Asthma really blows

Gwilo · 30-09-2005, 20:38

So i was due to go out tonight, blow a few mental cobwebs out and cheer myself up with a couple of friends.
ONly, my lovely lungs have other ideas.
Stepped out of house, walked to my mates car and started to have breathing issues. Took a puff of an inhaler, but, nothing improved.
So I'm now sat back at home, on a £$£$%££$ nebuliser inhaling Ventolin in aerosolised form, which is giving me the shakes.
I really wanted to have a drink too, but probably not a wise idea now.
Oh well.

So, any other asthmatics out there in Briskoda?
Care to share medicine info/coping strategies/ attack triggers etc?

Dunno what set me off tonight. Maybe shift from hot dry house to wet and damp.......happens sometimes.

Dave_Fox · 30-09-2005, 21:51

Yeah I am sort of. Luckily, I only suffer from mild asthma and have never really had a proper attack. The worst ive ever been was mountain biking in the Lakes; riding during the day was fine but got to the evening and felt like I was getting a cold. The smokey pub didnt help either. Got to bed that night and felt like I couldnt breathe- inhalers had run out (id never let that happen again) and these idiots were making me laugh

Was quite chilly that night aswell.

I just take small breaths in and out, keep as still as possible but try and keep my mind off it.......Usually colds/flu trigger mine so I up the dose of my Pulmicort.

Do you use a preventer?

Gwilo · 30-09-2005, 22:29

thought the pulmicort was the preventer.....
got bricanyl (blue twist bottom), oxis (green twist bottom) and pulmicort (brown twist).
used to have serevent diskhaler.
the ventolin nebules are for the really bad episodes, thankfully very rare (4-6 times a year now)
somey pubs never help.
main trigger for me i find is smoke, diesel exhaust (oh the irony!) and, wouldn't you know it, epic stress.

MikeF · 01-10-2005, 05:01

i'm ok except when i go from nice warm house to freezing cold outdoors in winter, so sounds like you suffer like me! I dontr catch the bus any more so that helps!!!!

heresmo · 01-10-2005, 15:42

Hi Gwilo

I am not a doctor and you must seek proper advice.

As you have been looking after a neighbour's cat, much fluff and dander will be in your otherwise "free" environment. A good vacuuming of carpets, furniture and surfaces will not hurt, even if it doesn't help.

Did you increase your daily dosage of Becotide (the brown one) and keep a blue (Salbutamol) handy at all times? Make sure these are not out of date! The body reacts to cold chill air, and potential chest infections, so should you be checking your preventers with the doc at this damp time of year? I have two air purifiers going permanently BTW. Have you checked with the doc the strength of steroid going into your nebuliser and how often you should be using it?

Bad luck on a Friday night - hope you can look forward to tomorrow's Sunday lunch.

Mo

Best
Mo

Gwilo · 01-10-2005, 17:08

mo....
cat stays firmly put....i just let her in the neighbours for feeding. no way could i allow her in to live with me. shame, cos she's a bit of a cutey as cats go. *turns of softie mode*

re: meds - all up to date with dosages etc. joys of annual astham assessment/review.
just one of the situations i prolly have to contend with.

not that i usually go out friday, but would've been nice this time.
looking fwd to steak tonight....*cue an ag.morley type thread*

auroan · 11-12-2006, 15:05

Well talk about up heaving an old thread... but I always found the more exercise I do the better my asthma is. I've now got it to the point that I'll only really feel wheezy now when I'm full of cold.

ag.morley · 11-12-2006, 15:15

mmmmmm.....I have a daily dose of Spiriva [Tiotropium] , 4 daily dose of Seretide [Fluticasone] and Ventolin as required. Mine not Asthma..............It's with Smoking......Packed up 23rd April 2005......Discusting Habit

damoh2k1 · 11-12-2006, 15:22

I've got Athsma!

I have 4 doses of symbicort (which cotains steroids) twice a day

Bricanyl Turbohailer as and when required.

I also have some Steroid tablets of which I have to take 8 once a day when I am really bad.

My attacks can be caused by pretty much anything. Caugh, Sneeze, running/any sport.

Got worse over the last couple of years but now working to improve this by improveing my general fitness.

