Aggressive attitude - needless

anonymouse · 26-09-2007, 03:12

I'm annoyed.
Have spoken to quite a few 'regular' lovely people - people who consider, think before they post / speak. Ok, have only been on here some 10 months but have posted / contributed / mangled a lot

Several have said they now rarely come on here because of the bitchiness, the aggression that has crept in ... and these are seriously pleasant well-informed people that would be a great loss to the Brisky Community in terms of life-experience and technical knowledge.

Right, OK, am partially half-cut, but still capable of some reason (if not correct

spelling).

I ask these 'offending people' / anyone - to moderate their vindictiveness / maliciousness / lack of consideration because they are in danger of alienating the people who are best able to advise and help them. Brisky is NOT about scoring points.

Briskoda, as I see it, is here to offer much much advice on cars, problems with, servicing queries, problems - but so much more too. It is a community where (mostly) like-minded people gather at times to also like to discuss other matters, relieve the frustrations of every day life, to banter, have fun, arrange social gatherings and trips and, evetually, life-long friendships and relationships.

I find Brisky brill - OK, I'm a sad sac 55 yr old unemployed but have met (virtually and otherwise) so so many nice people, it has in many ways reaffirmed my reason for living (aside from my family - andf in no way do I decry this aspect - it is ALLl important) - and certainly beats the dross that predominates TV.

So, please please please, leave your irritations / annoyances at home - we all have them - be considerate, be polite, think before writing, try to use the Smilies (so much can be 'defused' by this), and - if work is getting you down - vent it out publically on here not on an individual - and you will almost certainly find a sympathetic soul -

Brisky is truly great, and deserves better than to be tainted by narrow-minded individuals.

If you were to go on other Forums you would soon discover how good this one is.

Sermon over - please think

And, I hope the really nice peeps that have virtually deserted Brisky return - your Forum Needs You

To ColinD (the site owner) and all the Moderators who do so much unseen (and unthanked ) work, I thank you

Admit it - what does it cost to be nice - a few words, a smile. C'mon - is this past you ? Life is about fun mostly, relationships, experience - Brisky can certiainly help here......................

johnjohnhealy · 26-09-2007, 04:32

Cant honestly say I've noticed a problem?

The thing with forums is even with smilies, it's hard to judge the tone of a post, so the simple method is to always assume the best and never take offence, that way you dont feel the need to make whinging, self congratulory posts like the above!

So, even with the smilies, have you judged a tone in my post?

Just to clarify, it is meant to be tongue in cheek and light hearted, so dont take offence

octav.ed · 26-09-2007, 07:07

**VRStu** · 26-09-2007, 07:30

Anyone who does find a comment or post offensive should report the post using the exclamation mark button to the left of the page and a mod will take a look at it. We aren't around all of the time but we will get to it when possible.

Lummox · 26-09-2007, 07:32

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but its also very funny.

Problem is its very difficult to convey accross a forum, hope I haven't upset anyone

ZootyRS · 26-09-2007, 11:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnjohnhealy

Cant honestly say I've noticed a problem?

Me neither. Perhaps I'm reading the wrong forums?

I've noticed a few new members getting the hump when they haven't received the reply they wanted, but I don't consider the regulars being particularly off, just directing towards the search facility, etc.

And the odd serious topic becomes a little heated every now and then (although not seen many of them lately), but I've not noticed anything I'd call aggression, and certainly not aimed at any of the regulars...?

jec · 26-09-2007, 11:34

ooo, who are the bitchy, aggressive people????

I've not noticed, this forum is pretty tame compared to a couple others I go on

ap0gee · 26-09-2007, 11:38

I think Brisky's pretty easy-going too, TBH.

Fair enough, my posts in response to one particular member's posts might be considered over-critical (I think aggressive / bitchy is taking it too far), but then that was troll-baiting, which while naughty (and maybe even against the forum rules - must check!) was hardly unprovoked...

soviet · 26-09-2007, 11:55

Hi Good old Soviet here,

Must comment that I have never seen any nasty, or bad behaviour towards others on the forum. Can you be more specific, or give instances, as I do not recall anything of offence. There are of course normal channels that have been put there by the site owners to air your grievances, if it is so bad.

No offence, but arn't you blowing things up out of proportion some what?

