Eczema

pixi · 17-12-2006, 22:07

About a couple of months ago I thought I had an allergy. My eyelids had swollen up and I was fighting the urge to scratch constantly. I asked one of the Docs at work to take a look and he said it looked like an allergy. It got progressively worse and I was a bloody mess when I woke up most mornings. I bought some Piriton but that just wiped me out so I went to my GP to get another anti histamine that was non-drowsy. She thought the swollon eyelids were down to make up but I went back to her the other day no better and she has told me I have Eczema

I have always been the sensitive type

and had to be careful with washing powder etc and had hoped that this was just a reaction to something that will sort itself out. I just seem to be getting worse even with the stuff she's given me to put on my skin. I am getting yelled at all the time for scratching but it's so satisfying, until the pain kicks in

What the heck can I do???

P.S. this thread has taken me ages to write because I keep having to stop for a scratch

20VLIL · 17-12-2006, 22:14

I would deffo stop using what your GP has precribed if its making you worse or seem worse and go back.
Have you changed any other habits i.e. washing powders, perfumes??
Is it anywhere else??
Can I ask what you were prescribed??

pixi · 17-12-2006, 22:21

I have done nought but wracked my brains since the beginning and can't think of anything. I was given a cream beginning with E

it's downstairs at the moment. Emovate or something, I had a 0.5 cortisone cream for my eyes. she also told me to buy some aqueous moisturiser but my skin isn't dry, just bleeding itchy and feels like it's on fire right now

ric04vrs · 17-12-2006, 22:28

iirc eczema can also be brought on by stress

Mr Grumpy · 17-12-2006, 22:29

In the olden days they would just burn you.......
You might be allergic to your new posh watch.

:
It could be that you have experienced a change in your hormonal system ( age you know) and you are no longer tolerant to things you once were.
I would try cutting out things one by one to see if it helps.
i.e. don't wear acrylic one week, avoid caffeine the next etc.
It may be a chore, but it might help.
Otherwise, just be a scratter, and blame it on the cat

pixi · 17-12-2006, 22:30

My job can be stressful but I wouldn't say I'm stressed at the moment. I had reflexology recentely and was told my centre of emotion was very balanced

pixi · 17-12-2006, 22:32

A couple of problems there Grumps, I don't get my new watch until Christmas day, I couldn't do early shifts without caffeine and I don't own a cat

20VLIL · 17-12-2006, 22:33

Eumovate....its supposed to stop itching but can be quite brutal stuff.
Cortisone cream is very irritating, you only need a wee bit and should never use it all the time as I've seen it burn people.
Aqueous cream may at least soothe your itch but only that..
Sorry....trying to rack my poor old brain

pixi · 17-12-2006, 22:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by 20VLIL

Aqueous cream may at least soothe your itch but only that..

Off to dowse myself in the stuff, I'll be back

Basil · 18-12-2006, 07:07

I see this sort of thing fairly frequently at work. Never jump to the conclusion that it's eczema if you're an adult and never had it before.
Anyone with sensitive skin scratching will end up with a classical weepy "eczema" of the eyelids.
Often I find that there's a bacterial infection of the meibomian glands of the lids.
And any eyedrops with preservative makes the whole thing worse by fuelling the allergic component.
OK it needs examination by an ophthalmologist, but if I was going to treat "blindly" I would use a 3 day course of Zithromax or a a 3 week course of Tetracycline, oral Telfast daily for the itch (other antihistamines do sedate) and cold teabags to soothe (tannic acid in tea is a natural astringent). NO STEROIDS even on the lids unless your eye pressure is monitored (steroids on the lids can cause glaucoma in about 5% of the population!)

If I can help any more PM me

Cheers
Bas work website :Al Basil Eye Clinic

SkodiRS · 18-12-2006, 09:08

Try aqueous cream....it's not at all oily and can be washed off with water.

I have eczema and find it very good.

MissPiggy · 18-12-2006, 10:51

i used to have some cream-cant remember what it was. and when i put it on, my feet would itch more than ever, but i just had to put up with it-even if it meant eating the pillow, and then after a while it will go away or i would fall asleep.