I am also prone to chest infections.

God I love my lungs!

heresmo · 11-12-2006, 15:44

I only know about it because of son's, which is OK in summer and comes back as soon as the air turns cold and damp - especially if any hint of a chest infection. As he trains or plays rugby almost every day, it can't be lack of exercise in his case.

Anyway, I'm posting to say that he was prescribed a peak flow meter of his own (along with meds) last week, so as to monitor daily. The "preventers" are meant to keep it under control though, or must report back. Have to see how it goes.

Regards
Mo

Basil · 11-12-2006, 15:53

I am a doctor - but it's not my specific field - I heard of a US study some time back that use Azithromycin antibiotic treatment to actually markedly improve/cure asthma - it may be an idea to do an internet search. If the results were valid, Azithromycin is an extremely safe antibiotic, you may find an open-minded GP to prescribe it for you, but it isn't exactly cheap unless a generic form is available in the UK.
Otherwise it is down to identifying and avoiding known preciptating agents: inhaled allergens (boil/hot iron wet sheets frquently to kill dust mites) get an HEPA airpurifier, avoid oral aspirin, use a nebuliser before exercise.
Inhaled therapy includes things like, IIRC: steroids (which are vital to prevent further long-term worsening) and ventolin (to tell the airways to open up directly). Oral agents are also available (not steroids) that can help - can't remember the name right now.
Genuinely sorry to hear of your attack....Get better soon.

One way of looking at it is, if you had been alright and actually gone out, something bad could have happened to you say on the motorway. It may have been a blessing in disguise perhaps?

Get better soon
Bas

gillywibble · 11-12-2006, 16:13

I've had asthma since I was seven. I currently take Symbicort 400/12 two puffs twice a day and Salbutamol as required.

If I am bad I can increase the Symbicort up to 4 puffs twice a day for short periods, although this is not recommended as it can weaken your bone structure.

The Salbutamol inhaler I currently use is an 'Easyhaler' and has a counter on the side showing the number of doses left. Much better than the old sort. I probably use it too much but that's largely psychological.

I can exercise fine as long as I warm up carefully. I can't run as this triggers it off, as does grass pollen and feathers. I used to be allergic to cats but am fine with them now.

I have not had a full attack requiring hospital treatment since 1987, thanks largely to steroidal preventative medicine. Touch wood.

PEMBO · 11-12-2006, 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by gillywibble

If I am bad I can increase the Symbicort up to 4 puffs twice a day for short periods, although this is not recommended as it can weaken your bone structure.

Dont I know it

Im still trying to shift some of the weight gained too. If you have been on the steriod treatments for a while check with your doctor that you dont have symtoms of Cussions Syndrome caused by them, as they took several years to find my cause.

Sorry about the naff spellings! Im on Flixotide/seravent, Bricynal, montelucast, nasacort, neoclarityn, cocodomal & paracetamol, eyedrops, dyclafenic. & I use a nebuliser too

. Hydrocortisone for eczema.
OOOhhh, and steriod tablets which cause me to be really depressed so they get nicknamed "paddy tablets"

& Have to carry a epipen with me at all times due to many allergies.

Been on adult doses of meds since I was about 8 or 9

I have found though that breathing excercises help alot and (call me Harold Bishop) but playing a brass instrument such as a tuba or trombone etc really helps teach you to breath properly, and has really improved my asthma.

Some say that swimming helps too, however recent studies have found that the chlorine in the water interacts with sweat and wee and produces chemicals that irritate asthmatics.

Cats are a pain in the a*se as they set me going something rotton

heresmo · 11-12-2006, 19:11

Hello Bas

We have Erythromycin, which is an antibiotic often prescribed when penicillin is contra-indicated. I've not heard of it being used re asthma though. *Goes off to research this Azithromycin thingy*

Regards
Mo

**roo** · 11-12-2006, 19:23

Know how you feel. My dad has it really bad and has to take steroids to control it, and I've got it mildly.

It partly ruined my holiday as I wanted to Scuba dive on the great barrier reef in Aus, but as you need a medical certificate, no doctor would pass me no matter what the outcome of a lung capacity test was. As far as they were concerned, you have asthma, you cannot dive.