Regards

Soviet

robb06210 · 26-09-2007, 12:28

Me neither... other than branding you The Mancunian Idiot in the Blackpool thread which we briefly hijacked I can honestly say I've never recieved a malicious message... either on Briskoda or MSN where I chat to peeps from the site on occasion.

I've never had a PM ignored by the mods, and 95% of my threads get answered - no complaints from this one

Well to be fair Mr Gumpy was mean when advising me about washing cars... but it was for my own good

johnjohnhealy · 26-09-2007, 12:29

In fact, this is the only aggressive unthinking reply I can remember seeing lately??

Quote:

Originally Posted by anonymouse

repeatedly

Glad to hear you're in 'logical thinking' mode then

anonymouse · 26-09-2007, 13:44

Quote:

Several have said they now rarely come on here because of the bitchiness, the aggression that has crept in ...

I didn't say I was the recipient - I have been but am suitably more thick-skinned now so just tend to ignore those responsible.

Quote:

No offence, but arn't you blowing things up out of proportion some what?

So, no, can't say who has offended / attacked bludgeoned these nice peeps (because I just don't know) - but for several of them to make the same comment says someting.............

ScoobyChris · 26-09-2007, 14:11

I've not noticed anything out of the ordinary recently that I'd deem to be aggressive, but maybe we all have different interpretations and standards. This sort of thing crops up every few months and I think would happen in any community be it online or otherwise, especially where friendship groups are evident within the community. If people feel they have been victimised or a post(er) is aggressive towards them then they must report the post otherwise their silence will go unheard and it can never be resolved. If they don't want to use report they can always PM one of the mods directly.

Chris

Mr Grumpy · 26-09-2007, 14:33

I may come across as being a tad terse now and again, but I have an odd sense of humour, and rarely post anything with malice aforethought.
Then again, if people disagree with what I say, there is always the report post button, or even the ignore one.
Life's too short to worry about upsetting an idiot now and again anyway.
( Sorry Robbo, that wasn't aimed at you, I know you have learned your lesson

)

smstext · 26-09-2007, 20:22

Cant say ive notice any bitchiness on here, but if anything ive found everyone to be helpful and nice.

Makefish · 26-09-2007, 20:29

As previously mentioned, if something is posted that you consider to be rude, offensive, malicious or anything else that causes problems then feel free to report the post. Dont hesitate to name and shame either.

robb06210 · 26-09-2007, 21:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy

( Sorry Robbo, that wasn't aimed at you, I know you have learned your lesson

)

It was for my own good

Appology accepted

**mannyo** · 26-09-2007, 22:11

Cant say I have noticed anything major, the forum seems to go through sticky patches once in a while but on the whole still apears to be good natured and informative and IIRC its always been like this Having been a member since day one of briskoda, and before its inception we were part of a larger forum I think we are still a good source of information and technical advice.

Harry_vRS · 26-09-2007, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy

I may come across as being a tad terse now and again, but I have an odd sense of humour, and rarely post anything with malice aforethought.
Then again, if people disagree with what I say, there is always the report post button, or even the ignore one.
Life's too short to worry about upsetting an idiot now and again anyway.
( Sorry Robbo, that wasn't aimed at you, I know you have learned your lesson

)

Why don't you apologise for your un-provoked stabs at me while you're at it.

pittVRS · 26-09-2007, 22:16

I have noticed rudeness on here (I can't guarantee I've never posted owt rude "yaaaaaawn!" springs to mind)

there are a couple of members who aren't really candidates for Briskodian of the Month and as soon as they post anything the regulars (mods included) come down on them like a ton of bricks. But hey, that's probably the reaction they're looking for anyway.

gillywibble · 26-09-2007, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makefish

Rude, offensive, malicious or anything else that causes problems

Only the hat

Basil · 26-09-2007, 22:33

Well mate - all I can say is I've been enjoying your past posts and would hate to see them change at all. Don't let the rare sour unhappy person spoil the real comraderie, friendship and warmth that is the spirit of Briskoda....

Cheers
Bas

Mr Grumpy · 26-09-2007, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry_vRS

Why don't you apologise for your un-provoked stabs at me while you're at it.

