
rich1068 Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: North Posts: 2,708 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I have a feeling that SP2 is downloading as I type (10 minutes, 36% complete, a good clue) via auto update. Any suggestions before I hit the 'Install Now' button apart from the usual clean up before installing any software? And if this knocks me back to the start of 'Soldiers. Heroes Of World War II' Mr. Gates will be getting a very stern letter. Just about the trickiest game I've ever played. __________________ Rich. Skoda Octavia RS

24-08-2004, 13:01	#24
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	I took the plunge a week or 2 ago and used a streamlined copy to install from scratch. Hasn't broken anything unusual yet, but I have yet to try some 'exotic' hardware, so can't comment just yet. __________________ Awooga!!!

24-08-2004, 14:10	#25
*DGW* BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 17,300 Members Car: Octavia 1.8T 4X4 Estate & Fabia vRS Thanks: 51 Thanked 208 Times in 157 Posts	I loaded the 'big' version 2 weeks ago. Interestingly, it hasn't recorded its presence in the installed updates. No problems initially, but I was very worried when I found out that Norton AntiVirus autoprotect along with email scanning had been turned off a number of times without me being aware that this had happened. Whatever the problem was has now resolved itself - possibly with an update from Symantec. I also found that I was unable to access an internet bank account I had previously been using without any problems. The bank has since applied an XP SP2 fix but still has some fine-tuning to do to get their service to work correctly. Doubtless other glitches will surface... __________________ Denis 2002 Octavia 1.8T 4X4 turbo Estate - rebreathed on by Jabba ... 31.93mpg 2007 Fabia vRS - CC, ESP and full leather trim by Seat Surgeons ...48.57 mpg...

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