Nasty Neighbours?

Podwin · 12-10-2005, 21:21

Do I really live next door to nasty neighbours?

Their house isn’t next to mine, the front of their house faces 9o’clock if mine faces 12, so their back garden still backs onto the side of mine.

I have tried to be friendly before but have given up. What has happen this evening has left thinking everyone out past your front door is just nasty.

Basically, I am trying to get my driveway widened to fit two cars on it. Phoned the council to extend the service slip and drop the kerb. These neighbours have gone mad. Shouting at me this evening, interrupting everytime I tried to speak, and generally would not listen to reason.

The council came along and painted some white lines, it must be where they are going to dig.

They are saying it is their property!, mentioning solicitors, etc. I tried to say, it is highways, that is what the council told me, and why I am letting them do it.

They kept saying they cut that grass and pressure wash the kerb, as if that made it theirs!

Anyway, going to get some backup from the council tomorrow, but this evening, the phone has been ringing every 15 minutes, with no one there. I’m thinking is it them? Would they be that childish?

Jesus, the woman next door was going berserk at me, pointing, shouting, talking to me like I’m stupid.

I am not surprised there are so many neighbourhood disputes. Though I am pleased I didn’t lose it and never raised my voice back.

Is anyone on here know of council matters? Or had these kind of problems before

Martin

Johnnyc · 12-10-2005, 21:52

'I can assure you that i've checked my property boundaries etc and obtained full permission from the council'. 'We seem to disagree on this so here are the contact details of the council representative dealing with this'. 'I'm sure he/she can put your mind at rest'. Then walk away!

My neighbours are similar. 'You can't park in front of my house' 'Yes I can. It's not ideal for you but your visitors have chosen to park in front of my house leaving me no option' or 'You can't park across my drive' 'What drive, it's only 4 ft wide'.

vindaloo · 13-10-2005, 00:15

I am not surprised at all. Some people just seem to wind themselves and others up into a tailspin without regard.

If the phoning goes on, complain to BT and get them to trace the calls.

I wouldn't be surprised if the council refused to drop the kerb if they complain about it.

All you can do is be calm and reasonable. If they won't let you drop the kerb, plonk a baulk of timber alongside the kerb. Make sure it's properly stamped property of... etc. If they walk off with it, phone plod...

J.

JRHartley · 13-10-2005, 08:05

Get some pikeys to tarmac over their back lawn when they are out.....

..We had a neighbour like this once...Their driveway was a double width one but this still left room across the front for a car to park without blocking the drive. They only had one car and hardly any visitors anyway. My sister-in-law was staying with us for a few days and she parked (quite legally) in the space in front of their house - not blocking the drive and was only parking there for 5 mins until I moved my car onto our driveway but the woman came out and gave her a right tongue lashing for parking in front of her house because 'her visitors would have to park on the drive.....!!'...Rather than upset my neighbours the SIL bit her lip, avioded punching the old bat and moved her car.

No visitors showed up and the next day the neighbours caravan miraculously appeared in front of their house and stayed there for the next 3 months...until some bloke tried to nick it...

We never got on with the old bat after that and she eventually moved out last year..

..people just get so anally retentive about the smallest thing and disputes arrise out of nothing...If she had been civil and simply talked to us to let us know the caravan was coming it wouldn't have cost me £100 notes to get some bloke to.......anyway my advice is keep calm and civil and don't be confrontational even if there is no reasoning with some people...

ag.morley · 13-10-2005, 09:06

Providing you are not blocking anyones driveway/entrance you can park anywere you want, you also have no right to park outside your own property......Your Boundry stops at your front gate/fence.

Podwin · 13-10-2005, 10:19

Got a result this morning!

Phoned the chap at the highways department who I have been talking to about having this work done. He is going round to talk to them, or leave a card if they are out.

He stated, it is not their property, it's his, and he could dig a squiggly line all along it, it is a service strip. Their property begins at there fence.

Sense at last. What really makes me mad though, when you try to speak, calmly to someone, and each time you open your mouth they butt in and never let you finish a single sentence.

