Omg Old People Can't Drive

class37 · 16-10-2005, 22:03

Sorry today i got a bit ****off with a old gentleman that did know what he was doing. Traveling along a A road doing less then 50 mph. That is so annoying !!!!!

He looked over 80 and could hardly see over the steering wheel, driving a new Bmw.
Its great that they can afford nice car but I wish they would retake there driving tests !!!

Mort · 16-10-2005, 22:07

Careful. Tried arguing this before. Apparently they're allowed to drive as slow as they like.

Fabia 12v · 16-10-2005, 22:12

God, dont get me started on this.... was coming off M25 today onto M3... M25 was 40 limit... M3 was absolutly clear and national limit applied..... sat behind Rover 75 coming off M25.

Once off the slip road and onto the M3 i was hoping to just sit in slow lane as i was coming off at the next junction... Rover 75 pulls in middle lane.

All of this time its been still doin 40mph.

I was in no rush and was expecting it to perhaps shoot off once it was there.... but no i was gathering speed and gaining in the slow and came up behind him.... ended up having to brake to lose speed so i cud pull over in to middle then fast to overtake... as i passed who was behind the wheel... but little old woman who also could hardly see over the wheel... was amazed... reached 70 and soon she was a dot in rear view... but was still in middle lane.... dont reakon she'd ever been on motorway before

peterc10 · 17-10-2005, 10:54

I'm afraid middle lane hogs are not limited to the old, in fact they tend to stick to the inside lane cos they are too terrified to move out. The worst culprits seem to be the young (teens and twenties) in an oldish (first?) car who seem to have the attitude "I'm doing the limit, I don't want to pull out to overtake lorries, I pay my taxes so I'm entitled to use this lane". Is this something they are taught nowadays when they are learning?? Really irritating - I normally cut back into the driving (i.e. inside) lane ASAP in front of them, but it makes no difference - you can't educate pork.

**robmawer** · 17-10-2005, 11:11

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Originally Posted by peterc10

Is this something they are taught nowadays when they are learning??

No - it's just a single entry in the Highway Code that may or may not appear on the theory test. As they don't go on motorways as part of the learner driver "curriculum", they don't the concept of lane discipline thoroughly hammered home.

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Really irritating - I normally cut back into the driving (i.e. inside) lane ASAP in front of them, but it makes no difference - you can't educate pork.

If you then slow down so they pass you again, and then overtake them again, etc. then it makes quite a fun game seeing how many times you can "circle" them. Livens up many a dull journey.

Rob.

thephm · 17-10-2005, 11:15

Of course there is the opposite to the middle lane hog ... the numpty that insists on being in the left lane all the time.
Had a 2.5l BMW driver behind on the M8 me the other day closing slowly, doing no more than 5 mph more than me (I was doing an indicated 80 so in real terms about 74). She would come out to go past a lorry/car doing about 60 in the inside lane and then pull in between it an the lorry/car which was about a car and a half length infront procede to brake to match the speed of the lane, and then repeat the process.

**mannyo** · 17-10-2005, 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by class37

Sorry today i got a bit ****off with a old gentleman that did know what he was doing. Traveling along a A road doing less then 50 mph. That is so annoying !!!!!

He looked over 80 and could hardly see over the steering wheel, driving a new Bmw.
Its great that they can afford nice car but I wish they would retake there driving tests !!!

I know what you mean, but as in Morts post following yours the speed limit is the max speed you are allowed to drive at. Nothing in the highway code says you must drive at the speed limit, he could get prosecuted for driving with undue hesitancy ie. driving to slow for the conditions, but nothing to stop a driver from driving at 40 in a 60, then continuing at 40 in a 40 for example. Indeed when running low on fuel, I have been known to pootle along to save fuel.

cmcm789 · 17-10-2005, 11:21

You should have to sit a refresher test once every 15 or 20 years. Even with all the changes nowadays, like signs and lane markings etc. I'm not surprised some of the people who passed their test 50+ years ago aren't sure of what to do. I only passed mine 12 years ago, and i'm sure the Highway code has changed considerably since then.

How do we know about all these new signs etc if they don't teach us??