TeflonTom · 18-12-2006, 11:10

i get exactly the same thing too, itchy eyelids which i just cant stop scratching till me eyes go red and i cant see properly... i get it about 5 times a year at least..... i also get really dry skin on my knuckles and elbows at the same time as having the itchy eyes....

cheezemonkhai · 18-12-2006, 11:12

Maybe you are alergic to the furby Pixi.

pixi · 18-12-2006, 12:55

My eyelids are fine now (with the steroid) and were never weepy just swollen. It's my legs and my arms that are driving me mad, I put Eumovate aswell as the Aqueous cream on last night but it wasn't great. I ended up dead to the world thanks to Phenergan until 11.00 am so I couldn't scratch in my sleep

I'm not convinced it's Eczema personally, my skin is not dry or flaky

MissPiggy · 18-12-2006, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixi

I'm not convinced it's Eczema personally, my skin is not dry or flaky

dosent have to be. wouldnt say my hand was dry or flaky but got ezema on it! make sure your not constantly covering them either

Basil · 18-12-2006, 14:25

I repeat - I see cases of glaucoma/cataract in eczema sufferers who have over-done steroid use of any sort, even on the eyelids. Less than a week of therapy is probably safe, but fully 5% of the population are what are known as "steroid responders" and will show a pressure rise in the eyes after about 2-3 weeks.

I can tell you some real-life horror stories that I've seen......

heresmo · 18-12-2006, 17:04

I am not a doctor (as you'll know). I wouldn't take anything (pills) or use any chemicals for a while at all, if this is a new thing? (Cos you ain't got a clue what's causing what.)

Perhaps go to back to basics - plain water in the bath with just a flannel and drink lots of plain water? You say you have have bloating as well, and that to me means something you're eating, unles of course it's atmospherical chemicals (e.g. air fresheners). Probs no help at all, but being a sensitive soul (and skin) also, I always reckon that taking things away is better than adding things to, if you see what I mean.

Best
Mo

Edit - That's just me - sorry, forgot to say that.

pixi · 18-12-2006, 23:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by heresmo

You say you have have bloating as well

nope, I don't have bloating!

I'm gonna give these creams a chance and after applying them this morning I've been not so bad. I'm hoping it's just a bad batch of washing powder or something at the same time as using a different mascara causing my swollen eyelids.

Mr Grumpy · 18-12-2006, 23:48

Are you Pregnant?
At the time of life when your hormones go beserk?
As I recall you are a short person that lives on an Island...
Visit the nearest Hostipal asap, and get a Visa and some pills, and immediately buy a caravan and a Volvo.
When I next see you in Cleethorpes on a wet bank holiday weekend, you will be cured

HTH, Love Grumpy

pixi · 18-12-2006, 23:58

Actually I did see a rather nice Volvo in yesterdays paper that I was reading earlier. <------ I would've inserted the rubchin smiley here, but I don't seem to be able to access the pop up smiley page. My life is over

heresmo · 19-12-2006, 00:26

Just get Mr G to give you the cartesian coordinates and teleport yourself to Cleethorpes Pixi? They have lovely sand for making sandcastles there

As you also have nice sand, you'll already have a bucket and spade packed up and ready

On topic, there are a couple of so-called "gentle" shampoos which, if I use in the shower, make me think I've got headlice, fleas and scurvy

Luckily, I've learned to recognise this and empty them down the loo pronto. Ditto certain washing powders. Strangely, the liquid form of acceptable washing powders is still a no-no for me.

Best
Mo

Quetz VRS · 19-12-2006, 13:00

Betamethasone Velrate (Betnovate)

Ask if that will be ok to use, not sure if it will be to strong for your case. I use it because my skin is so dry it makes the Saharra Destert a huge lake

This time of year i get major cracks and damn do the hurt

but I use that and moistriser Vasaline Intensive Care which replaces natural lipids which has help tremendously over the last 2 years.

But ask anyway, it is soothing and a topical steroid cream which is very fast acting

Q

ap0gee · 19-12-2006, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkodiRS

Try aqueous cream....it's not at all oily and can be washed off with water.

I have eczema and find it very good.

SWMBO gets eczema and tried loads of stuff without much success. These days, when she gets a flare-up, she just washes with aqueous cream instead of soap and it calms down after a few days. Plus, you can buy it at the supermarket so she doesn't have to see the doctor every time!

HTH

Basil · 19-12-2006, 16:31

I just found a study on a home-made cream mixture of olive oil, honey and beeswax that I've used for eczema patients in the past with success. I seem to remember that it made the skin heal well.
POC to make just heat up beeswax, olive oil and honey in a double-boiler and stir.
Makes regular skin silky smooth too.
Pixi, I'll email you a copy of the scientific study that proves how good it works.