To me, that's a sign of stupidity, when someone cannot have a contructive debate!

flatfourburble · 13-10-2005, 10:37

SWSBO's brother had so much trouble with his neighbour over what was his land that he gave up and has now sold up the house. Spent a fortune doing the house up aswell!

He gets his car damaged and his property damaged, though it can never be proved that it's his neighbour!

atleast you got a good result though

boyced · 13-10-2005, 11:10

are you allowed to sell cars from your house?, guy next door is running a car sales business from his house. He's got 2 or 3 cars on his drive, an X5 outside mine and a Jap 4x4 (which doesn't have valid tax) and a flatbed lorry a bit up the road,

heresmo · 13-10-2005, 11:23

My sister had similar problems with her neighbours. Caused them much stress. They decided it was better just to move. I mention this only because whatever the outcome, they will still be your neighbours, and seemingly they are not very nice people to live next door to.

Do we have any estate agents on here? If I'm not mistaken, neighbour arguments have to be declared on the seller's information. I can't imagine your relations with them will be better once the work is done, and just wonder whether you need to consider all aspects before handing over a lot of dosh to the council to have the work done. IOW check it all out before you pays your money, and whether the added value is a good investment or will simply be taken for granted and not increase your house value.

If you get my drift. Hopefully someone who knows about these things will reply also.

Best
Mo

JRHartley · 13-10-2005, 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyced

are you allowed to sell cars from your house?, guy next door is running a car sales business from his house. He's got 2 or 3 cars on his drive, an X5 outside mine and a Jap 4x4 (which doesn't have valid tax) and a flatbed lorry a bit up the road,

I certainly think the inland revenue, trading standards and your local council would be very interested, along with the DVLA for the tax and MOT status of the cars.

IIRC you are not allowed to park large commercial vehicles over a certain axle weight outside your house (not too sure on this one though might only be a figment of my imagination)

simon · 13-10-2005, 11:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRHartley

IIRC you are not allowed to park large commercial vehicles over a certain axle weight outside your house (not too sure on this one though might only be a figment of my imagination)

A guy who used to live down the road from me drove a bloody great articulated BOC lorry.

Used to park it on the street trailer and all!

flatfourburble · 13-10-2005, 11:36

Mo,

I do believe you might be right on that one. It maybe possible for the new owner to take the old owners to court if they dont disclose a potential problem. But I've been lead to believe that there has to be evidence to back up this claim like police reports or other official complaints. Could be wrong though.

Podwin · 13-10-2005, 12:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyced

are you allowed to sell cars from your house?, guy next door is running a car sales business from his house. He's got 2 or 3 cars on his drive, an X5 outside mine and a Jap 4x4 (which doesn't have valid tax) and a flatbed lorry a bit up the road,

I'm sure it is stated in most mortgages that the premises are not used for business purposes, also most of the time as covenants in the deeds, but it all differs from property to property

cmcm789 · 13-10-2005, 12:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Podwin

Got a result this morning!

Phoned the chap at the highways department who I have been talking to about having this work done. He is going round to talk to them, or leave a card if they are out.

He stated, it is not their property, it's his, and he could dig a squiggly line all along it, it is a service strip. Their property begins at there fence.

Sense at last. What really makes me mad though, when you try to speak, calmly to someone, and each time you open your mouth they butt in and never let you finish a single sentence.

To me, that's a sign of stupidity, when someone cannot have a contructive debate!

I work for a goverment dept. I was asked once while working on a road outside a row of houses if we could drop some kerbs for a house owner. We were raising the footway and carriageway anyway, which required the kerbs to be relaid. I had no problem doing it, but he had to prove to me that he had planning permission for turning his garden/ yard into a drive. Once we had recieved this information we went ahead and dropped the footway and kerbs.

I think what you are saying is that you are having your entrance widened, and that you already have a drive way. Is this a DIY drive, do you have planning permission for it, or was it constructed with the house.

You could find that your neighbours can stop the work if you haven't got the required planning permission from the council!

Podwin · 13-10-2005, 12:24

When the house was built, it was built with a single width driveway.