JD

mikejay · 17-10-2005, 12:23

i run in the back of a coffin dodger in a focus the other day!! he just decided to stop in the middle of the road for no reason! good job i was only going slow. thank god for plastic bumpers. got away with out a scrach!

JRHartley · 17-10-2005, 12:53

I look forward to my old age so I can wait until bang on 12pm to queue up in the post office smelling of six week old stale pi55 ,start an arguement with the counter assistant over the failure of the state pension to follow the increase in the cost of living, forcing me to have to wear six jumpers in winter and urinate in my hot water bottle to keep warm, then stop at every other person in the queue to tell them my life story. Then I will meander in my car over the dual carriageway at 25mph on my way to ASDA where I can spend the rest of the dinnertime hour running people over in one of those electric chariots, whilst complaining about the price of bread . I will ask anyone who quite obviously doesn't work there 'If there are cutprice damaged pies in the back?' before proceeding to go to the under ten items till. At this point I will run over any small children in my way and then get the chariot jammed in between the express checkouts whilst unloading the Gross domestic produce of a small country out of the basket on the front of the chariot. I will decline all offers of assistance with my packing and take another 20 mins packing my shopping items individually into plastic bags. Once I managed to cause everyone in the express checkout queue to be late back to work I will drop my guts with a ten week-brewed fart and then wander back to my car which I previously parked sideways across the loading bay..

I will then make my way home down the motorway using any lane I feel like and travel down the carriageway, using the correct direction of travel only if I feel like it...

**tfboy** · 17-10-2005, 12:59

All driving licences issued by the DVLA expire the day of your 70th birthday. I'm not sure what's involved in extending it - whether it's a refresher / new test or just a good medical.

I guess for currently-aged 70-yead-old-plusses, they're still on the old A3 sized licence which doesn't have the expiry date on them

heresmo · 17-10-2005, 13:16

FAO JRHartley: LOL - I'm just intrigued though - i.e. of out of all that little lot, what was it that caused you to edit? No mention of your going back to the chemist counter to double your prescription for Valium. Maybe that is a story for another day...

Generally speaking, I would say that motorway driving can be more dangerous, unless on a Sunday when anyone in their right mind will be paying especial attention.

Town driving dipsticks (and mobile users) are definitely not usually oldies IMO - let's face it, most oldies don't either dare go out (or don't need to) till Sunday.

IOW I'm not sure that pots calling kettles black carries a lot of weight. Why not have an Oldies Forum?

Mo

JRHartley · 17-10-2005, 13:20

Mo, it was edited for spelling mistakes that occured from a combination of fastly approaching old age and dropping my chicken and mushroom pie onto my keyboard....

andy ellis · 17-10-2005, 14:24

If its of any consilation I test older people twice a week for there fitness to drive and then are often refered by the dvla. Remember if you have a concern over someones driving report them to dvla if you know them. Belive me if they drive at slow speed on there assessment drive for no pratical reason I will call it as slow processing down to age and yep its bye bye license.......

heresmo · 17-10-2005, 14:59

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Originally Posted by andy ellis

... are often referred by the dvla....

This is because of accident or reaching age 70? IOW how or why does referral by the DVLA come about?

Ta
Mo

heresmo · 17-10-2005, 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRHartley

Mo, it was edited for spelling mistakes that occurred from a combination of fastly approaching old age and dropping my chicken and mushroom pie onto my keyboard....

It's OK. If you get a letter opener, you can get most of it out (calories count). At least it didn't fall onto your lap

And if it does, go out for a "quick" spin in the car to run the adrelanin off. (Yet another handy tip.)

Mo

johnjohnhealy · 17-10-2005, 15:28

We are constantly dodging oap's down here at the costa geriatrica, its something of a requirement to drive anywhere in this town that you identify the driver of any vehicle so you can prepare for the unexpected!

Normally the favourite trick of the OAP's is to have an automatic car and somehow put it in drive with there foot welded to the floor on the accelerator rather than the brake!

We lost 2 cars to this before we moved (used to live opposite a church hall where they went for their tea dances)

They often end up ploughing peoples gardens and demolishing walls or driving into swimming pools (no really) or occasionaly driving into peoples houses!