Cheers
Bas

17-12-2006, 22:07	#1
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Eczema About a couple of months ago I thought I had an allergy. My eyelids had swollen up and I was fighting the urge to scratch constantly. I asked one of the Docs at work to take a look and he said it looked like an allergy. It got progressively worse and I was a bloody mess when I woke up most mornings. I bought some Piriton but that just wiped me out so I went to my GP to get another anti histamine that was non-drowsy. She thought the swollon eyelids were down to make up but I went back to her the other day no better and she has told me I have Eczema I have always been the sensitive type and had to be careful with washing powder etc and had hoped that this was just a reaction to something that will sort itself out. I just seem to be getting worse even with the stuff she's given me to put on my skin. I am getting yelled at all the time for scratching but it's so satisfying, until the pain kicks in What the heck can I do??? P.S. this thread has taken me ages to write because I keep having to stop for a scratch __________________

17-12-2006, 22:14	#2
20VLIL Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Isle Of Wight Posts: 800 Members Car: Big fat V6 Superb Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Eczema I would deffo stop using what your GP has precribed if its making you worse or seem worse and go back. Have you changed any other habits i.e. washing powders, perfumes?? Is it anywhere else?? Can I ask what you were prescribed?? __________________ NIGHTFIRE BLUE SUPERB COMFORT 2.5TDI V6!!! NOW SOLD Last edited by 20VLIL; 17-12-2006 at 22:16.

17-12-2006, 22:21	#3
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Eczema I have done nought but wracked my brains since the beginning and can't think of anything. I was given a cream beginning with E it's downstairs at the moment. Emovate or something, I had a 0.5 cortisone cream for my eyes. she also told me to buy some aqueous moisturiser but my skin isn't dry, just bleeding itchy and feels like it's on fire right now __________________

17-12-2006, 22:28	#4
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,166 Members Car: silver Fabia VRS Thanks: 31 Thanked 187 Times in 181 Posts	Re: Eczema iirc eczema can also be brought on by stress __________________ not so bored now

17-12-2006, 22:29	#5
Mr Grumpy I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On bail... Posts: 4,675 Members Car: Office chair..... Thanks: 8 Thanked 159 Times in 95 Posts	Re: Eczema In the olden days they would just burn you....... You might be allergic to your new posh watch. : It could be that you have experienced a change in your hormonal system ( age you know) and you are no longer tolerant to things you once were. I would try cutting out things one by one to see if it helps. i.e. don't wear acrylic one week, avoid caffeine the next etc. It may be a chore, but it might help. Otherwise, just be a scratter, and blame it on the cat __________________ S50 VRS Number Plate for sale..ffs someone must want it....

17-12-2006, 22:30	#6
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Eczema My job can be stressful but I wouldn't say I'm stressed at the moment. I had reflexology recentely and was told my centre of emotion was very balanced __________________

17-12-2006, 22:32	#7
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Eczema A couple of problems there Grumps, I don't get my new watch until Christmas day, I couldn't do early shifts without caffeine and I don't own a cat __________________

17-12-2006, 22:33	#8
20VLIL Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Isle Of Wight Posts: 800 Members Car: Big fat V6 Superb Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Eczema Eumovate....its supposed to stop itching but can be quite brutal stuff. Cortisone cream is very irritating, you only need a wee bit and should never use it all the time as I've seen it burn people. Aqueous cream may at least soothe your itch but only that.. Sorry....trying to rack my poor old brain __________________ NIGHTFIRE BLUE SUPERB COMFORT 2.5TDI V6!!! NOW SOLD

18-12-2006, 07:07	#10
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,255 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Eczema I see this sort of thing fairly frequently at work. Never jump to the conclusion that it's eczema if you're an adult and never had it before. Anyone with sensitive skin scratching will end up with a classical weepy "eczema" of the eyelids. Often I find that there's a bacterial infection of the meibomian glands of the lids. And any eyedrops with preservative makes the whole thing worse by fuelling the allergic component. OK it needs examination by an ophthalmologist, but if I was going to treat "blindly" I would use a 3 day course of Zithromax or a a 3 week course of Tetracycline, oral Telfast daily for the itch (other antihistamines do sedate) and cold teabags to soothe (tannic acid in tea is a natural astringent). NO STEROIDS even on the lids unless your eye pressure is monitored (steroids on the lids can cause glaucoma in about 5% of the population!) If I can help any more PM me Cheers Bas work website :Al Basil Eye Clinic __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

18-12-2006, 09:08	#11
SkodiRS BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: darkest Hampshire Posts: 8,650 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Eczema Try aqueous cream....it's not at all oily and can be washed off with water. I have eczema and find it very good. __________________ Adrian.

18-12-2006, 10:51	#12
MissPiggy Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 7,190 Members Car: fabia 2 Thanks: 24 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Eczema i used to have some cream-cant remember what it was. and when i put it on, my feet would itch more than ever, but i just had to put up with it-even if it meant eating the pillow, and then after a while it will go away or i would fall asleep.

18-12-2006, 11:10	#13
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 8,240 Members Car: Fabia 2.0/Felicia Thanks: 48 Thanked 233 Times in 205 Posts	Re: Eczema i get exactly the same thing too, itchy eyelids which i just cant stop scratching till me eyes go red and i cant see properly... i get it about 5 times a year at least..... i also get really dry skin on my knuckles and elbows at the same time as having the itchy eyes....