There is garden to the left and right of this driveway.

I would like to increase the width of the driveway to the right, and hence increase the width of the service slip to access the wider driveway.

There are no pavements, my house is at the top end of a close.

There is grass with some bushes infront of the proposed driveway, which is going to become part of the extended service slip.

Do I need planning for any of this?

I may take a picture when I get home to show what I mean.

Martin

Stimps · 13-10-2005, 12:29

Quote:

From: http://www.stockton.gov.uk/resources...dstanding_faq/

There are normally no restrictions on the area of land within the curtilage of a dwelling house or bungalow (not flats) which can be covered with hard surfaces.

Planning permission is only required if the hard surface is to be used other than for domestic purposes, for example permission would be required for parking a commercial vehicle or for storing goods in connection with a business. Planning permission may also be necessary if there is a condition attached to the original planning permission for your home requiring the council's consent for any development.

Approval must be obtained from the highways section of the council if a new driveway would cross a pavement or verge. Planning permission will also be necessary to make a new or wider access onto an A,B or C classified road. The planning department of the council will advise you if your road is classified.

It is council policy that any new access onto most A or B classified roads must make provision for on-site turning so that vehicles can leave the site in a forward direction in the interests of highway safety.

If the proposed development is not wholly within land in your ownership {this includes foundations} planning permission will automatically be required.

Might be worth a call to the planning department just to make sure you're ok...

Also - are there any clauses in your deeds about changing the driveway? When I lived with ex-SWMBO, no one on the estate was allowed to build a wall outside their property until it was 25 years old!

Edit: Do you actually need the kerb dropped? If the drive is a bit longer than a car, you could still get 2 cars parked side by side with room for both to get out? Just a thought...

HotVRs · 13-10-2005, 12:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Podwin

Do I really live next door to nasty neighbours?

Their house isn’t next to mine, the front of their house faces 9o’clock if mine faces 12, so their back garden still backs onto the side of mine.

I have tried to be friendly before but have given up. What has happen this evening has left thinking everyone out past your front door is just nasty.

Basically, I am trying to get my driveway widened to fit two cars on it. Phoned the council to extend the service slip and drop the kerb. These neighbours have gone mad. Shouting at me this evening, interrupting everytime I tried to speak, and generally would not listen to reason.

The council came along and painted some white lines, it must be where they are going to dig.

They are saying it is their property!, mentioning solicitors, etc. I tried to say, it is highways, that is what the council told me, and why I am letting them do it.

They kept saying they cut that grass and pressure wash the kerb, as if that made it theirs!

Anyway, going to get some backup from the council tomorrow, but this evening, the phone has been ringing every 15 minutes, with no one there. I’m thinking is it them? Would they be that childish?

Jesus, the woman next door was going berserk at me, pointing, shouting, talking to me like I’m stupid.

I am not surprised there are so many neighbourhood disputes. Though I am pleased I didn’t lose it and never raised my voice back.

Is anyone on here know of council matters? Or had these kind of problems before

Martin

Some people are just plain mad/stupid/maladjusted/damaged (tick as appropraite). It's like an alien encounter moment when stuff like this happens and very disconcerting, but remember it's not you - it's the freaks.

neilwilliams · 13-10-2005, 13:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by boyced

are you allowed to sell cars from your house?, guy next door is running a car sales business from his house. He's got 2 or 3 cars on his drive, an X5 outside mine and a Jap 4x4 (which doesn't have valid tax) and a flatbed lorry a bit up the road,

To use your home as business premises requires some sort of planning permission as it's a change of use.

Most house insurance policies would not cover you. I do teach from home and it is in the not-so-small-print that I may work from home as long as I don't have visitors.

When I lived with my parents there wasa guy down a side road that sold cars (still does

) but at least he doesn't park them near my parents any more.
When the neighbours noticed one had out of date tax they reported it to the police (more out of irritation than anything elese) but nothing seemed to get done about it.

Good luck with it.

Podwin · 13-10-2005, 13:06

I have found some pictures on my work PC I took a year ago, showing the progress of my drive being paved. So it doesn't look like that now.