On the other hand they can be dangerous as passengers as well - one of our drivers (cabbie) reversed onto a customers driveway so he could get in the car without walking to far, he went round and opened the door for him, got him in the car, shut the door and while walking back round the car the old giffer let the handbrake off! steeply sloped driveway, hello mrs jones, nice walpaper you've got! - yep car rolled across road into living room of house opposite!!

Of course it's never their fault though, cos they fought in the war and everything!

dstev2000 · 17-10-2005, 15:51

Worthing is the home of the OAP driver, drives you nuts after a few years!

They should all be made to retake their tests at 65-70 IMO

lfc958 · 17-10-2005, 15:58

IIRC at 70 , you only need to get a doctors certificate to say you are fit to drive & hey presto , extended licencefor a year ( i think)

dstev2000 · 17-10-2005, 16:01

Thats a bloody joke, how can a GP know if someone is fit to drive a bloody car! the only way to prove that is out on the roads with an instructor/examiner!

***ncarring*** · 17-10-2005, 16:05

Why don't we ask the horse's mouth, rather than the other end?

http://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/Dr...086&chk=VbVI48

dstev2000 · 17-10-2005, 16:13

How many oldies get someone else to fill in the forms because they can't see the tick boxes?
I've nearly been killed on a few occasions due to old drivers. In hindsight I should have reported them to the DVLA/Police as they were obviously unfit to drive a tonne+ of metal on our roads.

***ncarring*** · 17-10-2005, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by dstev2000

How many oldies get someone else to fill in the forms because they can't see the tick boxes?

My niece told me what you wrote, so I felt I had to reply

dstev2000 · 17-10-2005, 16:17

I hope you dont live near me then

Fabia 12v · 17-10-2005, 17:21

Actually a very good point was raised... i have never been taught (SP?) motorway driving as of course we never went on them when learning.... guess iv just picked up how may parents have driven up and down motorways for years.... lucky they do it right!

16-10-2005, 22:03	#1
class37 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cumbria Posts: 248 Members Car: ZX10 R at the moment Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Omg Old People Can't Drive Sorry today i got a bit ****off with a old gentleman that did know what he was doing. Traveling along a A road doing less then 50 mph. That is so annoying !!!!! He looked over 80 and could hardly see over the steering wheel, driving a new Bmw. Its great that they can afford nice car but I wish they would retake there driving tests !!!

16-10-2005, 22:07	#2
Mort Broom Broom! Join Date: May 2005 Location: Derby, England Posts: 1,440 Members Car: Fabia vRS (red '03) Thanks: 9 Thanked 47 Times in 45 Posts	Careful. Tried arguing this before. Apparently they're allowed to drive as slow as they like. __________________ Fabia v/RS, in Red. Green filter & Cupra Intake, TT brakes, Josh's Sumpguard, Jabba ARB, MOMO strut brace, Powdercoated alloys. KW v1's next...

16-10-2005, 22:12	#3
Fabia 12v RICHARD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twickenham - Middlesex Posts: 5,026 Members Car: Skoda Fabia >> VW Golf >> Seat Ibiza >> VW Polo Thanks: 11 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts	God, dont get me started on this.... was coming off M25 today onto M3... M25 was 40 limit... M3 was absolutly clear and national limit applied..... sat behind Rover 75 coming off M25. Once off the slip road and onto the M3 i was hoping to just sit in slow lane as i was coming off at the next junction... Rover 75 pulls in middle lane. All of this time its been still doin 40mph. I was in no rush and was expecting it to perhaps shoot off once it was there.... but no i was gathering speed and gaining in the slow and came up behind him.... ended up having to brake to lose speed so i cud pull over in to middle then fast to overtake... as i passed who was behind the wheel... but little old woman who also could hardly see over the wheel... was amazed... reached 70 and soon she was a dot in rear view... but was still in middle lane.... dont reakon she'd ever been on motorway before __________________ First Car: Skoda Fabia MK1 1.2 12v Comfort Replaced with: Volkswagen Golf MK4 GT 1.9TDI Replaced with: Seat Ibiza MK4 Sport 1.9TDI Replaced with: Volkswagen Polo MK6 Ltd. Edition Sport 1.4 16v

