Are you cool or just a tight git?

lozgti · 02-07-2005, 11:09

Just a bit bored of reading bits about skoda being the 'economy 'choice for buyers. The best 'bargain' car.The car for 'those on a budget'

No it blooming isn't! Its not a cheap range of cars and having to pay more to insure my vRS than my Audi A4 1.8t quattro doesn't back that up either!

I like to think people are buying them because they are actually becoming the trendy choice of motor and one that is good to boot.

So were you out shopping for an 'economy car'when you bought yours?Were you sniffing around the bargain basement cars like a nice proton or a chevy daewoo? I thought nothing of the sort.Just loved the look of the octy RS and think the range looks rather classy.

Sooner they lose the budget tag the better. (rant over,just read another group test and the word 'budget ' irks me

)

devonutopia · 02-07-2005, 11:32

If I was a tight git I'd sell the Skoda and buy the 1.8 Vectra off my mate, who got it for £300 from an auction.

I'd sooner have a nice quality car and mould it in the fashion I desire.

ScoobyChris · 02-07-2005, 11:34

But surely compared to the equivalent car in the VW/Audi range, they are cheaper and to achieve this they've compromised on seat/dash materials as well as equipment (or at least available optional equipment)?

Chris

lozgti · 02-07-2005, 11:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

But surely compared to the equivalent car in the VW/Audi range, they are cheaper and to achieve this they've compromised on seat/dash materials as well as equipment (or at least available optional equipment)?

Chris

They are certainly not as good quality as Audi but I meant when they compare them against other makes of cars in their class.Octavia and fabia size tests.Even alongside citroen and renault skoda are always sort of referred to as the cheapy choice

.....then win

Having said that,the octavia was in a group test with a golf and came out above it

.Materials were described as extremely good too.

WW_VRS · 02-07-2005, 12:29

Octy II is definitely a big improvement again over Octy I - no offence intended to those with Octy I

I still cant get over how absolutely rubbish the standard ICE in the Octy I is though, fair enough when it was introduced perhaps but no excuse imho as even the cheapest Furby model comes with a pretty decent set of speakers as standard, and although the radio/cassette thing isnt very reliable according to the dealer, it sounds ok.

The Octy I 'Ambiente' was plain awful, sound-wise. Rest of the car - not bad but the basic spec is indeed that. For the amount of car you get it's good value (sorry).

The VW range next - I always feel it's overpriced, but they're nice enough cars too.

There aren't many 'properly rubbish' cars out anymore, as those manufacturers have been bought out/gone bust...

logiclee · 02-07-2005, 13:35

Skoda's are certainly not cheap when compared with the likes of Ford and Vauxhall, especially not when discounts are taken into account.

Skoda's are a budget VAG though, they are a cheaper way to get quality VAG mechanicals and reliablity without paying Volkswagon and Audi prices. You certainly get a lot more spec and space for the same price Octy to a Golf.
There are places where you can see the cost cutting though, dash plastics, interior trim and audio just being examples. But then I've never had a car where I've left the audio standard anyway.

I bought all ours because they were good products with proven reliability and known customer satisfaction. After owning a 156 Selespeed Veloce for 20 months you appriciate these things.

I also like the smug "in the know" image of the Skoda brand. Those that know about cars rate them highly and those that know nothing still joke about them. Very much like Subaru's image in the late eighties/early nineties.

Cheers
Lee

Octygone · 02-07-2005, 13:46

I bought my first SDi octavia simly because it was exactly what I was after....loads of space ....cheap to run and reliable....then came an Octy elegance 130pd and now a Vrs.....can't see anything coming in between me and skoda for a while yet

A-B Girl · 02-07-2005, 13:53

I knew I wanted a estate car, I was looking for a astra estate to be honest,( my last car was a astra & i was happy with it, it just wasn't estate ) I had been looking for nearly 12 months ( & the longer I looked the more I saved ). I knew I wanted air con, I didn't want a base model, I wanted soemting decent. I then came across this octy, I liked it, it fitted the bill, plus my brother had got one & loved his,Also being abit larger than the astra was a plus to. Also this site played a large part in it, I knew any problems & I had so may people on here with all their info, now that was just great. got my Bro. to check it & it was fine so bought it. Since them my parents have also bought a new octy estate, we love them.