I have drawn in red where the council have sprayed white paint.

The bushes in front of the wheelies bins are going to go, and that srtip is to be tarmac'd by the council. It is then up to me to widen the driveway where the wheelie bins are in the picture.

You can just see the neigbours fence in the right of the picture. They are stating the line should be straight, as it is stealing their land.

Their boundary is their nice concrete fence, even though they cut that grass, it is owned and maintained by the Highways Department of the council.

The chap at the council has told me that is how it should be, I wouldn't mind the line being straight. All I asked was to have access to a wider drive.

What gets me, I know it is not my property, they don't, but acuse me of all sorts, it ain't very nice.

The front of their house faces West were as mine faces North, so they ain't going to see it. That fence of theirs in the picture is the left hand corner of their back garden!

God, I need to calm down!

johnjohnhealy · 13-10-2005, 13:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by heresmo

My sister had similar problems with her neighbours. Caused them much stress. They decided it was better just to move. I mention this only because whatever the outcome, they will still be your neighbours, and seemingly they are not very nice people to live next door to.

Do we have any estate agents on here? If I'm not mistaken, neighbour arguments have to be declared on the seller's information. I can't imagine your relations with them will be better once the work is done, and just wonder whether you need to consider all aspects before handing over a lot of dosh to the council to have the work done. IOW check it all out before you pays your money, and whether the added value is a good investment or will simply be taken for granted and not increase your house value.

If you get my drift. Hopefully someone who knows about these things will reply also.

Best
Mo

It is an offence not to declare noisy/generally unsavoury neighbours and you can be prosecuted.

It's kind of good and bad really, If you were buying a house you'd want to know if the neighbours were ****s, but on the other hand if your selling a house with ****s next door you probably wont sell it!!

EddyH · 13-10-2005, 13:12

From my experience of this the only permission you need is from the local highways dept to be able to drive across the pavement and to have the kerb lowered.

**robmawer** · 13-10-2005, 13:12

I can see with it cutting across like that why they'd think it was encroaching on their land. Of course, if they took the effort to look at their land boundaries it would clear this one up.
Can't see how it'll be an obstacle to them, nor that it would affect their property value - hence I don't think they have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, if I was in their shoes, I'd be asking you to get them to pave all the way along there, sod cutting someone else's muddy grass banks for a laugh...

Rob.

JRHartley · 13-10-2005, 13:19

Seeing as its now officially the councils land and you'll have to shift your wheely bins to make use of the widened driveway, why not keep the bins on the grass ?

Podwin · 13-10-2005, 13:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRHartley

Seeing as its now officially the councils land and you'll have to shift your wheely bins to make use of the widened driveway, why not keep the bins on the grass ?

What would really wind them up

beeftech · 13-10-2005, 23:56

Podwin, You will need planning permission to do do anything to your driveway!

We've just had an entrance to our drive widened, there were 2 stipulations: A) needed planning permission £110 and the Council had to do it 'cos of the public Liability insurance issues!!

All in it cost us about £600!!!!

12-10-2005, 21:21	#1
Podwin Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 262 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Nasty Neighbours? Do I really live next door to nasty neighbours? Their house isn’t next to mine, the front of their house faces 9o’clock if mine faces 12, so their back garden still backs onto the side of mine. I have tried to be friendly before but have given up. What has happen this evening has left thinking everyone out past your front door is just nasty. Basically, I am trying to get my driveway widened to fit two cars on it. Phoned the council to extend the service slip and drop the kerb. These neighbours have gone mad. Shouting at me this evening, interrupting everytime I tried to speak, and generally would not listen to reason. The council came along and painted some white lines, it must be where they are going to dig. They are saying it is their property!, mentioning solicitors, etc. I tried to say, it is highways, that is what the council told me, and why I am letting them do it. They kept saying they cut that grass and pressure wash the kerb, as if that made it theirs! Anyway, going to get some backup from the council tomorrow, but this evening, the phone has been ringing every 15 minutes, with no one there. I’m thinking is it them? Would they be that childish? Jesus, the woman next door was going berserk at me, pointing, shouting, talking to me like I’m stupid. I am not surprised there are so many neighbourhood disputes. Though I am pleased I didn’t lose it and never raised my voice back. Is anyone on here know of council matters? Or had these kind of problems before Martin