PEMBO · 11-12-2006, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by roo

It partly ruined my holiday as I wanted to Scuba dive on the great barrier reef in Aus, but as you need a medical certificate, no doctor would pass me no matter what the outcome of a lung capacity test was. As far as they were concerned, you have asthma, you cannot dive.

Really?!?!

Ive always wanted to go diving there.

Lummox · 11-12-2006, 19:58

My cousin has bad asthma. To the point where if she goes away for any length of time she has to take a neb with her just in case. Its been close a few times in hospital.

Best thing she ever did was change her doctor, he took her off the medication she was on and she has been much better since. She also suffers with bad nut allergies and eczema (was about 80% of her body when she was younger, now just her hands and feet) so she doesnt have alot of luck bless her. She got married this year though and has a young baby boy who is great so it just doesnt stop her.

PEMBO · 11-12-2006, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by M-03

My cousin has bad asthma. To the point where if she goes away for any length of time she has to take a neb with her just in case. Its been close a few times in hospital.

Best thing she ever did was change her doctor, he took her off the medication she was on and she has been much better since. She also suffers with bad nut allergies and eczema (was about 80% of her body when she was younger, now just her hands and feet) so she doesnt have alot of luck bless her. She got married this year though and has a young baby boy who is great so it just doesnt stop her.

I totally agree, I think some of the time the doctors are too heavily reliant on drugs to sort the problems out, which of course carry their own problems in the long run. Glad to hear she is ok.

Eczema is a pain in the backside like, I used to have it fairly bad but now I just have it on my knees and elbows which gets a bit annoying in the summer but I can live with it.

***800th post yay!!!***

**roo** · 11-12-2006, 20:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEMBO

Really?!?!

Ive always wanted to go diving there.

unfortunatly yes. You have to fill out a form asking for any medical history. You might get away with it if you are already qualified, but they will recommend not doing it.

PEMBO · 11-12-2006, 22:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by roo

unfortunatly yes. You have to fill out a form asking for any medical history. You might get away with it if you are already qualified, but they will recommend not doing it.

Never dived in my life but its one of them sort of things that I wanna do before I die.

pittVRS · 11-12-2006, 22:43

My sister and I used to have bad asthma as kids when we lived near to an open cast mine. We then moved to the coast and the asthma gradually got better. I grew out of it but My sis still suffers.

She recently was told to stop relying on the ventolin all the time and just take daily doses of the becotide (brown one). Since then her asthma has improved and she doesn't need the becotide as much and never uses ventolin now.

Good luck to those with more serious asthma though, it's a bain.

Moose · 11-12-2006, 22:47

Sorry to hear so many people have it. Good luck with keeping it under control though.

**roo** · 12-12-2006, 11:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by PEMBO

Never dived in my life but its one of them sort of things that I wanna do before I die.

it's fantastic. but you will need to have a medical before they will let you train.

30-09-2005, 20:38	#1
Gwilo Undercover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,693 Members Car: Rustwagon Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Asthma really blows So i was due to go out tonight, blow a few mental cobwebs out and cheer myself up with a couple of friends. ONly, my lovely lungs have other ideas. Stepped out of house, walked to my mates car and started to have breathing issues. Took a puff of an inhaler, but, nothing improved. So I'm now sat back at home, on a £$£$%££$ nebuliser inhaling Ventolin in aerosolised form, which is giving me the shakes. I really wanted to have a drink too, but probably not a wise idea now. Oh well. So, any other asthmatics out there in Briskoda? Care to share medicine info/coping strategies/ attack triggers etc? Dunno what set me off tonight. Maybe shift from hot dry house to wet and damp.......happens sometimes. __________________

30-09-2005, 22:29	#3
Gwilo Undercover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,693 Members Car: Rustwagon Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	thought the pulmicort was the preventer..... got bricanyl (blue twist bottom), oxis (green twist bottom) and pulmicort (brown twist). used to have serevent diskhaler. the ventolin nebules are for the really bad episodes, thankfully very rare (4-6 times a year now) somey pubs never help. main trigger for me i find is smoke, diesel exhaust (oh the irony!) and, wouldn't you know it, epic stress. __________________

