The JKM Rolling Road Day

Revo James · 25-01-2007, 15:12

Hi Guys,

just wanted to know how your JKM Rolling Road Day went, and if anyone had any problems?

James

Makefish · 25-01-2007, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Revo James

Hi Guys,

just wanted to know how your JKM Rolling Road Day went, and if anyone had any problems?

James

That's the funniest thing I've read in ages

Revo James · 25-01-2007, 15:30

ok, and you think its so funny because??????

Makefish · 25-01-2007, 15:39

You are going to re-open a 'can of worms' James!.

Makefish · 25-01-2007, 15:42

Check any of the results from any of the five OctyII's and you'll get the idea!!.

Portsmouth RR Results

DAZ · 25-01-2007, 15:51

What kind of problems was you expecting?

Stuart_J · 25-01-2007, 16:14

Couldnt make our Diesel Smoke no matter how hard they tried, thats a problem as it means the ferkin DPF hasnt got a hole in it !! YET

Revo James · 25-01-2007, 16:14

i wasn't expecting any problems, but i was going to help anyone who did.

bengie · 25-01-2007, 16:16

no real problems that i knew of other than my car burning more oil than a diesel

**VRStu** · 25-01-2007, 16:42

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Originally Posted by Revo James

i wasn't expecting any problems, but i was going to help anyone who did.

Oh James, you know what he's talking about.

Please don't upset the Fish meister

Stuart_J · 25-01-2007, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Revo James

i wasn't expecting any problems, but i was going to help anyone who did.

If you know how to remove the DPF from a Superb 140 whilst not sending the warning lights into a colurful display & leaving the car running OK you will solve my problem

JKM_Performance · 25-01-2007, 22:47

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Originally Posted by Makefish

Check any of the results from any of the five OctyII's and you'll get the idea!!.

Portsmouth RR Results

Poor james, he was only asking how the day went!!!
i know we struggled to see the bhp figures on the TFSI cars but you gotta be happy with 320 lb.ft Makefish . remember that bhp is pub talk but lb.ft wins races.

Makefish · 26-01-2007, 01:40

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Originally Posted by JKM_Performance

Poor james, he was only asking how the day went!!!
i know we struggled to see the bhp figures on the TFSI cars but you gotta be happy with 320 lb.ft Makefish . remember that bhp is pub talk but lb.ft wins races.

I'm well aware of that but to say we 'struggled' to achieve the bhp figures is an understatement, it's just not feasible!. Why then publish figures that are plainly unrealistic?. You know full well that I am very happy with the performance and have got over the intial 'shock' of the first set of results but it does annoy me that 255bhp is still published as achievable from a REVO Stage I map when clearly it is'nt and yet the published torque figures are somewhat conservative

!.

How many runs on a rolling road have we to do to convince you, we've done around 100 between us on three sets of rollers with 6 different cars, and don't try and use that one off 'rogue run' on me either!!!.

James, I must stress this is not a persoanal attack on you but unfortunately you have inadvertently refreshed a debate that I feel this time must be sorted one way or the other.

Snoopie · 26-01-2007, 07:56

JKM's rolling road is nice and accurate judging by what the standard car's were pushing...

Fluffmeister · 26-01-2007, 17:15

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Originally Posted by Makefish

I'm well aware of that but to say we 'struggled' to achieve the bhp figures is an understatement, it's just not feasible!. Why then publish figures that are plainly unrealistic?. You know full well that I am very happy with the performance and have got over the intial 'shock' of the first set of results but it does annoy me that 255bhp is still published as achievable from a REVO Stage I map when clearly it is'nt and yet the published torque figures are somewhat conservative

!.

How many runs on a rolling road have we to do to convince you, we've done around 100 between us on three sets of rollers with 6 different cars, and don't try and use that one off 'rogue run' on me either!!!.

James, I must stress this is not a persoanal attack on you but unfortunately you have inadvertently refreshed a debate that I feel this time must be sorted one way or the other.