17-10-2005, 11:21	#8
cmcm789 Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 965 Members Car: Octy Elegance 110 TDI (2003) Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	You should have to sit a refresher test once every 15 or 20 years. Even with all the changes nowadays, like signs and lane markings etc. I'm not surprised some of the people who passed their test 50+ years ago aren't sure of what to do. I only passed mine 12 years ago, and i'm sure the Highway code has changed considerably since then. How do we know about all these new signs etc if they don't teach us?? JD __________________ Octy Elegance TDI (110bhp)

17-10-2005, 12:23	#9
mikejay Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: wigan Posts: 1,164 Members Car: fuby vrs black cupra 160 intake,dragon tunning box,pikey mods 1 and 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	i run in the back of a coffin dodger in a focus the other day!! he just decided to stop in the middle of the road for no reason! good job i was only going slow. thank god for plastic bumpers. got away with out a scrach! __________________ 179BHP AND 340 TORQUE!!!

17-10-2005, 10:54	#4
peterc10 Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South East Posts: 474 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm afraid middle lane hogs are not limited to the old, in fact they tend to stick to the inside lane cos they are too terrified to move out. The worst culprits seem to be the young (teens and twenties) in an oldish (first?) car who seem to have the attitude "I'm doing the limit, I don't want to pull out to overtake lorries, I pay my taxes so I'm entitled to use this lane". Is this something they are taught nowadays when they are learning?? Really irritating - I normally cut back into the driving (i.e. inside) lane ASAP in front of them, but it makes no difference - you can't educate pork.

17-10-2005, 11:15	#6
thephm Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Livingston Posts: 211 Members Car: Octavia Elegance 1.9 TDi PD Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Of course there is the opposite to the middle lane hog ... the numpty that insists on being in the left lane all the time. Had a 2.5l BMW driver behind on the M8 me the other day closing slowly, doing no more than 5 mph more than me (I was doing an indicated 80 so in real terms about 74). She would come out to go past a lorry/car doing about 60 in the inside lane and then pull in between it an the lorry/car which was about a car and a half length infront procede to brake to match the speed of the lane, and then repeat the process.

17-10-2005, 12:53	#10
JRHartley Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North west Posts: 2,010 Members Car: Octavia 1.9 TDi Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	I look forward to my old age so I can wait until bang on 12pm to queue up in the post office smelling of six week old stale pi55 ,start an arguement with the counter assistant over the failure of the state pension to follow the increase in the cost of living, forcing me to have to wear six jumpers in winter and urinate in my hot water bottle to keep warm, then stop at every other person in the queue to tell them my life story. Then I will meander in my car over the dual carriageway at 25mph on my way to ASDA where I can spend the rest of the dinnertime hour running people over in one of those electric chariots, whilst complaining about the price of bread . I will ask anyone who quite obviously doesn't work there 'If there are cutprice damaged pies in the back?' before proceeding to go to the under ten items till. At this point I will run over any small children in my way and then get the chariot jammed in between the express checkouts whilst unloading the Gross domestic produce of a small country out of the basket on the front of the chariot. I will decline all offers of assistance with my packing and take another 20 mins packing my shopping items individually into plastic bags. Once I managed to cause everyone in the express checkout queue to be late back to work I will drop my guts with a ten week-brewed fart and then wander back to my car which I previously parked sideways across the loading bay.. I will then make my way home down the motorway using any lane I feel like and travel down the carriageway, using the correct direction of travel only if I feel like it... __________________ I'm a celebrity...... Get me out of here !!! Last edited by JRHartley; 17-10-2005 at 12:55.

17-10-2005, 12:59	#11
tfboy C+ à Paris! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tilehurst, Berkshire Posts: 6,325 Members Car: "Fake" Black Magic vRS Thanks: 21 Thanked 76 Times in 66 Posts	All driving licences issued by the DVLA expire the day of your 70th birthday. I'm not sure what's involved in extending it - whether it's a refresher / new test or just a good medical. I guess for currently-aged 70-yead-old-plusses, they're still on the old A3 sized licence which doesn't have the expiry date on them __________________ Xavier

