lozgti

What ? Gordon Brown suggesting we have a' Britain' day like America's Independance day.

Britain disappeared ages ago.Couldn't even be bothered to join in celebratory tea parties celebrating well,whatever it is we are meant to celebrate

ScoobyChris

Can we make it this coming Monday? I fancy a long weekend

Chris

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spinndrift

If it means us getting another day off then I'm all for it.

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ag.morley

Me to............The chances you will have to save a day's annual leave to cover it.....As in Yorkshire "you don't get owt for nowt " ..

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heresmo

FWIW I confess to being puzzled. I understand that some believe we should blow our own trumpet to counter our tendency to take a modest line, but I don't understand what is expected to be achieved (Especially since the BNP, i.e. British National Party, will no doubt be delighted

As a multicultural country where one is lucky enough to be able to express his or her view, the idea of flying a flag (as if going into battle in armoured suits on horses) seems slightly odd to me since the country is rarely united (i.e. unanimous) on any issue.

Moving towards the idea of having British cheerleaders is something I'm sure many would cringe at, but just my opinion is all.

Mo

Moose

I say we just celebrate St George's Day for being St George's Day. And if we have any welsh or scots in, well, they have their own saints to worry about.

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flatfourburble

I'm with Andy!

Though I cant see the point of it! Nout to be proud off with this country!

As for St.Georges day, whats that my council will not let people fly the flag as is may cause racial tension between people. Yet St.Patricks day is allowed. weird

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LittlePaul

Even if it does get created, the PC do-gooders will have us not using the Union Flag, renaming it "Celebration Day" (following on from renaming "Christmas Lights" "Festive Lights", and frowning on eating British Food that day!

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Moose

Yeah, Fish and Chips will be banned, as will pies and mash no doubt. So in actual effect, British Day won't actually celebrate Britain. I can bet you though it will be expensive and over commercial.

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Fluffmeister

Nothing to be proud of in this country, not sure I agree, perhaps in modern times with the apathy that flies around and the large doses of PC.

But we should not forget our heritage just because we are now "muliticultural" this tiny island once presided over the largest empire the world has ever seen. It stood alone in the face of Nazi opression until the Japanese bombed pearl harbour, defeated the French (many times).

The sad thing is that the flag is slowly being associated with lunatics like the bnp, so what is wrong with Browns suggestion to take it back and make it something to be proud of.


If it means an extra day off then thats cool with me, but why not take a day just to celebrate being british, regardless of your colour or religion?

walkie

Ohhhhh that makes my blood boil.

I mean you live in England right, its the English flag is it not? Next year make a point of putting up as many English flags as you can on St. Georges day.

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Octygone

But did you know you cant fly the union flag without permission !!!!! any flag from any other country is OK but you must not fly your countries flag ....the USA have got it right ...they are proud to be american ......are you proud to be British ...if you live here thats what you are after all ..British

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lozgti

Does driving a mini with a Union Jack on the roof count

LittlePaul

I think that'll be a Union Flag then, unless you have a picture of a pole on the roof...

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JPreston

Any of you patriots can enlighten me as to what St George actually did, and who was he? And do you have to be martyred to be canonised?

Wayne Kerr

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I've got a feeling that St George wasn't actually English - not that that helps much (I guess Googling would be a better solution). Not sure about canonisation either - I thought it was to do with some sort of evidence of miracles or other seemingly direct link to the Almighty. That said, the question probably should be what the rules were for canonisation in St George's time. That doesn't help much either LOL. Where's Spinndrift when you need him...

On topic though, Brown has taken great pains to stress that it's meant to be "British" day, though several surveys have shown that no-one really knows what being British is meant to stand for.

If anyone could agree on that, perhaps a new symbol could be added to the flag. There's quite a lot in our earlier history that I don't feel particularly proud about at all (Crusades, slavery, colonisation by force et al); "current" might be a better celebration, but Britain is not really special in that many countries promote good causes.

If I'm in any way representative, I'd be happy to celebrate if I knew what I was celebrating. Can someone provide a few pointers please?

Mo

Tigger_1979

Rule Britainnia Britainnia rules the waves Britain never never never shale be slaves

Britain Day I feel Should have something to do with remembering our Mighty Empire

can anyone actually remember all the countries we had?

Cananda
New Zealand
USA
Australia
Hong Kong
???

there the ones I remeber what else was there?

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ag.morley

I think at one time we had about 50 commonwealth country's

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jason

http://www.royalsocietyofstgeorge.co...ofstgeorge.htm
why is there nothing to be proud of in this country?aren't we one of the richest countries in the world?ok its not perfect,but we're in far better a state than 90% of the rest of the planet.
we are the worlds biggets whingers though

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ag.morley

Try this....http://www.execulink.com/~donslau/BC.html

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heresmo

Well, I was kinda hoping that someone would provide a list of things we can be proud of...

Being rich is not really an accolade in my book, since that's probably true of any country which has learned to exploit others and has not suffered from the droughts, famines and political disingenuousness of funds distribution that other countries have/do.

We are lucky IMO that Britain is in a temperate zone; also that our exports now survive more from the knowledge market than the goods market (the latter of which we have few; heaven help our reliance on others if push comes to shove) to the extent that, like many others, we are at the behest of others - in our case probably most particularly those who can supply energy to us.

Anyone have such a list?

Mo

walkie

We should be proud because of the time and effort gone into saving this whale, and the huge support from the public

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JPreston

Agree with everything you've posted, and good link on St George too. Not that being rich is of itself something to celebrate but it does mean that every single one is vastly better off than about 98% of everyone alive today or who has ever lived. We are also a secular society, a reasonable society, a liberal society, and so IMHO streets ahead of larger economies like the US and China both of which have appalling injustice and inequality. All things being equal though I'd still rather live in Japan, they just have the better gadgets

Definitely the planets biggest whingers though.

Also interesting to reflect that St George was either Turkish, Syrian or Palestinian, had military training and while he was happy to go and live in the Roman empire, criticised it and refused to renounce his faith.

While he never set foot in this country, if he did come today how would he be viewed by the Daily Mail-reading flag-wavers? Don't think he'd be beatified anyway