AlexMechanic · 02-07-2005, 17:19

Jason: "I'd sooner have a nice quality car".- Please tell me you are joking coz thats the funniest thing I've heard all day!!!

devonutopia · 02-07-2005, 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexMechanic

Jason: "I'd sooner have a nice quality car".- Please tell me you are joking coz thats the funniest thing I've heard all day!!!

Hullo.

You know it's meant in comparative terms to what I could be driving.

carefree · 02-07-2005, 18:20

Done the VW Golf thing on the Mk 2, 3 and 4 and honestly honestly think my Fab vRS is better built than any of them. In fact, having owned many other makes (Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc etc blah) I can honestly say the Fab is better......by a mile.

JUST my opinion and probably not shared by others but in my experience (and that is all any of us can go on) the myth of VW being superbly built and reliable is just that, a myth.

Someone posted a thread earlier about the R32.....lovely fast car etc etc BUT for me it'll probably spend a lot of its time in a garage.

**roo** · 03-07-2005, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by lozgti

Just a bit bored of reading bits about skoda being the 'economy 'choice for buyers. The best 'bargain' car.The car for 'those on a budget'

So were you out shopping for an 'economy car'when you bought yours?Were you sniffing around the bargain basement cars like a nice proton or a chevy daewoo? I thought nothing of the sort.Just loved the look of the octy RS and think the range looks rather classy.

Nope. I brought my first Fabia because it was the best ar I was looking at, and the best value. The Fabia vRs i was interested in when I heard it was being launched, and there is no way my lovely shiney Octavia is budget as it cost so much.

simontreen · 03-07-2005, 21:42

I looked at allsorts before buying my Octy vRS, I wanted something that wasn't run-of-the-mill and was a bit of an extroverts car.

Yellow vRS fits the bill perfectly.

drm_jones · 03-07-2005, 23:49

When I bought my Octy vRS I was looking for a more powerful car than what I had at the time. Initially I was looking at the VW Golf 2.3V5 until I saw that the 1.8 20V Turbo was just as powerful and more efficient.

I started looking around for cars that used this engine and decided that it was down to a choice between the 1.8T powered Seat Leon Cupra and the Octy vRS however, to make it a fair test I also looked at the 1.9TDi PD as an alternative engine choice. After some deliberation I discounted the diesel as I have always wanted a turbocharged petrol and I knew that if I had bought the diesel I deep down I would have wanted the 1.8T.

After test driving the Octy vRS I was absolutely blown away and that was it - I knew that I had to have this car

It is absolutely stunning and I could even half con myself into believing that it is practical as well

The looks on people's faces (especially those in BMWs) when they get overtaken like they are standing still by, horror of horrors - a Skoda

, is hilarious

So in summary: am I cool or just a tight git? Neither really I just wanted a quick car that was a bit different and that had "some" tuning potential

WW_VRS · 04-07-2005, 07:57

I reckon you made the right choice

- the PD is great if you're after a car that you can drive without too much fuss most days, it returns decent MPG.

The 1.8T, hmm

- It is an excellent engine and it's very fast. I'm amazed you kept it standard for this long though

Did you buy it new in '02?

drm_jones · 05-07-2005, 08:35

I've only had the car since Feb this year - back in 2002 I was still at uni and obviuosly could not have afforded the insurance let alone the car

If I can find a 'sympathetic' insurance company* I will get the car Custom-Coded - then the fun begins

*due to my age (24) this is a damn hard thing to find - most of them either laugh or quote a premium that takes the pi$$

Maybe next year

L-Y-K · 05-07-2005, 08:42

i think i got the fab to be differnt , as well it looked alot bigger than the rest of the super minis out on the market! my friends say the cars cool

they love some of the stuff i got that they dont! haha my m8 might be bying a vrs because of me.but then he will have a better car

damn!