I agree 100% with Steve, I don't think this should be taken personally by anyone at Revo but the figures don't stack up at all. I have not seen a single mk2 vRS on stage 1 make more than around 236 and it's the same for Audi 2.0T's and Mk5 Golf GTi's on other forums, I have been doing a fair bit of web trawling since the RR day

When I go to work next week to teach a course, I am paid for 5 days, I cant stop on Thursday and say "thats all I can do folks, but I am taking the 5 days worth of money and Friday off!!"

I would say there seems to be a great variance in dealerships, JKM where very professional, doing the job, testing, plugging the car into a charger to get the required voltage etc etc.

My dealer in the NW, took 15 minutes, never tested it, never put it on a charger and took a big wedge of my hard earned.

I still think it's probably the best option for a 2.0TFSi at the moment, but a little wide of the websites quoted figures

**VRStu** · 26-01-2007, 18:17

I agree too -

So the issue seems to be that if the software is advertised as being able to do something then surely it must be capable of doing that - on a repeatable basis.

If you can't prove that then surely you must revise your claims.

Harry_vRS · 26-01-2007, 18:27

Exactly. None of the Revo Stage 1 TFSI Octavias I've seen have made anywhere near Revo claims

.

Altho numbers mean nothing when driving the car, I have driven a Stage 1 Octavia vRS and the experience is quite remarkable

Makefish · 29-01-2007, 17:31

It's gone a little quiet from REVO and somewhat conspicuous by your abscence of comments/answers on this thread, do you have anything to say

?.

WW_VRS · 29-01-2007, 19:02

Guessing a web site edit might be in progress?

It would make sense based on figures seen, plus I think (I dont have the map as I have a different car of course) that everyone with the stage 1 Revo for the Octy Mk2 vRS (petrol) is actually very happy with the way it transforms the car, in all fairness

Makefish · 29-01-2007, 19:07

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Originally Posted by WW_VRS

........that everyone with the stage 1 Revo for the Octy Mk2 vRS (petrol) is actually very happy with the way it transforms the car, in all fairness

Oh absolutely, there has never been any doubt that it's a first class stage 1 map

. Just can't make the quoted bhp figure that's all!.

25-01-2007, 15:12	#1
Revo James Site Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daventry, Uk Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The JKM Rolling Road Day Hi Guys, just wanted to know how your JKM Rolling Road Day went, and if anyone had any problems? James __________________ james.luton@revotechnik.com

25-01-2007, 15:30	#3
Revo James Site Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daventry, Uk Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day ok, and you think its so funny because?????? __________________ james.luton@revotechnik.com

25-01-2007, 15:39	#4
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 7,994 Thanks: 152 Thanked 227 Times in 168 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day You are going to re-open a 'can of worms' James!. __________________ Black magic Octy II vRS MY2008 with Maxidot ~ Xenons ~ Cruise ~ Light Assist ~ Dual Zone Climate Control ~ Rain Sensing Wipers ~ MFD2 Satellite Navigation ~ VAG Bluetooth Phone Kit ~ Milltek Exhaust with 2.75" Downpipe ~ EVOM Ram Air Intake ~ Nuespeed Shortshifter ~ Eibach Rear ARB ~ Koni FSD Dampers ~ Eibach Springs ~ Forge Front Mounted Twintercooler ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Turbo Outlet Pipe ~ Eurojet PCV Valve ~ Forge DV ~Autotech Hi Volume Fuel Pump ~ Nuespeed Torque Arm Insert ~ NGK Iridium Spark plugs ~ REVO Stage II+ Software ~ Matt Black Viper Stripes!

