Flu Jabs............" Had Yours Yet...?? "

ag.morley · 05-10-2008, 11:06

...........had mine yesterday and my poor arm still hurts........

runboy · 05-10-2008, 14:43

No, I'm one of those that should have it and the docs always push me too but for some reason I never do. I've had other jabs for stuff so it isn't the thought of the needle.

What is the worst that could happen if I do have it?

Lady Elanore · 05-10-2008, 14:45

What are the criteria for having a Flu Jab. I assume people with lung problems etc, but is there an age point were they are recommend the jab? As you can tell I haven’t been following this much this year.

Octygone · 05-10-2008, 15:17

I am supposed to have them ....but the last time I had one I got the flu

so I am a bit suspicious of them now

Basil · 05-10-2008, 15:23

Funnily enough, I didn't used to have them - even when exposed daily to people with flu etc.
One bad episode of flu 3 years ago, then I started to get the jab yearly. It works.
It can't protect against every strain just yet, but even if you do get flu, your body responds well enough to make it a minor episode, not a at-death's-door-knocking-loudly effort....
Other thing is it breaks the chain of transmission - you help others by getting the jab...

My 2p worth

Bas

Taxi 219 · 05-10-2008, 15:35

Never had Flu jab as i have never had the flu or colds in the last 4 years.

Basil · 05-10-2008, 15:55

Stricly speaking only OAP, people who smoke, have heart/lung disease, children with a chronic illness, etc really NEED them, but if a simple jab can prevent lost work time, feeling rotten and giving it to all your kids, friends, SWMBO etc think it's worth it....

Bas

runboy · 05-10-2008, 16:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady Elanore

What are the criteria for having a Flu Jab. I assume people with lung problems etc, but is there an age point were they are recommend the jab? As you can tell I haven’t been following this much this year.

Our local GP says if you have asthma and only the blue (ventolin) inhaler then they don't push you to have the jab, but if your asthma is more severe (green/brown inhaler etc) they pester you to have the jab.

Lady Elanore · 05-10-2008, 18:15

I get 2 or 3 colds (or some sort of thing that makes me feel grotty) a year, but I think I have only had ‘Real’ flu twice in my life. I couldn’t believe how poorly I felt though.

bobjim · 06-10-2008, 08:27

work are offering them to us for free.... i'm still undecided whether to have one!

woodenspatulas · 06-10-2008, 17:20

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Originally Posted by runboy

Our local GP says if you have asthma and only the blue (ventolin) inhaler then they don't push you to have the jab, but if your asthma is more severe (green/brown inhaler etc) they pester you to have the jab.

yup thats how ours works too. me being customer facing means im at high risk from it so need to get it every year. ive been on the highest dose of the preventative inhaler since i was a kid. which reminds me to go book mine now

McScooby · 06-10-2008, 18:08

Had mine last Monday, felt a bit bunged up on the Tuesday but was fine come Wednesday. Last year didn't have it & got the flu was off work for over a week, never again.

MudPuppy · 06-10-2008, 22:17

I was offered it from work but I would've had to have gone down to Gloucs for it so opted not to ...

I had flu a couple of Christmases ago, I've never felt so ill. It felled me for about 3 weeks.

devonutopia · 06-10-2008, 22:22

Turned down flu jab at uni. I'm not good with needles anyway. However, it was a different story with the meningitis jab! I definitely had that!

gadgetman · 06-10-2008, 22:22

Not covered to get one, but can pay £18.

Dont see the point myself UNLESS medically it could be fatal.

Kandy · 06-10-2008, 22:58

Last time I worked in an office, 'management' almost insisted everyone had a jab - I don't agree with such (pointless for healthy people) things so I didn't. Within weeks just about everyone (except me) was down with flu - how do you explain that?

devonutopia · 06-10-2008, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kandy

how do you explain that?

Isn't the jab basically the flu in a supposedly weakened form?

ag.morley · 07-10-2008, 09:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

Isn't the jab basically the flu in a supposedly weakened form?

I think so, they give you a small dose of flu and the body sorts it out. It's the strain of flu they think might be around so you still might cath flu if it's not that strain.................

matt@theforce · 07-10-2008, 10:41

I usually get mine late in October. I've had one every year for as long as I can remember. I'm an asthmatic and rely on my drugs quite alot.

pixi · 07-10-2008, 11:05

The theory of you being injected with a weak form of the virus was completely discounted by the PH nurses that come over to our place to stab everyone.

I'm always way too busy at that actual time, on that actual day to have one. Thank the Lord for warning emails

ag.morley · 07-10-2008, 11:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixi

The theory of you being injected with a weak form of the virus was completely discounted by the PH nurses that come over to our place to stab everyone.

I'm always way too busy at that actual time, on that actual day to have one.

Can you tell us what they inject into us please then Pixi??

pixi · 07-10-2008, 11:38

Public health isn't my area so I would be researching as anyone else would be. I could ask when they come over, but I would risk getting stabbed if I actually acknowledged their existance on the ward. I will ask a colleague to ask them! Or maybe Bas will answer this before hand.

They may have actually been lying to us to make us have it, who knows?

Basil · 07-10-2008, 14:37

Better get it - very nasty 'flu has already appeared in the UAE and recently in Bahrain. With these days of air travel it's only a matter of time b4 it hits the UK....

Bas

Kandy · 08-10-2008, 00:30

Well I just did a bit of Googling and there are 2 types of vaccine, inactivated & merely weakened flu virus.

Supposedly cannot cause flu, but the listed side affects sound just like flu LOL, and transmission of 'flu' to third parties from vaccinated individuals has been proven!

Sometimes (lots) of people have quite a severe allergic reaction - luckily there is an established compensation program.

As the vaccines are prepared in advance, they guess what strains will be prevalent, so you might not even be covered if an outbreak occurs.

All things considered, it seems rather daft having it, unless you have special reasons.

Basil · 08-10-2008, 09:02

Suggest you google for "herd immunity", lol.
Also look up IgM and it's function.

Then compare the statistical likelihood of dying from a severe reaction to the vaccine to that of being run over while crossing the high street.

I wouldn't label the decision to have one or not as "daft". Just personal choice....

Bas

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Kandy Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 582 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 21 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Flu Jabs............" Had Yours Yet...?? " Well I just did a bit of Googling and there are 2 types of vaccine, inactivated & merely weakened flu virus. Supposedly cannot cause flu, but the listed side affects sound just like flu LOL, and transmission of 'flu' to third parties from vaccinated individuals has been proven! Sometimes (lots) of people have quite a severe allergic reaction - luckily there is an established compensation program. As the vaccines are prepared in advance, they guess what strains will be prevalent, so you might not even be covered if an outbreak occurs. All things considered, it seems rather daft having it, unless you have special reasons.

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Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,255 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Flu Jabs............" Had Yours Yet...?? " Suggest you google for "herd immunity", lol. Also look up IgM and it's function. Then compare the statistical likelihood of dying from a severe reaction to the vaccine to that of being run over while crossing the high street. I wouldn't label the decision to have one or not as "daft". Just personal choice.... Bas __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod