Diet or exercise?

skodayouth · 25-12-2006, 18:35

I need some advice here on this little problem Iv'e been having,

Last Winter, I told myself I would go on a diet so I could be a bit slimmer for the summer. To be fair to myself I disciplined myself. I didnt start eating particularly heathily but I stuck to my 3 main meals and cut out all the junk food and unnecessary food (There was alot).

It worked a treat, and my waist went from about 34" to about 26" and it is still at that point this winter,

Thing is i I don't look any thinner. I actually look fatter because all of the weight loss happened on my waist (And I mean all of it) so now my tummy looks fatter than it did before. I was told that I didn't need to diet, I needed to exercise instead. I did try sit ups e.t.c, but I screwed my back, even though I was doing them properly. I don't want some sort of six pack, but I want the point from my chest to my waist to be flat, i.e toned.

So does anyone know what I should do, is it exercise or diet or both that I need to reach my goal for next summer?

Dr Zoidberg · 25-12-2006, 19:07

You will look and feel healthier if you eat a reasonable amount of healthy food , then build up your muscles as you burn it off.

If you try and do it all by exercise then you'll get frustrated by the lack of results.
If you try and do it all by diet then you'll fell run down with no energy and won't end up the shape you want

sam_b · 25-12-2006, 21:01

Diet or Excercise??
The eternal question....
One without the other is pointless really....

Josh_PoloGTi · 25-12-2006, 21:28

I'm going to start doing both in the new year.

I'm fat

cheezemonkhai · 25-12-2006, 22:17

A combination of diet and exercise is always good.

I find going to the gym really refreshing, not to mention that other forms of exercise are good too.

akron · 26-12-2006, 01:05

Both.
Eat plenty of 'healthy food, then get out into the best gym of all, and it's free apart from travel and clobber....walking in the hills. Far more enjoyable than knackering yourself out on a ruddy rowng machine etc. Cheaper and more fullfilling too imo.

ric04vrs · 26-12-2006, 01:15

agreed , both is required, because "a greed" is what i have had this last year to make me as unfit as i am , i will be out on my mountain bike if/when i sober up from todays excesses , LOL

akron · 26-12-2006, 10:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by ric04vrs

agreed , both is required, because "a greed" is what i have had this last year to make me as unfit as i am , i will be out on my mountain bike if/when i sober up from todays excesses , LOL

Same her. Just diggin' those boots out ready for burning off all those excessive calories consumed yesterday.
Going to have to be SOME walk though.

Love biking too, but bit of a p.i.t.a. transporting them around though.

***Neo_VR*** · 26-12-2006, 11:57

Basically the key to weight-loss is to eat less calories than you burn in a day... that puts you in a calorie deficit..

Problem is this *needs* to be combined with exercise... because muscles have a higher mantinence energy level than fat stores do (muscle burns calories to maintain its mass) given the choice, the body will break-down the muscle tissue before the fat...

so basically youve probably lost alot of muscle mass(which is hevier than fat), but the majority of fat is still on your body.

you have to exercise to keep the muscles active... then the body will break down the fat stores instead... if you balance it right, your muscles will probably not grow much.. but it will accellerate your burning fat by about 5-fold..

theres a good diet/exercise plan on Mansized that im going to start in the new year... theres loads of helpful advice

I will do a bit of a briskoda de-tox too if anyones up for it

ric04vrs · 26-12-2006, 21:45

i don't seem to have put much weight on over the last year , but my waistband of my jeans would say otherwise , i lost muscle bulk due to lack of exercise, especially off my legs (no cycling) and just put fat on

Mr Grumpy · 26-12-2006, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neo_VR

Basically the key to weight-loss is to eat less calories than you burn in a day... that puts you in a calorie deficit..

Problem is this *needs* to be combined with exercise... because muscles have a higher mantinence energy level than fat stores do (muscle burns calories to maintain its mass) given the choice, the body will break-down the muscle tissue before the fat...

so basically youve probably lost alot of muscle mass(which is hevier than fat), but the majority of fat is still on your body.

you have to exercise to keep the muscles active... then the body will break down the fat stores instead... if you balance it right, your muscles will probably not grow much.. but it will accellerate your burning fat by about 5-fold..

theres a good diet/exercise plan on Mansized that im going to start in the new year... theres loads of helpful advice

I will do a bit of a briskoda de-tox too if anyones up for it

This is probably the only post of yours I have ever understood and made sense of

I agree totally.
I may have an unhealthy lifestyle re eating times/sleeping times as I work shifts, but for my age, and the fact I like a drink, I am in reasonable shape because I try to eat low fat food and plenty of fresh veg.
Although I enjoy a bacon sarnie, I often have 2 bananas and a couple of raw carrots for breakfast, which I am sure helps.