02-07-2005, 11:09	#1
lozgti Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: midlands Posts: 5,722 Members Car: Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Are you cool or just a tight git? Just a bit bored of reading bits about skoda being the 'economy 'choice for buyers. The best 'bargain' car.The car for 'those on a budget' No it blooming isn't! Its not a cheap range of cars and having to pay more to insure my vRS than my Audi A4 1.8t quattro doesn't back that up either! I like to think people are buying them because they are actually becoming the trendy choice of motor and one that is good to boot. So were you out shopping for an 'economy car'when you bought yours?Were you sniffing around the bargain basement cars like a nice proton or a chevy daewoo? I thought nothing of the sort.Just loved the look of the octy RS and think the range looks rather classy. Sooner they lose the budget tag the better. (rant over,just read another group test and the word 'budget ' irks me )

02-07-2005, 11:32	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,109 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 353 Times in 296 Posts	If I was a tight git I'd sell the Skoda and buy the 1.8 Vectra off my mate, who got it for £300 from an auction. I'd sooner have a nice quality car and mould it in the fashion I desire. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

02-07-2005, 11:34	#3
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,198 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 15 Thanked 337 Times in 290 Posts	But surely compared to the equivalent car in the VW/Audi range, they are cheaper and to achieve this they've compromised on seat/dash materials as well as equipment (or at least available optional equipment)? Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian..........

02-07-2005, 12:29	#5
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,879 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Octy II is definitely a big improvement again over Octy I - no offence intended to those with Octy I I still cant get over how absolutely rubbish the standard ICE in the Octy I is though, fair enough when it was introduced perhaps but no excuse imho as even the cheapest Furby model comes with a pretty decent set of speakers as standard, and although the radio/cassette thing isnt very reliable according to the dealer, it sounds ok. The Octy I 'Ambiente' was plain awful, sound-wise. Rest of the car - not bad but the basic spec is indeed that. For the amount of car you get it's good value (sorry). The VW range next - I always feel it's overpriced, but they're nice enough cars too. There aren't many 'properly rubbish' cars out anymore, as those manufacturers have been bought out/gone bust... __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

02-07-2005, 13:35	#6
logiclee Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Notts, UK Posts: 787 Members Car: Octavia TDi Elegance, Fabia TDi Comfort Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Skoda's are certainly not cheap when compared with the likes of Ford and Vauxhall, especially not when discounts are taken into account. Skoda's are a budget VAG though, they are a cheaper way to get quality VAG mechanicals and reliablity without paying Volkswagon and Audi prices. You certainly get a lot more spec and space for the same price Octy to a Golf. There are places where you can see the cost cutting though, dash plastics, interior trim and audio just being examples. But then I've never had a car where I've left the audio standard anyway. I bought all ours because they were good products with proven reliability and known customer satisfaction. After owning a 156 Selespeed Veloce for 20 months you appriciate these things. I also like the smug "in the know" image of the Skoda brand. Those that know about cars rate them highly and those that know nothing still joke about them. Very much like Subaru's image in the late eighties/early nineties. Cheers Lee __________________ Another Ex-Scooby owner. Mondeo TDCi 130 6 Speed Ghia, Octavia 1.9TDi Elegance (Now Sold), Fabia 1.9TDi Comfort and Felicia 1.9D GLi Last edited by logiclee; 02-07-2005 at 13:36.

02-07-2005, 13:46	#7
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,828 Members Car: Octavia II tdi ..for now Thanks: 182 Thanked 116 Times in 75 Posts	I bought my first SDi octavia simly because it was exactly what I was after....loads of space ....cheap to run and reliable....then came an Octy elegance 130pd and now a Vrs.....can't see anything coming in between me and skoda for a while yet __________________

02-07-2005, 13:53	#8
A-B Girl Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: north west Lancs Posts: 217 Members Car: Octavia 1.6 GLXi Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I knew I wanted a estate car, I was looking for a astra estate to be honest,( my last car was a astra & i was happy with it, it just wasn't estate ) I had been looking for nearly 12 months ( & the longer I looked the more I saved ). I knew I wanted air con, I didn't want a base model, I wanted soemting decent. I then came across this octy, I liked it, it fitted the bill, plus my brother had got one & loved his,Also being abit larger than the astra was a plus to. Also this site played a large part in it, I knew any problems & I had so may people on here with all their info, now that was just great. got my Bro. to check it & it was fine so bought it. Since them my parents have also bought a new octy estate, we love them. __________________ Tracey

02-07-2005, 17:19	#9
AlexMechanic Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Incestershire Posts: 123 Members Car: Lard wagon, BMW, mini Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Jason: "I'd sooner have a nice quality car".- Please tell me you are joking coz thats the funniest thing I've heard all day!!!

