robb06210

Since nobody cares in work, I thought I'd speak to you guys cos I need to talk to somebody...

A lot's been happening in work lately to make me believe I'm not as valued as I originally thought I was
I work hard, I get in early in the mornings, I'm always eager to help if somebody needs a hand, and I'm willing to work late if anybody needs me too.

However, now the management expect me to do all this without question, and I get yelled at when I say I can't do this I've got too much on, or I'm too busy to do that - prompting some of my managers so storm off in a mood and whine about it!

Do the past four years I've worked here count for nothing at all

Am I naive in thinking that I actually matter to the management - or will this great machine that I work for just chew me up until I'm no longer of any use, and then spit me out and replace me with someone else?

Is it like this everywhere?

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ScoobyChris

I'm quite lucky where I work and everyone appears to be valued (until they mess up! ), but everyone is expected to do what it takes to get the job done and within our team everyone pulls their weight

If you're unhappy though, no harm in putting your CV about and seeing what else is available to you

Chris

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thegavsters

In short. Yes the machine will chew you up and spit you out.

I have seen it time and time again where people put in the extra effort and suddenly they expect it as the norm. Then when you dont do the extra it counts against you wehre as someone who's never done it doesnt have to.

My wife has been in the same situation. Coming in ealry and leaving late, then when she has to leave on time she gets funny looks like she's doing something wrong.

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postmanpat

You are naive, sorry, Afraid no one is indespensable and once you have started doing something (starting early for eg) then the minute you stop you will be at fault. Management in general don't give a fig and will be glad to abuse your willing nature, the minute you aren't willing tho then you will drop below the guy who as never done anything but their job to the letter. Don't take it personally it is the same in all sectors and at all levels.

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vRSLen

Paul,
at least you have age on your side. What about those poor sods over the age
of 40 and unhappy with their current situation?

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Goochie

Hopefully the lads who work for me would disagree.

Robbo - I know just what you mean as I had this at my last place. There, people got in early and worked late regardless of how busy they were. I turned up 2 mins before and left 2 mins after I was supposed to according to my contract and hours discussed at interview.

I always got funny looks and diddnt get the same % pay rises as others but I also got to spend time with my wife and time at home.

I believe there are basically two types of people at work.

1) The people who live to work - they come in early, go home late, earn more money but have less time to spend it.

2) People who work to live - they turn up on time, go home on time, dont "brown nose" and sadly end up with less money (probably) - However they have more free time to do with whatever they choose!

Our MD encourages people to fall into group 2 with occasional extra work if required (2 hrs a week MAX!)

thegavsters

I certainly fall into catagory two. Theres more to live then work and if I can survive and be happy on the money I am earning then theres nothing more I need.

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Goochie

At uni one lecturer told us "Change jobs every 2 years until you're 30. When you're 30 you need to be thinking about staying in that job for the rest of your working life, at this point you have one or two more chances to find the right job - Once you're 37 you really must be in a job you wont mind doing for ever

postmanpat

Two things I will say are:

The more you do, the more you are expected to do

and from management philosophy 1.0.1.

You can't flog a dead horse, but you can a live one.

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Goochie

I work or the theory of - Do as little work as you can for as much money as possible.

This is sure to be a good course to the top as I've seen many upper managment types using this theory

postmanpat

**** does that mean I'm stuck tramping the streets for the rest of my life

Think I might retire early

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Goochie

I think his comment related to progression upwards - sideways movement should be possible though ie. you could change to being a milkman or courier but you may be too late to think about becoming MD of Royal Mail.

postmanpat

Thanks a million for those words of encouragement and I thought Alan Leighton was grooming me starting at the bottom

What chance a binman

Still could allways go be a teacher if I get really desperate

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robb06210

maybe time to get another job then...

I work as a Computer Teacher at the moment, so it basically means that I'm stuck in a classroom day after day teaching the same subject.

I always wanted to be a mechanic , I did my first year at college and then decided that computers are what I know the most about, so I'll pursue a career in that.

I dunno what to do - but like my old man says, if ya ain't happy, then it's up to you to do summit about it!

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Goochie

Sound slike your old man has hit the nail on the head - if you're not happy, move on.

I have no idea how old you are etc. but do you live on your own, with wife etc., or with parents ??

gilesk

You are not naive, you are just like the rest of us, I resigned from a job that I have enjoyed for 8 years last week, my Boss called me every name under the sun and then screamed at me to get out of his office, this is someone who I have considered to be a good friend. It does not help that I am going to work for his nemises but he could only offer me a contract until August 2008 and the new boss offered me at least until 2012, I work on the Olympics from Madrid and it enabled me to stay here and then still be involved with 2012 and see my mates occasionally. My point is that life is too short, you seem like a good bloke, find something else, then cut the cord. I have great pleasure in watiching my present boss trying to replace me with no luck whatsoever, take care of No1!

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robb06210

I'm 24 years old - still living at home, and no wife, kids or girlfriend - so no ties really!

It's my first real full time job, and although I've been down lately I still have a good time with the lads and get on with everybody...

i think it's just fear of a new environment that stops me leaving, having to meet new people etc.

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gilesk

I would start looking if you are not happy, no harm done, if you find something then you can make the decision, it will also enable you to see how you feel about your job against whats out there.

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who'd have thought it eh?

postmanpat

I was still at uni at your age so you have plenty of time to become as twisted and dissalusioned as the rest of us Who knows you might become a street walker at least that way you have all afternoon to listen to Radio2 and talk carp on internet forums

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Goochie

You are in a great position without the worry of loosing or leaving a job. I wish I was lucky enough to have that much security.

Change jobs, maybe even join a temp agency to try lots of different things. You can only do this while living with parents and if you dont you'll regret it afterwards.

Your Dad is right - hand in your notice.

skodaw

I found this at the last place I worked at, I've always been at work early - to build myself upto the working day. BUT hometime is hometime, it would need to be an emergency to stop me.

The motor trade is certainly not all its cracked up to be, you might be better looking at a different area of IT.

The wages are certainly going to be lower in the MT

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Lance

IMO, No matter how much you put into a job you are almost always 'just an employee', no more no less.

Remember though, just because you work hard and do lots of hours, this doesn't always mean that you do a good days work. Effort don't always mean results.

Lance

heresmo

Hello robb06210

Yes, you are naive because you haven't had time to find your feet yet. It does indeed work like that, so you have to learn how to handle it. IMO stick with it for now, otherwise you'll find yourself in exactly the same situation even if you move.

There's your side and the manager's side:

Your side, is to agree willingly to any task put onto your desk, but then you immediately ask which task should be "prioritised" because you have This, This and This to do. Make sure you know how long those other tasks will take you. If you are conscientious, you'll economise on the timescale - life says that everything will take at least twice as long, so double any timescale you are asked about. (This is reality, not a wheeze.)

Manager side: Any task should be "do-able" otherwise you'll miss the deadline, which means so has the manager, and that will reflect badly on a manager, rather than his team, at the higher level.

A good manager will ensure that tasks are do-able so that you can work together and know that you've succeeded together in meeting an objective. Yey! So, I'd suggest (as above) that you ask how that objective can be achieved.

Mo

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apd007

I go to work to purely for the money, nothing else. I'm happy enough in my job, but that doesn't mean I don't keep an eye out for something else. Best thing you can do is to look around whilst you are still working, don't quit first though, find something else.

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Another little gem someone once said "You'll never get rich by working for someone else