12-10-2005, 21:52	#2
Johnnyc Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,193 Members Car: MkV Golf 1.9 TDI Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	'I can assure you that i've checked my property boundaries etc and obtained full permission from the council'. 'We seem to disagree on this so here are the contact details of the council representative dealing with this'. 'I'm sure he/she can put your mind at rest'. Then walk away! My neighbours are similar. 'You can't park in front of my house' 'Yes I can. It's not ideal for you but your visitors have chosen to park in front of my house leaving me no option' or 'You can't park across my drive' 'What drive, it's only 4 ft wide'. __________________ Johnny "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git."

13-10-2005, 00:15	#3
vindaloo Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: South Bucks Posts: 1,194 Members Car: Fabia vRS and Impreza P1 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	I am not surprised at all. Some people just seem to wind themselves and others up into a tailspin without regard. If the phoning goes on, complain to BT and get them to trace the calls. I wouldn't be surprised if the council refused to drop the kerb if they complain about it. All you can do is be calm and reasonable. If they won't let you drop the kerb, plonk a baulk of timber alongside the kerb. Make sure it's properly stamped property of... etc. If they walk off with it, phone plod... J. __________________ Slowly turning the planet sooty.

13-10-2005, 08:05	#4
JRHartley Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North west Posts: 2,010 Members Car: Octavia 1.9 TDi Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Get some pikeys to tarmac over their back lawn when they are out..... ..We had a neighbour like this once...Their driveway was a double width one but this still left room across the front for a car to park without blocking the drive. They only had one car and hardly any visitors anyway. My sister-in-law was staying with us for a few days and she parked (quite legally) in the space in front of their house - not blocking the drive and was only parking there for 5 mins until I moved my car onto our driveway but the woman came out and gave her a right tongue lashing for parking in front of her house because 'her visitors would have to park on the drive.....!!'...Rather than upset my neighbours the SIL bit her lip, avioded punching the old bat and moved her car. No visitors showed up and the next day the neighbours caravan miraculously appeared in front of their house and stayed there for the next 3 months...until some bloke tried to nick it... We never got on with the old bat after that and she eventually moved out last year.. ..people just get so anally retentive about the smallest thing and disputes arrise out of nothing...If she had been civil and simply talked to us to let us know the caravan was coming it wouldn't have cost me £100 notes to get some bloke to.......anyway my advice is keep calm and civil and don't be confrontational even if there is no reasoning with some people... __________________ I'm a celebrity...... Get me out of here !!!

13-10-2005, 09:06	#5
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13-10-2005, 10:19	#6
Podwin Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 262 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Got a result this morning! Phoned the chap at the highways department who I have been talking to about having this work done. He is going round to talk to them, or leave a card if they are out. He stated, it is not their property, it's his, and he could dig a squiggly line all along it, it is a service strip. Their property begins at there fence. Sense at last. What really makes me mad though, when you try to speak, calmly to someone, and each time you open your mouth they butt in and never let you finish a single sentence. To me, that's a sign of stupidity, when someone cannot have a contructive debate!

13-10-2005, 10:37	#7
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	SWSBO's brother had so much trouble with his neighbour over what was his land that he gave up and has now sold up the house. Spent a fortune doing the house up aswell! He gets his car damaged and his property damaged, though it can never be proved that it's his neighbour! atleast you got a good result though __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

13-10-2005, 11:10	#8
boyced fully boyced. Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,919 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	are you allowed to sell cars from your house?, guy next door is running a car sales business from his house. He's got 2 or 3 cars on his drive, an X5 outside mine and a Jap 4x4 (which doesn't have valid tax) and a flatbed lorry a bit up the road, __________________

