Hi Volume Fuel Pump & Stage II+ - 2.0TFSI

Mater · 29-01-2008, 21:44

im back in UK as from 7th feb but im only down south for 2 weeks and cant get part delivered in time for then

so will have to wait till ive moved back order one and have a trip to portsmouth from yorkshire one weekend

Makefish · 30-01-2008, 09:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hedge

How about the fuel consumption?
Better, worse or no change?

If you 'gun it' everywhere (and I do............ frequently

) then I have seen a noticable drop in fuel economy. Chris and I did pretty much the same trip at the weekend and wer'e both known for not holding back on the roads so the comparative overall consumption figures of 23.6mpg for me and 25.3mpg for Chris does indicate a difference.

That said, I have taken it a bit more sedately the last couple of days and easily reached mid 30's mpg which is comparable from before so the moral is, if you hoof it everywhere then be prepared to take a hit on economy.

**GAFF** · 30-01-2008, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

If you 'gun it' everywhere (and I do............ frequently

) then I have seen a noticable drop in fuel economy. Chris and I did pretty much the same trip at the weekend and wer'e both known for not holding back on the roads so the comparative overall consumption figures of 23.6mpg for me and 25.3mpg for Chris does indicate a difference.

That said, I have taken it a bit more sedately the last couple of days and easily reached mid 30's mpg which is comparable from before so the moral is, if you hoof it everywhere then be prepared to take a hit on economy.

Do you guys have that E5 Maxol stuff over there as even with a Std Car I'm averaging 25mpg & would really need to drive like an aul one to hit 30mpg....sorry for kinda Hijacking

**VRStu** · 30-01-2008, 21:03

Shell V Power is the drink of choice for the TFSi over here Colm.

Hedge · 30-01-2008, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Shell V Power is the drink of choice for the TFSi over here Colm.

Or Tesco's Finest 99.

Superted · 30-01-2008, 21:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

If you 'gun it' everywhere (and I do............ frequently

) then I have seen a noticable drop in fuel economy. Chris and I did pretty much the same trip at the weekend and wer'e both known for not holding back on the roads so the comparative overall consumption figures of 23.6mpg for me and 25.3mpg for Chris does indicate a difference.

That said, I have taken it a bit more sedately the last couple of days and easily reached mid 30's mpg which is comparable from before so the moral is, if you hoof it everywhere then be prepared to take a hit on economy.

Jeez Steve, that's ST or VXR MPG territory....

......have to say your right, gun it and it will cripple your wallet......

redbaron · 30-01-2008, 21:40

Quote:
Originally Posted by Makefish
If you 'gun it' everywhere (and I do............ frequently ) then I have seen a noticable drop in fuel economy. Chris and I did pretty much the same trip at the weekend and wer'e both known for not holding back on the roads so the comparative overall consumption figures of 23.6mpg for me and 25.3mpg for Chris does indicate a difference.

That said, I have taken it a bit more sedately the last couple of days and easily reached mid 30's mpg which is comparable from before so the moral is, if you hoof it everywhere then be prepared to take a hit on economy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superted
Jeez Steve, that's ST or VXR MPG territory................

so is mid 30's on a longer more sedate run. and as they all offer similar power/performance - its not a surprise is it?

Makefish · 30-01-2008, 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbaron

so is mid 30's on a longer more sedate run. and as they all offer similar power/performance its not a surprise is it?

I'm sorry, but I dont understand your question or statement?

Edit: Thanks for the edit, I understand now

gazzer04 · 31-01-2008, 21:34

Stu / anyone
Can you give me details of the supplier for the new internals for the fuel pump.
My brother and I both have the same fuel cut problem.
Brov saw a guy at Revo today who said the same we need an up-rated fuel pump, we are running Revo stg 11 with full turbo back.
He said look on here for details.

Thanks
Gaz

**VRStu** · 31-01-2008, 21:41

It's in the post above but i'll post again.

BSH Speedshop - The guy I dealt with is called Phil.

You'll need to email them to arrange an order and I think you'll find the pump is on back order.

http://www.bshspeedshop.com/store/home.php?cat=833

gazzer04 · 31-01-2008, 21:46

Thanks Stu missed it in the post

gazzer04 · 31-01-2008, 21:48

Just looked at link, Bloody expensive !!
Is there a cheaper option ?
Gaz

**VRStu** · 31-01-2008, 21:50

That is the cheap option!!!!

The only other alternative is -

APR - High Performance Development for Volkswagen Vehicles

gazzer04 · 31-01-2008, 22:02

See what you mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could the fuel pump be disconnected from the fuel line and an electric high flow pump installed somewhere ?
Only a lay man's thought, could be talking ****.
Thanks
Gaz

**VRStu** · 31-01-2008, 22:06

Yeah give it up mate. These are currently the only solutions, I've been following it for months.

You've either got to cough up or live with it.

gazzer04 · 31-01-2008, 22:45

Looks like I will be ordering 2 in the morning then.
Does it come apart easily by removing the large nut and inserting the new parts ?
Thanks
Gaz

Superted · 31-01-2008, 22:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzer04

See what you mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could the fuel pump be disconnected from the fuel line and an electric high flow pump installed somewhere ?
Only a lay man's thought, could be talking ****.
Thanks
Gaz

In reality you have a couple of options;

Live with it and do nothing and enjoy what you have..

Put back to standard if you can't..

Or invest in a solution that on the surface seems to work.........

Autotech solution so far does............

