Do You Believe in God?

pittVRS · 02-09-2008, 14:55

Some very interesting points raised from both sides. I do think religion has a role to play in the general morals of society, however the people at the top of the chain are usually the ones who are the most hypocritical.

KLM · 02-09-2008, 15:21

Religion is the sanctuary for the insecure, who are then exploited.

Pay up and shut up. Do as we say not as we do.

skodagirl1985 · 02-09-2008, 15:23

It is true that having a belief in God is a comfort through the difficult times. Just now I am going though a difficult time with being unemployed and my health not being too great. One thing that has kept me going is my faith in God and that he will help me through the difficult time. I have often felt like giving up and wondered what God is doing and if he is still there but I don't think I could get through it myself.

Kaiserb_uk · 02-09-2008, 15:38

As Simon Amstell said to Jermaine Jackson (former evangelical Christian and current Musilm - I think):

"It's okay, they're both right!"

Religion is for the weak willed, the rudderless, the gullible and the morally bereft. IMO of course.

lozgti · 02-09-2008, 15:44

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Originally Posted by pittVRS

however the people at the top of the chain are usually the ones who are the most hypocritical.

So,so true.

I'm very disappointed with the way the Cof E is behaving and secondly,most of the older (60's plus age) I know that go to Church I have found to be the most awful nasty people.

Still,I admire Muslims,Roman Catholics and Sikhs to name but a few that seem to be far more family orientated and I believe that is related to their way of thinking (shame they are tainted by idiots who actually don't understand their own religion...).

The Cof E I find embarrassing at the moment so I don't go to Church,havn't for years and just say my prayers privately at home.Believe it or not,I get a good nights sleep when I do!

KLM · 02-09-2008, 16:40

Why is 'God' always male?

Captain Sisko · 02-09-2008, 16:54

Not always the case as in Hinduism there are Goddesses.

For God to exist there must be a devil too as for there to be good there is also a bad but isnt that part of life to go through the bad times as well as the good as othing is ever plain sailing.
But thats off topic.

I think Captain Kirks question in ST5 was good. What does God need with a starship?

In my case I want to believe in something but what as it always seems to be bad people getting all the attention like rapist lottery winners etc.

fatty5000 · 02-09-2008, 17:07

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Originally Posted by KLM

Why is 'God' always male?

He's not ......he's Alanis Morrisette

Wet Kipper · 02-09-2008, 19:14

well, I'll stand up and be counted amongst the "believers" here.

KTP · 02-09-2008, 19:22

i'm a bit of a satanist, i believe in myself.
what happens in my life is through my doing and choices.

runboy · 02-09-2008, 19:24

I'm not a believer, but I am happy for others to take whatever religion they wish. What I am against is people who come to my door trying to push their beliefs.

Lummox · 02-09-2008, 19:27

I don't believe in god.

But it doesn't mean I ain't scared of him.

Conshine · 02-09-2008, 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lummox

I don't believe in god.

But it doesn't mean I ain't scared of him.

Lummox, that is just the right quote there for me....

spinndrift · 02-09-2008, 20:16

Despite my name I have a theory.

I firmly believe that the bible was written by a group of ancient dyslexic philosiphors and are actually a collection of stories about a dog.

cjb · 02-09-2008, 20:17

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Originally Posted by runboy

I'm not a believer, but I am happy for others to take whatever religion they wish. What I am against is people who come to my door trying to push their beliefs.

The best deflection technique I've heard of is "Hello! Come in. Would you like to star in the adult movie I'm filming?".

Kaiserb_uk · 02-09-2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by spinndrift

Despite my name I have a theory.

I firmly believe that the bible was written by a group of ancient dyslexic philosiphors and are actually a collection of stories about a dog.

That'll be the one about the dyslexic agnostic insomniac who lay awake at night wondering if there is a dog.

Aspman · 03-09-2008, 09:14

Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

It's true I tell you. I've been touched by his noodly appendage

Proof -

Quote:

The above photo was provided by Pastafarian Eric. I will assume it’s legitimate unless someone proves otherwise (as per all matters of religion).

apinner · 03-09-2008, 09:58

I am very much a none believer, a complete load of hogwash and the number one cause of wars since time began, and has probably killed more people than aids, malaria and cancer combined! It amazes me how generally intelligent peoples common sense is so blinded by make believe.

The meaning of life, there is no meaning we simply fill an evolutionary gap. Quite sad really.

jec · 03-09-2008, 10:21

I believe in aliens, does that count?

fatty5000 · 03-09-2008, 10:45

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Originally Posted by jec

I believe in aliens, does that count?