For you I make an exception.
The comments I originally aimed at you I refuse to withdraw.
In my eyes they were well deserved, and I got a ban because of it whilst you publicly called me a ****** and never got censured, so **** off sunshine.

vrswhite · 26-09-2007, 22:39

not sure if you and mr grumpy are having banter or not but you gotta love that reply he's a man who says whats on his mind!

and today its **** of sunshine. lol love it

p.s as for the original link regarding attitude i come on here to vent my frustration lol

Harry_vRS · 26-09-2007, 22:41

I can't see what drew cause for such comments though if memory serves me right?

Quite frankly I'm tired of it and would prefer to call it water under the bridge.

26-09-2007, 03:12	#1
anonymouse Nuts Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 8,450 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 152 Thanked 258 Times in 192 Posts	Aggressive attitude - needless I'm annoyed. Have spoken to quite a few 'regular' lovely people - people who consider, think before they post / speak. Ok, have only been on here some 10 months but have posted / contributed / mangled a lot Several have said they now rarely come on here because of the bitchiness, the aggression that has crept in ... and these are seriously pleasant well-informed people that would be a great loss to the Brisky Community in terms of life-experience and technical knowledge. Right, OK, am partially half-cut, but still capable of some reason (if not correct spelling). I ask these 'offending people' / anyone - to moderate their vindictiveness / maliciousness / lack of consideration because they are in danger of alienating the people who are best able to advise and help them. Brisky is NOT about scoring points. Briskoda, as I see it, is here to offer much much advice on cars, problems with, servicing queries, problems - but so much more too. It is a community where (mostly) like-minded people gather at times to also like to discuss other matters, relieve the frustrations of every day life, to banter, have fun, arrange social gatherings and trips and, evetually, life-long friendships and relationships. I find Brisky brill - OK, I'm a sad sac 55 yr old unemployed but have met (virtually and otherwise) so so many nice people, it has in many ways reaffirmed my reason for living (aside from my family - andf in no way do I decry this aspect - it is ALLl important) - and certainly beats the dross that predominates TV. So, please please please, leave your irritations / annoyances at home - we all have them - be considerate, be polite, think before writing, try to use the Smilies (so much can be 'defused' by this), and - if work is getting you down - vent it out publically on here not on an individual - and you will almost certainly find a sympathetic soul - Brisky is truly great, and deserves better than to be tainted by narrow-minded individuals. If you were to go on other Forums you would soon discover how good this one is. Sermon over - please think And, I hope the really nice peeps that have virtually deserted Brisky return - your Forum Needs You To ColinD (the site owner) and all the Moderators who do so much unseen (and unthanked ) work, I thank you Admit it - what does it cost to be nice - a few words, a smile. C'mon - is this past you ? Life is about fun mostly, relationships, experience - Brisky can certiainly help here...................... __________________ "Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting." - Heinlein Last edited by anonymouse; 26-09-2007 at 03:41.

26-09-2007, 04:32	#2
johnjohnhealy Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK south east Posts: 2,428 Members Car: Superb 130pd Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless Cant honestly say I've noticed a problem? The thing with forums is even with smilies, it's hard to judge the tone of a post, so the simple method is to always assume the best and never take offence, that way you dont feel the need to make whinging, self congratulory posts like the above! So, even with the smilies, have you judged a tone in my post? Just to clarify, it is meant to be tongue in cheek and light hearted, so dont take offence

26-09-2007, 07:07	#3
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26-09-2007, 07:30	#4
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26-09-2007, 07:32	#5
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26-09-2007, 11:34	#7
jec Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: * Posts: 1,201 Members Car: * Thanks: 2 Thanked 12 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless ooo, who are the bitchy, aggressive people???? I've not noticed, this forum is pretty tame compared to a couple others I go on

26-09-2007, 11:38	#8
ap0gee ASZ Eternal Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Leafy Chesh-shire Posts: 6,908 Members Car: Black Magic Fabia vRS Thanks: 360 Thanked 374 Times in 325 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless I think Brisky's pretty easy-going too, TBH. Fair enough, my posts in response to one particular member's posts might be considered over-critical (I think aggressive / bitchy is taking it too far), but then that was troll-baiting, which while naughty (and maybe even against the forum rules - must check!) was hardly unprovoked... __________________