Superted · 31-01-2008, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by gazzer04

Looks like I will be ordering 2 in the morning then.
Does it come apart easily by removing the large nut and inserting the new parts ?
Thanks
Gaz

18mm centre pump nut is a bit of a game......

**VRStu** · 31-01-2008, 22:57

There are two fitments -

New cars have one metal pipe and one rubber, older ones have two metal. Newer is easier and the internals can be changed whilst the pump is still in the car.

If it is an older car the 'inner' Banjo bolt is a spline and not torx - don't feck anything up as the seals etc are not available seperately.

Very, Very important to make sure you put Cyl 1 at TDC before starting. It is possible to see the timing marks by removing the two torx bolts on the top of the cover and pulling it gently away.

You'll need an 18mm deep socket to get the large nut off/on.

Do not touch the pump when it arrives, wait until you fit it. The slightest corrosion will feck things up.

There isn't any need to fully strip the pump as shown in the instructions.

Superted · 31-01-2008, 23:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

There are two fitments -

New cars have one metal pipe and one rubber, older ones have two metal. Newer is easier and the internals can be changed whilst the pump is still in the car.

If it is an older car the 'inner' Banjo bolt is a spline and not torx - don't feck anything up as the seals etc are not available seperately.

Very, Very important to make sure you put Cyl 1 at TDC before starting. It is possible to see the timing marks by removing the two torx bolts on the top of the cover and pulling it gently away.

You'll need an 18mm deep socket to get the large nut off/on.

Do not touch the pump when it arrives, wait until you fit it. The slightest corrosion will feck things up.

There isn't any need to fully strip the pump as shown in the instructions.

Also, you don't want to go dropping it on the driveway either...........not healthy....

**VRStu** · 31-01-2008, 23:13

Yeah - If you do that you need to be lucky.

Superted · 31-01-2008, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Yeah - If you do that you need to be lucky.

Very.........

Makefish · 02-02-2008, 19:30

I think there was conclusive proof the effect the pump has made judging by todays RR figures

CHRIS ELLIS · 02-02-2008, 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

I think there was conclusive proof the effect the pump has made judging by todays RR figures

29-01-2008, 21:44	#76
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30-01-2008, 21:03	#79
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30-01-2008, 21:40	#82
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,570 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Quote: Originally Posted by Makefish If you 'gun it' everywhere (and I do............ frequently ) then I have seen a noticable drop in fuel economy. Chris and I did pretty much the same trip at the weekend and wer'e both known for not holding back on the roads so the comparative overall consumption figures of 23.6mpg for me and 25.3mpg for Chris does indicate a difference. That said, I have taken it a bit more sedately the last couple of days and easily reached mid 30's mpg which is comparable from before so the moral is, if you hoof it everywhere then be prepared to take a hit on economy. Quote: Originally Posted by Superted Jeez Steve, that's ST or VXR MPG territory................ so is mid 30's on a longer more sedate run. and as they all offer similar power/performance - its not a surprise is it? __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling. Last edited by redbaron; 31-01-2008 at 21:54.

31-01-2008, 21:34	#84
gazzer04 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: EAST ANGLIA Posts: 78 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Stu / anyone Can you give me details of the supplier for the new internals for the fuel pump. My brother and I both have the same fuel cut problem. Brov saw a guy at Revo today who said the same we need an up-rated fuel pump, we are running Revo stg 11 with full turbo back. He said look on here for details. Thanks Gaz

31-01-2008, 21:41	#85
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI It's in the post above but i'll post again. BSH Speedshop - The guy I dealt with is called Phil. You'll need to email them to arrange an order and I think you'll find the pump is on back order. http://www.bshspeedshop.com/store/home.php?cat=833 __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

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gazzer04 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: EAST ANGLIA Posts: 78 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Thanks Stu missed it in the post

31-01-2008, 21:48	#87
gazzer04 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: EAST ANGLIA Posts: 78 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Just looked at link, Bloody expensive !! Is there a cheaper option ? Gaz

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VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI That is the cheap option!!!! The only other alternative is - APR - High Performance Development for Volkswagen Vehicles __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-01-2008, 22:02	#89
gazzer04 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: EAST ANGLIA Posts: 78 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI See what you mean !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Could the fuel pump be disconnected from the fuel line and an electric high flow pump installed somewhere ? Only a lay man's thought, could be talking ****. Thanks Gaz

31-01-2008, 22:06	#90
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Yeah give it up mate. These are currently the only solutions, I've been following it for months. You've either got to cough up or live with it. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-01-2008, 22:45	#91
gazzer04 Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: EAST ANGLIA Posts: 78 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Looks like I will be ordering 2 in the morning then. Does it come apart easily by removing the large nut and inserting the new parts ? Thanks Gaz

31-01-2008, 22:57	#94
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI There are two fitments - New cars have one metal pipe and one rubber, older ones have two metal. Newer is easier and the internals can be changed whilst the pump is still in the car. If it is an older car the 'inner' Banjo bolt is a spline and not torx - don't feck anything up as the seals etc are not available seperately. Very, Very important to make sure you put Cyl 1 at TDC before starting. It is possible to see the timing marks by removing the two torx bolts on the top of the cover and pulling it gently away. You'll need an 18mm deep socket to get the large nut off/on. Do not touch the pump when it arrives, wait until you fit it. The slightest corrosion will feck things up. There isn't any need to fully strip the pump as shown in the instructions. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-01-2008, 23:13	#96
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,856 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 999 Times in 895 Posts	Re: Hi Volume Fuel Pump - 2.0TFSI Yeah - If you do that you need to be lucky. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

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