01-10-2005, 17:08	#6
Gwilo Undercover Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 3,693 Members Car: Rustwagon Thanks: 17 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	mo.... cat stays firmly put....i just let her in the neighbours for feeding. no way could i allow her in to live with me. shame, cos she's a bit of a cutey as cats go. turns of softie mode re: meds - all up to date with dosages etc. joys of annual astham assessment/review. just one of the situations i prolly have to contend with. not that i usually go out friday, but would've been nice this time. looking fwd to steak tonight....cue an ag.morley type thread __________________

11-12-2006, 15:05	#7
auroan Briskoda Staff Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,912 Members Car: AUDI A4 B7 2.0 TDI SE Saloon Thanks: 212 Thanked 114 Times in 100 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows Well talk about up heaving an old thread... but I always found the more exercise I do the better my asthma is. I've now got it to the point that I'll only really feel wheezy now when I'm full of cold.

11-12-2006, 15:15	#8
ag.morley Insecure Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: right on track........ Posts: 4,948 Members Car: Volvo 2.4 T SE XC70 Auto running on LPG Thanks: 14 Thanked 79 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows mmmmmm.....I have a daily dose of Spiriva [Tiotropium] , 4 daily dose of Seretide [Fluticasone] and Ventolin as required. Mine not Asthma..............It's with Smoking......Packed up 23rd April 2005......Discusting Habit __________________ I now own a Volvo 2.4T Automatic V70 XC 4 wheel drive, Estate, running on LPG......In a Lovely shade of Gold "BRISKOLVO ".......THE UK'S ONLY MEMBER......." IT'S THE WAY FORWARD "

30-09-2005, 21:51	#2
Dave_Fox Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,028 Members Car: Vauxhall Astra VXR Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Yeah I am sort of. Luckily, I only suffer from mild asthma and have never really had a proper attack. The worst ive ever been was mountain biking in the Lakes; riding during the day was fine but got to the evening and felt like I was getting a cold. The smokey pub didnt help either. Got to bed that night and felt like I couldnt breathe- inhalers had run out (id never let that happen again) and these idiots were making me laugh Was quite chilly that night aswell. I just take small breaths in and out, keep as still as possible but try and keep my mind off it.......Usually colds/flu trigger mine so I up the dose of my Pulmicort. Do you use a preventer?

01-10-2005, 05:01	#4
MikeF Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north west uk (bury) Posts: 1,337 Members Car: Thanks: 54 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts	i'm ok except when i go from nice warm house to freezing cold outdoors in winter, so sounds like you suffer like me! I dontr catch the bus any more so that helps!!!!

01-10-2005, 15:42	#5
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,572 Members Car: Thanks: 52 Thanked 151 Times in 127 Posts	Hi Gwilo I am not a doctor and you must seek proper advice. As you have been looking after a neighbour's cat, much fluff and dander will be in your otherwise "free" environment. A good vacuuming of carpets, furniture and surfaces will not hurt, even if it doesn't help. Did you increase your daily dosage of Becotide (the brown one) and keep a blue (Salbutamol) handy at all times? Make sure these are not out of date! The body reacts to cold chill air, and potential chest infections, so should you be checking your preventers with the doc at this damp time of year? I have two air purifiers going permanently BTW. Have you checked with the doc the strength of steroid going into your nebuliser and how often you should be using it? Bad luck on a Friday night - hope you can look forward to tomorrow's Sunday lunch. Mo Best Mo

11-12-2006, 15:22	#9
damoh2k1 Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Rochdale Posts: 344 Members Car: ST Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows I've got Athsma! I have 4 doses of symbicort (which cotains steroids) twice a day Bricanyl Turbohailer as and when required. I also have some Steroid tablets of which I have to take 8 once a day when I am really bad. My attacks can be caused by pretty much anything. Caugh, Sneeze, running/any sport. Got worse over the last couple of years but now working to improve this by improveing my general fitness. I am also prone to chest infections. God I love my lungs! __________________

11-12-2006, 15:44	#10
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,572 Members Car: Thanks: 52 Thanked 151 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows I only know about it because of son's, which is OK in summer and comes back as soon as the air turns cold and damp - especially if any hint of a chest infection. As he trains or plays rugby almost every day, it can't be lack of exercise in his case. Anyway, I'm posting to say that he was prescribed a peak flow meter of his own (along with meds) last week, so as to monitor daily. The "preventers" are meant to keep it under control though, or must report back. Have to see how it goes. Regards Mo __________________