18-12-2006, 11:12	#14
cheezemonkhai Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,556 Members Car: Thanks: 111 Thanked 512 Times in 475 Posts	Re: Eczema Maybe you are alergic to the furby Pixi. __________________ Cars make CO2 and trees absorb CO2. By driving your car you're feeding a tree and helping the environment.

18-12-2006, 12:55	#15
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Eczema My eyelids are fine now (with the steroid) and were never weepy just swollen. It's my legs and my arms that are driving me mad, I put Eumovate aswell as the Aqueous cream on last night but it wasn't great. I ended up dead to the world thanks to Phenergan until 11.00 am so I couldn't scratch in my sleep I'm not convinced it's Eczema personally, my skin is not dry or flaky __________________

18-12-2006, 14:25	#17
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,255 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Eczema I repeat - I see cases of glaucoma/cataract in eczema sufferers who have over-done steroid use of any sort, even on the eyelids. Less than a week of therapy is probably safe, but fully 5% of the population are what are known as "steroid responders" and will show a pressure rise in the eyes after about 2-3 weeks. I can tell you some real-life horror stories that I've seen...... __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

18-12-2006, 17:04	#18
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,550 Members Car: Thanks: 50 Thanked 142 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Eczema I am not a doctor (as you'll know). I wouldn't take anything (pills) or use any chemicals for a while at all, if this is a new thing? (Cos you ain't got a clue what's causing what.) Perhaps go to back to basics - plain water in the bath with just a flannel and drink lots of plain water? You say you have have bloating as well, and that to me means something you're eating, unles of course it's atmospherical chemicals (e.g. air fresheners). Probs no help at all, but being a sensitive soul (and skin) also, I always reckon that taking things away is better than adding things to, if you see what I mean. Best Mo Edit - That's just me - sorry, forgot to say that. __________________ Last edited by heresmo; 18-12-2006 at 17:12.

18-12-2006, 23:48	#20
Mr Grumpy I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: On bail... Posts: 4,675 Members Car: Office chair..... Thanks: 8 Thanked 159 Times in 95 Posts	Re: Eczema Are you Pregnant? At the time of life when your hormones go beserk? As I recall you are a short person that lives on an Island... Visit the nearest Hostipal asap, and get a Visa and some pills, and immediately buy a caravan and a Volvo. When I next see you in Cleethorpes on a wet bank holiday weekend, you will be cured HTH, Love Grumpy __________________ S50 VRS Number Plate for sale..ffs someone must want it.... Last edited by Mr Grumpy; 18-12-2006 at 23:49. Reason: Not as sober as I thought.

18-12-2006, 23:58	#21
pixi Naughty Pix! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Writing in these boxes is soooo last year! Posts: 6,307 Members Car: 06 Fabia vrs Thanks: 106 Thanked 93 Times in 51 Posts	Re: Eczema Actually I did see a rather nice Volvo in yesterdays paper that I was reading earlier. <------ I would've inserted the rubchin smiley here, but I don't seem to be able to access the pop up smiley page. My life is over __________________

19-12-2006, 00:26	#22
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,550 Members Car: Thanks: 50 Thanked 142 Times in 122 Posts	Re: Eczema Just get Mr G to give you the cartesian coordinates and teleport yourself to Cleethorpes Pixi? They have lovely sand for making sandcastles there As you also have nice sand, you'll already have a bucket and spade packed up and ready On topic, there are a couple of so-called "gentle" shampoos which, if I use in the shower, make me think I've got headlice, fleas and scurvy Luckily, I've learned to recognise this and empty them down the loo pronto. Ditto certain washing powders. Strangely, the liquid form of acceptable washing powders is still a no-no for me. Best Mo __________________

19-12-2006, 13:00	#23
Quetz VRS DisturbedMonkey Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: In a mental home, whacked out on happy pills talking backwards with Einstein :D Posts: 262 Members Car: Skoda Fabia 1.4TDi Estate Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Eczema Betamethasone Velrate (Betnovate) Ask if that will be ok to use, not sure if it will be to strong for your case. I use it because my skin is so dry it makes the Saharra Destert a huge lake This time of year i get major cracks and damn do the hurt but I use that and moistriser Vasaline Intensive Care which replaces natural lipids which has help tremendously over the last 2 years. But ask anyway, it is soothing and a topical steroid cream which is very fast acting Q __________________ Insanity is not an illness.... it's a way of life !!

19-12-2006, 16:31	#25
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,255 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Eczema I just found a study on a home-made cream mixture of olive oil, honey and beeswax that I've used for eczema patients in the past with success. I seem to remember that it made the skin heal well. POC to make just heat up beeswax, olive oil and honey in a double-boiler and stir. Makes regular skin silky smooth too. Pixi, I'll email you a copy of the scientific study that proves how good it works. Cheers Bas __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

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