Your not a scientologist are you ?????

jec · 03-09-2008, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatty5000

Your not a scientologist are you ?????

No, I don't have any religion, but I do think there are aliens out there somewhere

fatty5000 · 03-09-2008, 11:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by jec

No, I don't have any religion, but I do think there are aliens out there somewhere

I totally agree with you, there can't be all that space and just us.

Petr · 03-09-2008, 12:47

Interesting thread, fanatics are also amongst aitheists BTW, just if you didn't know. Any belief system can become quickly corrupt and amended to the needs of few. One has to take responsibility for his/her actions regardless of belief.

I am a believer, unusual one perhaps, I think both Big Bang Theory and Creation idea are equally whacky. You go ask scientists what was before Big Bang...

Perhaps the biggest religion of today is science. They can make any claims and we bow down...... right?

For those who like to read - the book "Darwin's Mistake...." by Hans J. Zilmer can be interesting.

Cheers to all

MikeF · 03-09-2008, 13:06

i dont believe in god and i dont believe in all that reincarnation nonsence.

i do believe that somewhere in the universe there is other life but i dont believe in little grey aliens!

rurwin · 03-09-2008, 13:49

I believe in all religions, including atheism.

God isn't always male. In fact it's almost exactly 50:50. Jehova and Allah, perceived correctly are genderless, as are all monotheistic gods. (There is only one monotheism - see Robert Persig for details.) Of the others, the guy at the top is the monotheistic avatar, and the others are usually paired.

BTW, IIUC, in the original, the Holy Spirit, AKA the Spirit that moved on the face of the waters, and the first incarnation of God mentioned in the Bible, is female. Unfortunately Greek does not have genders, so that fact was lost.

02-09-2008, 14:55	#26
pittVRS Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Off The Wagon Posts: 5,257 Members Car: MX-5 Thanks: 148 Thanked 113 Times in 79 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? Some very interesting points raised from both sides. I do think religion has a role to play in the general morals of society, however the people at the top of the chain are usually the ones who are the most hypocritical. __________________

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KLM Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 682 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 97 Thanked 50 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? Religion is the sanctuary for the insecure, who are then exploited. Pay up and shut up. Do as we say not as we do.

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skodagirl1985 Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: East Lothian Posts: 1,620 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Vrs 130 Thanks: 46 Thanked 20 Times in 20 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? It is true that having a belief in God is a comfort through the difficult times. Just now I am going though a difficult time with being unemployed and my health not being too great. One thing that has kept me going is my faith in God and that he will help me through the difficult time. I have often felt like giving up and wondered what God is doing and if he is still there but I don't think I could get through it myself.

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Kaiserb_uk Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Leighton Buzzard Posts: 1,420 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 10 Thanked 45 Times in 39 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? As Simon Amstell said to Jermaine Jackson (former evangelical Christian and current Musilm - I think): "It's okay, they're both right!" Religion is for the weak willed, the rudderless, the gullible and the morally bereft. IMO of course. __________________ Offended? spEak You're bRanes MCSA:M CompTIA:Security+ Mods:Nearly enough

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Petr Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sheffield & Czech Republic Posts: 189 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? Interesting thread, fanatics are also amongst aitheists BTW, just if you didn't know. Any belief system can become quickly corrupt and amended to the needs of few. One has to take responsibility for his/her actions regardless of belief. I am a believer, unusual one perhaps, I think both Big Bang Theory and Creation idea are equally whacky. You go ask scientists what was before Big Bang... Perhaps the biggest religion of today is science. They can make any claims and we bow down...... right? For those who like to read - the book "Darwin's Mistake...." by Hans J. Zilmer can be interesting. Cheers to all

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MikeF Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north west uk (bury) Posts: 1,337 Members Car: Thanks: 54 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? i dont believe in god and i dont believe in all that reincarnation nonsence. i do believe that somewhere in the universe there is other life but i dont believe in little grey aliens!

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rurwin Briskodian Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 151 Members Car: Octavia Estate 1.9TDI Elegence Thanks: 5 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Do You Believe in God? I believe in all religions, including atheism. God isn't always male. In fact it's almost exactly 50:50. Jehova and Allah, perceived correctly are genderless, as are all monotheistic gods. (There is only one monotheism - see Robert Persig for details.) Of the others, the guy at the top is the monotheistic avatar, and the others are usually paired. BTW, IIUC, in the original, the Holy Spirit, AKA the Spirit that moved on the face of the waters, and the first incarnation of God mentioned in the Bible, is female. Unfortunately Greek does not have genders, so that fact was lost.

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