26-09-2007, 11:55	#9
soviet Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Swindon Posts: 928 Members Car: skoda 2002 1600 lx saloon Thanks: 63 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless Hi Good old Soviet here, Must comment that I have never seen any nasty, or bad behaviour towards others on the forum. Can you be more specific, or give instances, as I do not recall anything of offence. There are of course normal channels that have been put there by the site owners to air your grievances, if it is so bad. No offence, but arn't you blowing things up out of proportion some what? Regards Soviet

26-09-2007, 12:28	#10
robb06210 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,104 Members Car: Nothing :-( Thanks: 52 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless Me neither... other than branding you The Mancunian Idiot in the Blackpool thread which we briefly hijacked I can honestly say I've never recieved a malicious message... either on Briskoda or MSN where I chat to peeps from the site on occasion. I've never had a PM ignored by the mods, and 95% of my threads get answered - no complaints from this one Well to be fair Mr Gumpy was mean when advising me about washing cars... but it was for my own good __________________ I was just a figment of your imagination! After nearly two years and a hell of a lot of fun, I'm off - all the best to everybody; this is Robbo signing off!

26-09-2007, 14:11	#13
ScoobyChris Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Andover Posts: 18,198 Members Car: Fiat Panda Thanks: 15 Thanked 337 Times in 290 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless I've not noticed anything out of the ordinary recently that I'd deem to be aggressive, but maybe we all have different interpretations and standards. This sort of thing crops up every few months and I think would happen in any community be it online or otherwise, especially where friendship groups are evident within the community. If people feel they have been victimised or a post(er) is aggressive towards them then they must report the post otherwise their silence will go unheard and it can never be resolved. If they don't want to use report they can always PM one of the mods directly. Chris __________________ Holding up the traffic in a little Italian.......... Last edited by ScoobyChris; 26-09-2007 at 14:19.

26-09-2007, 14:33	#14
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26-09-2007, 20:22	#15
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26-09-2007, 20:29	#16
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 8,277 Members Car: Golf PD105 Thanks: 187 Thanked 248 Times in 184 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless As previously mentioned, if something is posted that you consider to be rude, offensive, malicious or anything else that causes problems then feel free to report the post. Dont hesitate to name and shame either. __________________ Superchips Bluefin only £390 @ JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinxmas2008.htm

26-09-2007, 22:11	#18
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,477 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 362 Times in 333 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless Cant say I have noticed anything major, the forum seems to go through sticky patches once in a while but on the whole still apears to be good natured and informative and IIRC its always been like this Having been a member since day one of briskoda, and before its inception we were part of a larger forum I think we are still a good source of information and technical advice. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

26-09-2007, 22:16	#20
pittVRS Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off The Wagon Posts: 5,268 Members Car: MX-5 Thanks: 148 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless I have noticed rudeness on here (I can't guarantee I've never posted owt rude "yaaaaaawn!" springs to mind) there are a couple of members who aren't really candidates for Briskodian of the Month and as soon as they post anything the regulars (mods included) come down on them like a ton of bricks. But hey, that's probably the reaction they're looking for anyway. __________________

26-09-2007, 22:33	#22
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,259 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless Well mate - all I can say is I've been enjoying your past posts and would hate to see them change at all. Don't let the rare sour unhappy person spoil the real comraderie, friendship and warmth that is the spirit of Briskoda.... Cheers Bas __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

26-09-2007, 22:39	#24
vrswhite Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: doncaster - yorkshire Posts: 694 Members Car: white octavia vrs 02 plate Thanks: 4 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless not sure if you and mr grumpy are having banter or not but you gotta love that reply he's a man who says whats on his mind! and today its **** of sunshine. lol love it p.s as for the original link regarding attitude i come on here to vent my frustration lol

26-09-2007, 22:41	#25
Harry_vRS Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North Posts: 2,052 Members Car: Skoda Octavia vRS Mk2 Thanks: 17 Thanked 45 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Aggressive attitude - needless I can't see what drew cause for such comments though if memory serves me right? Quite frankly I'm tired of it and would prefer to call it water under the bridge. __________________ \| Silver Octavia v/RS Mk2 \| 18" Alloys \| Dual Zone Climatronic \| Xenons \| \| 273bhp 335lbft \|

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