13-10-2005, 11:23	#9
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,554 Members Car: Thanks: 50 Thanked 143 Times in 123 Posts	My sister had similar problems with her neighbours. Caused them much stress. They decided it was better just to move. I mention this only because whatever the outcome, they will still be your neighbours, and seemingly they are not very nice people to live next door to. Do we have any estate agents on here? If I'm not mistaken, neighbour arguments have to be declared on the seller's information. I can't imagine your relations with them will be better once the work is done, and just wonder whether you need to consider all aspects before handing over a lot of dosh to the council to have the work done. IOW check it all out before you pays your money, and whether the added value is a good investment or will simply be taken for granted and not increase your house value. If you get my drift. Hopefully someone who knows about these things will reply also. Best Mo

13-10-2005, 11:36	#12
flatfourburble "Bones" Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Heathrow/Crewe Posts: 5,449 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mo, I do believe you might be right on that one. It maybe possible for the new owner to take the old owners to court if they dont disclose a potential problem. But I've been lead to believe that there has to be evidence to back up this claim like police reports or other official complaints. Could be wrong though. __________________ Oh to have the internet back..................oh have I missed it

13-10-2005, 12:24	#15
Podwin Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 262 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	When the house was built, it was built with a single width driveway. There is garden to the left and right of this driveway. I would like to increase the width of the driveway to the right, and hence increase the width of the service slip to access the wider driveway. There are no pavements, my house is at the top end of a close. There is grass with some bushes infront of the proposed driveway, which is going to become part of the extended service slip. Do I need planning for any of this? I may take a picture when I get home to show what I mean. Martin

13-10-2005, 13:06	#19
Podwin Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 262 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Picture I have found some pictures on my work PC I took a year ago, showing the progress of my drive being paved. So it doesn't look like that now. I have drawn in red where the council have sprayed white paint. The bushes in front of the wheelies bins are going to go, and that srtip is to be tarmac'd by the council. It is then up to me to widen the driveway where the wheelie bins are in the picture. You can just see the neigbours fence in the right of the picture. They are stating the line should be straight, as it is stealing their land. Their boundary is their nice concrete fence, even though they cut that grass, it is owned and maintained by the Highways Department of the council. The chap at the council has told me that is how it should be, I wouldn't mind the line being straight. All I asked was to have access to a wider drive. What gets me, I know it is not my property, they don't, but acuse me of all sorts, it ain't very nice. The front of their house faces West were as mine faces North, so they ain't going to see it. That fence of theirs in the picture is the left hand corner of their back garden! God, I need to calm down! Last edited by Podwin; 21-01-2006 at 19:02.

13-10-2005, 13:12	#21
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	From my experience of this the only permission you need is from the local highways dept to be able to drive across the pavement and to have the kerb lowered. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

13-10-2005, 13:12	#22
robmawer Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Rochdale Posts: 12,476 Members Car: Octavia 1.6 Ambiente Thanks: 2 Thanked 74 Times in 67 Posts	I can see with it cutting across like that why they'd think it was encroaching on their land. Of course, if they took the effort to look at their land boundaries it would clear this one up. Can't see how it'll be an obstacle to them, nor that it would affect their property value - hence I don't think they have a leg to stand on. Anyway, if I was in their shoes, I'd be asking you to get them to pave all the way along there, sod cutting someone else's muddy grass banks for a laugh... Rob. __________________

13-10-2005, 13:19	#23
JRHartley Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North west Posts: 2,010 Members Car: Octavia 1.9 TDi Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Seeing as its now officially the councils land and you'll have to shift your wheely bins to make use of the widened driveway, why not keep the bins on the grass ? __________________ I'm a celebrity...... Get me out of here !!!

13-10-2005, 23:56	#25
beeftech Briskodian Join Date: May 2005 Location: North East Posts: 1,526 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Podwin, You will need planning permission to do do anything to your driveway! We've just had an entrance to our drive widened, there were 2 stipulations: A) needed planning permission £110 and the Council had to do it 'cos of the public Liability insurance issues!! All in it cost us about £600!!!! __________________ '05 Corrida Red Fabia vRS: Revo'd to 185Bhp '90 Nugget Yellow Corrado 1.8T: KO4S and 265bhp

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