***Neo_VR*** · 27-12-2006, 00:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy

This is probably the only post of yours I have ever understood and made sense of

I agree totally.
I may have an unhealthy lifestyle re eating times/sleeping times as I work shifts, but for my age, and the fact I like a drink, I am in reasonable shape because I try to eat low fat food and plenty of fresh veg.
Although I enjoy a bacon sarnie, I often have 2 bananas and a couple of raw carrots for breakfast, which I am sure helps.

PMSL glad someone understands me

i only drink diet coke so should be in great shape....... urrr

The whole thing is basically a balancing act.. it all started for me when i got my 2nd job... my first job was as a mechanic.. so was pretty active and ate accordingly (altho it was all crap) problem came because 2nd job was a desk-job, and my eating habits didnt get kurbed... hence i put on several stone VERY quickly

and ive never really managed to get rid of them.... that was 5 years ago.

Calories in must roughly = or be less than calories burned to stay in shape/weight..
without regular exercise (i use this term very loosely.. any activity that involves moving is exercise) the body will burn unused muscle to economise.. eg so the body "costs" less calories to run... so if you had the same calorie intake every day and didnt exersise.. eventually you would start to *get fat* - note i didnt say put on weight... muscle is hevier than fat.
Again.. in my case i actually weigh 1/2 stone less than my heviest.. but im definatley in worse shape now then i was then.

25-12-2006, 18:35	#1
skodayouth Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 756 Members Car: Octavia II 1.9TDI DSG Elegance Estate Thanks: 8 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Diet or exercise? I need some advice here on this little problem Iv'e been having, Last Winter, I told myself I would go on a diet so I could be a bit slimmer for the summer. To be fair to myself I disciplined myself. I didnt start eating particularly heathily but I stuck to my 3 main meals and cut out all the junk food and unnecessary food (There was alot). It worked a treat, and my waist went from about 34" to about 26" and it is still at that point this winter, Thing is i I don't look any thinner. I actually look fatter because all of the weight loss happened on my waist (And I mean all of it) so now my tummy looks fatter than it did before. I was told that I didn't need to diet, I needed to exercise instead. I did try sit ups e.t.c, but I screwed my back, even though I was doing them properly. I don't want some sort of six pack, but I want the point from my chest to my waist to be flat, i.e toned. So does anyone know what I should do, is it exercise or diet or both that I need to reach my goal for next summer? __________________ Skoda Octava II Estate 1.9DSG Elegance Anthracite Grey Skoda Fabia 3 1.6 Tiptronic Storm Blue

25-12-2006, 19:07	#2
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,745 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 30 Thanked 194 Times in 145 Posts	Re: Diet or exercise? You will look and feel healthier if you eat a reasonable amount of healthy food , then build up your muscles as you burn it off. If you try and do it all by exercise then you'll get frustrated by the lack of results. If you try and do it all by diet then you'll fell run down with no energy and won't end up the shape you want __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

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26-12-2006, 01:05	#6
akron Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 167 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Diet or exercise? Both. Eat plenty of 'healthy food, then get out into the best gym of all, and it's free apart from travel and clobber....walking in the hills. Far more enjoyable than knackering yourself out on a ruddy rowng machine etc. Cheaper and more fullfilling too imo.

26-12-2006, 01:15	#7
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,165 Members Car: silver Fabia VRS Thanks: 31 Thanked 188 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Diet or exercise? agreed , both is required, because "a greed" is what i have had this last year to make me as unfit as i am , i will be out on my mountain bike if/when i sober up from todays excesses , LOL __________________ not so bored now

26-12-2006, 11:57	#9
*Neo_VR* Om nom nom nom Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 12,480 Members Car: A White Car Thanks: 79 Thanked 175 Times in 124 Posts	Re: Diet or exercise? Basically the key to weight-loss is to eat less calories than you burn in a day... that puts you in a calorie deficit.. Problem is this needs to be combined with exercise... because muscles have a higher mantinence energy level than fat stores do (muscle burns calories to maintain its mass) given the choice, the body will break-down the muscle tissue before the fat... so basically youve probably lost alot of muscle mass(which is hevier than fat), but the majority of fat is still on your body. you have to exercise to keep the muscles active... then the body will break down the fat stores instead... if you balance it right, your muscles will probably not grow much.. but it will accellerate your burning fat by about 5-fold.. theres a good diet/exercise plan on Mansized that im going to start in the new year... theres loads of helpful advice I will do a bit of a briskoda de-tox too if anyones up for it __________________ ColGod the UberMod ,___, [O.o] /)__) -"--"- ORLY?? Last edited by Neo_VR; 26-12-2006 at 11:59.

26-12-2006, 21:45	#10
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,165 Members Car: silver Fabia VRS Thanks: 31 Thanked 188 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Diet or exercise? i don't seem to have put much weight on over the last year , but my waistband of my jeans would say otherwise , i lost muscle bulk due to lack of exercise, especially off my legs (no cycling) and just put fat on __________________ not so bored now

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