25-01-2007, 15:42	#5
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 7,994 Thanks: 152 Thanked 227 Times in 168 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day Check any of the results from any of the five OctyII's and you'll get the idea!!. Portsmouth RR Results __________________ Black magic Octy II vRS MY2008 with Maxidot ~ Xenons ~ Cruise ~ Light Assist ~ Dual Zone Climate Control ~ Rain Sensing Wipers ~ MFD2 Satellite Navigation ~ VAG Bluetooth Phone Kit ~ Milltek Exhaust with 2.75" Downpipe ~ EVOM Ram Air Intake ~ Nuespeed Shortshifter ~ Eibach Rear ARB ~ Koni FSD Dampers ~ Eibach Springs ~ Forge Front Mounted Twintercooler ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Turbo Outlet Pipe ~ Eurojet PCV Valve ~ Forge DV ~Autotech Hi Volume Fuel Pump ~ Nuespeed Torque Arm Insert ~ NGK Iridium Spark plugs ~ REVO Stage II+ Software ~ Matt Black Viper Stripes! Last edited by Makefish; 25-01-2007 at 15:43.

25-01-2007, 15:51	#6
DAZ Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 308 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day What kind of problems was you expecting?

25-01-2007, 16:14	#7
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,555 Thanks: 37 Thanked 79 Times in 72 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day Couldnt make our Diesel Smoke no matter how hard they tried, thats a problem as it means the ferkin DPF hasnt got a hole in it !! YET __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

25-01-2007, 16:14	#8
Revo James Site Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Daventry, Uk Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day i wasn't expecting any problems, but i was going to help anyone who did. __________________ james.luton@revotechnik.com

25-01-2007, 16:16	#9
bengie splash!!!! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: planet earth Posts: 14,661 Thanks: 15 Thanked 115 Times in 103 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day no real problems that i knew of other than my car burning more oil than a diesel __________________ owner of a skoda octavia 4xvrs3

26-01-2007, 07:56	#14
Snoopie Permanently banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buckingham Palace Car Park Posts: 4,462 Thanks: 86 Thanked 85 Times in 52 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day JKM's rolling road is nice and accurate judging by what the standard car's were pushing... Last edited by Snoopie; 26-01-2007 at 07:59.

26-01-2007, 18:17	#16
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,810 Thanks: 90 Thanked 859 Times in 774 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day I agree too - So the issue seems to be that if the software is advertised as being able to do something then surely it must be capable of doing that - on a repeatable basis. If you can't prove that then surely you must revise your claims. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

26-01-2007, 18:27	#17
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,018 Thanks: 15 Thanked 40 Times in 32 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day Exactly. None of the Revo Stage 1 TFSI Octavias I've seen have made anywhere near Revo claims . Altho numbers mean nothing when driving the car, I have driven a Stage 1 Octavia vRS and the experience is quite remarkable __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

29-01-2007, 17:31	#18
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 7,994 Thanks: 152 Thanked 227 Times in 168 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day It's gone a little quiet from REVO and somewhat conspicuous by your abscence of comments/answers on this thread, do you have anything to say ?. __________________ Black magic Octy II vRS MY2008 with Maxidot ~ Xenons ~ Cruise ~ Light Assist ~ Dual Zone Climate Control ~ Rain Sensing Wipers ~ MFD2 Satellite Navigation ~ VAG Bluetooth Phone Kit ~ Milltek Exhaust with 2.75" Downpipe ~ EVOM Ram Air Intake ~ Nuespeed Shortshifter ~ Eibach Rear ARB ~ Koni FSD Dampers ~ Eibach Springs ~ Forge Front Mounted Twintercooler ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Intercooler Pipe ~ Nuespeed Hi-Flo Turbo Outlet Pipe ~ Eurojet PCV Valve ~ Forge DV ~Autotech Hi Volume Fuel Pump ~ Nuespeed Torque Arm Insert ~ NGK Iridium Spark plugs ~ REVO Stage II+ Software ~ Matt Black Viper Stripes!

29-01-2007, 19:02	#19
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,733 Thanks: 44 Thanked 68 Times in 59 Posts	Re: The JKM Rolling Road Day Guessing a web site edit might be in progress? It would make sense based on figures seen, plus I think (I dont have the map as I have a different car of course) that everyone with the stage 1 Revo for the Octy Mk2 vRS (petrol) is actually very happy with the way it transforms the car, in all fairness __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there)

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