02-07-2005, 18:20	#11
carefree Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Essex Posts: 1,044 Members Car: fabia vrs Thanks: 1 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Done the VW Golf thing on the Mk 2, 3 and 4 and honestly honestly think my Fab vRS is better built than any of them. In fact, having owned many other makes (Ford, Vauxhall, Renault etc etc blah) I can honestly say the Fab is better......by a mile. JUST my opinion and probably not shared by others but in my experience (and that is all any of us can go on) the myth of VW being superbly built and reliable is just that, a myth. Someone posted a thread earlier about the R32.....lovely fast car etc etc BUT for me it'll probably spend a lot of its time in a garage. __________________ '54' Black Magic Fabia vRS Yo Adrien I DID IT!!!

03-07-2005, 21:42	#13
simontreen Engerland-Maybe Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: High Wycombe...not the horrible built-up bit though. I'm out in Walter's Ash on the edge of the Chilterns. Beautiful countryside - f*%king expensive houses :( Posts: 794 Members Car: Yellow Octy vRS (to match my shoes) Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I looked at allsorts before buying my Octy vRS, I wanted something that wasn't run-of-the-mill and was a bit of an extroverts car. Yellow vRS fits the bill perfectly. __________________ Si The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair - Douglas Adams

03-07-2005, 23:49	#14
drm_jones Worthless loser Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nowhere of interest to anybody Posts: 1,034 Members Car: Unimportant Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When I bought my Octy vRS I was looking for a more powerful car than what I had at the time. Initially I was looking at the VW Golf 2.3V5 until I saw that the 1.8 20V Turbo was just as powerful and more efficient. I started looking around for cars that used this engine and decided that it was down to a choice between the 1.8T powered Seat Leon Cupra and the Octy vRS however, to make it a fair test I also looked at the 1.9TDi PD as an alternative engine choice. After some deliberation I discounted the diesel as I have always wanted a turbocharged petrol and I knew that if I had bought the diesel I deep down I would have wanted the 1.8T. After test driving the Octy vRS I was absolutely blown away and that was it - I knew that I had to have this car It is absolutely stunning and I could even half con myself into believing that it is practical as well The looks on people's faces (especially those in BMWs) when they get overtaken like they are standing still by, horror of horrors - a Skoda , is hilarious So in summary: am I cool or just a tight git? Neither really I just wanted a quick car that was a bit different and that had "some" tuning potential __________________ David 2002 Black Magic Octavia V/RS

04-07-2005, 07:57	#15
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,879 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	I reckon you made the right choice - the PD is great if you're after a car that you can drive without too much fuss most days, it returns decent MPG. The 1.8T, hmm - It is an excellent engine and it's very fast. I'm amazed you kept it standard for this long though Did you buy it new in '02? __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

05-07-2005, 08:35	#16
drm_jones Worthless loser Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Nowhere of interest to anybody Posts: 1,034 Members Car: Unimportant Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I've only had the car since Feb this year - back in 2002 I was still at uni and obviuosly could not have afforded the insurance let alone the car If I can find a 'sympathetic' insurance company* I will get the car Custom-Coded - then the fun begins *due to my age (24) this is a damn hard thing to find - most of them either laugh or quote a premium that takes the pi$$ Maybe next year __________________ David 2002 Black Magic Octavia V/RS

05-07-2005, 08:42	#17
L-Y-K Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: A30 Newquay Cornwall Posts: 4,219 Members Car: Fabia 1.9 TDI Thanks: 39 Thanked 44 Times in 40 Posts	i think i got the fab to be differnt , as well it looked alot bigger than the rest of the super minis out on the market! my friends say the cars cool they love some of the stuff i got that they dont! haha my m8 might be bying a vrs because of me.but then he will have a better car damn! __________________ Fabia Bohemia Mods - 16" BBS Montreal's, Blaupunkt Rome nav, fitted front and rear areo wipers, rear OEM speakers fitted, vw damped grab handles.

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