11-12-2006, 15:53	#11
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,259 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows I am a doctor - but it's not my specific field - I heard of a US study some time back that use Azithromycin antibiotic treatment to actually markedly improve/cure asthma - it may be an idea to do an internet search. If the results were valid, Azithromycin is an extremely safe antibiotic, you may find an open-minded GP to prescribe it for you, but it isn't exactly cheap unless a generic form is available in the UK. Otherwise it is down to identifying and avoiding known preciptating agents: inhaled allergens (boil/hot iron wet sheets frquently to kill dust mites) get an HEPA airpurifier, avoid oral aspirin, use a nebuliser before exercise. Inhaled therapy includes things like, IIRC: steroids (which are vital to prevent further long-term worsening) and ventolin (to tell the airways to open up directly). Oral agents are also available (not steroids) that can help - can't remember the name right now. Genuinely sorry to hear of your attack....Get better soon. One way of looking at it is, if you had been alright and actually gone out, something bad could have happened to you say on the motorway. It may have been a blessing in disguise perhaps? Get better soon Bas __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

11-12-2006, 16:13	#12
gillywibble Cuthbert Dibble Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Watching Tom peeping at Lady Godiva. Posts: 7,204 Members Car: Octavia Elegance 2.0 Tdi Thanks: 231 Thanked 270 Times in 225 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows I've had asthma since I was seven. I currently take Symbicort 400/12 two puffs twice a day and Salbutamol as required. If I am bad I can increase the Symbicort up to 4 puffs twice a day for short periods, although this is not recommended as it can weaken your bone structure. The Salbutamol inhaler I currently use is an 'Easyhaler' and has a counter on the side showing the number of doses left. Much better than the old sort. I probably use it too much but that's largely psychological. I can exercise fine as long as I warm up carefully. I can't run as this triggers it off, as does grass pollen and feathers. I used to be allergic to cats but am fine with them now. I have not had a full attack requiring hospital treatment since 1987, thanks largely to steroidal preventative medicine. Touch wood. __________________ I drink, therefore I spam.

11-12-2006, 19:11	#14
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,572 Members Car: Thanks: 52 Thanked 151 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows Hello Bas We have Erythromycin, which is an antibiotic often prescribed when penicillin is contra-indicated. I've not heard of it being used re asthma though. Goes off to research this Azithromycin thingy Regards Mo __________________

11-12-2006, 19:58	#17
Lummox Cupra Bush King Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 22,498 Members Car: Mk2 Golf GTi 16v and building a 20VT MK2. Images: 2 Thanks: 22 Thanked 761 Times in 639 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows My cousin has bad asthma. To the point where if she goes away for any length of time she has to take a neb with her just in case. Its been close a few times in hospital. Best thing she ever did was change her doctor, he took her off the medication she was on and she has been much better since. She also suffers with bad nut allergies and eczema (was about 80% of her body when she was younger, now just her hands and feet) so she doesnt have alot of luck bless her. She got married this year though and has a young baby boy who is great so it just doesnt stop her. __________________ www.unit18.co.uk Remapping Service now available, PM for details.

11-12-2006, 22:43	#21
pittVRS Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off The Wagon Posts: 5,268 Members Car: MX-5 Thanks: 148 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows My sister and I used to have bad asthma as kids when we lived near to an open cast mine. We then moved to the coast and the asthma gradually got better. I grew out of it but My sis still suffers. She recently was told to stop relying on the ventolin all the time and just take daily doses of the becotide (brown one). Since then her asthma has improved and she doesn't need the becotide as much and never uses ventolin now. Good luck to those with more serious asthma though, it's a bain. __________________

11-12-2006, 22:47	#22
Moose Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: I'm a monkey from outer space, woooooooo ahhhhhhhhh hehe hooohaa Posts: 4,938 Members Car: None Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Asthma really blows Sorry to hear so many people have it. Good luck with keeping it under control though. __________________ Sunlight Silver MX-5 1.8 Sport

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