17-10-2005, 13:16	#12
heresmo Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,554 Members Car: Thanks: 50 Thanked 143 Times in 123 Posts	FAO JRHartley: LOL - I'm just intrigued though - i.e. of out of all that little lot, what was it that caused you to edit? No mention of your going back to the chemist counter to double your prescription for Valium. Maybe that is a story for another day... Generally speaking, I would say that motorway driving can be more dangerous, unless on a Sunday when anyone in their right mind will be paying especial attention. Town driving dipsticks (and mobile users) are definitely not usually oldies IMO - let's face it, most oldies don't either dare go out (or don't need to) till Sunday. IOW I'm not sure that pots calling kettles black carries a lot of weight. Why not have an Oldies Forum? Mo

17-10-2005, 13:20	#13
JRHartley Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North west Posts: 2,010 Members Car: Octavia 1.9 TDi Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Mo, it was edited for spelling mistakes that occured from a combination of fastly approaching old age and dropping my chicken and mushroom pie onto my keyboard.... __________________ I'm a celebrity...... Get me out of here !!!

17-10-2005, 14:24	#14
andy ellis Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Warrington Posts: 1,289 Members Car: Fabia Jabba TDi & Citroen C4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	If its of any consilation I test older people twice a week for there fitness to drive and then are often refered by the dvla. Remember if you have a concern over someones driving report them to dvla if you know them. Belive me if they drive at slow speed on there assessment drive for no pratical reason I will call it as slow processing down to age and yep its bye bye license....... __________________ Fabia TDI PD100 "Q" and driving school car. Citroen C4 Coupe 1.6hDi+EGS with disability adaptations.

17-10-2005, 15:28	#17
johnjohnhealy Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK south east Posts: 2,428 Members Car: Superb 130pd Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	We are constantly dodging oap's down here at the costa geriatrica, its something of a requirement to drive anywhere in this town that you identify the driver of any vehicle so you can prepare for the unexpected! Normally the favourite trick of the OAP's is to have an automatic car and somehow put it in drive with there foot welded to the floor on the accelerator rather than the brake! We lost 2 cars to this before we moved (used to live opposite a church hall where they went for their tea dances) They often end up ploughing peoples gardens and demolishing walls or driving into swimming pools (no really) or occasionaly driving into peoples houses! On the other hand they can be dangerous as passengers as well - one of our drivers (cabbie) reversed onto a customers driveway so he could get in the car without walking to far, he went round and opened the door for him, got him in the car, shut the door and while walking back round the car the old giffer let the handbrake off! steeply sloped driveway, hello mrs jones, nice walpaper you've got! - yep car rolled across road into living room of house opposite!! Of course it's never their fault though, cos they fought in the war and everything!

17-10-2005, 15:51	#18
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,036 Members Car: 2 Octavia II's, an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 48 Thanked 168 Times in 153 Posts	Worthing is the home of the OAP driver, drives you nuts after a few years! They should all be made to retake their tests at 65-70 IMO __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

17-10-2005, 15:58	#19
lfc958 500 Power Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kent Posts: 4,069 Members Car: Fiat 500 Thanks: 14 Thanked 25 Times in 25 Posts	IIRC at 70 , you only need to get a doctors certificate to say you are fit to drive & hey presto , extended licencefor a year ( i think) __________________ Steve Man-Bag ? Girlie Car ? - You Decide ( I have - it's neither )

17-10-2005, 16:01	#20
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,036 Members Car: 2 Octavia II's, an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 48 Thanked 168 Times in 153 Posts	Thats a bloody joke, how can a GP know if someone is fit to drive a bloody car! the only way to prove that is out on the roads with an instructor/examiner! __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

17-10-2005, 16:05	#21
*ncarring* Don't talk, drive! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The B roads of Britain Posts: 12,953 Members Car: 1983 Porsche 928S / 1972 MGB GT Thanks: 16 Thanked 94 Times in 77 Posts	Why don't we ask the horse's mouth, rather than the other end? http://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/Dr...086&chk=VbVI48 __________________ Nick North Wiltshire RoADAR

17-10-2005, 16:13	#22
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,036 Members Car: 2 Octavia II's, an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 48 Thanked 168 Times in 153 Posts	How many oldies get someone else to fill in the forms because they can't see the tick boxes? I've nearly been killed on a few occasions due to old drivers. In hindsight I should have reported them to the DVLA/Police as they were obviously unfit to drive a tonne+ of metal on our roads. __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

17-10-2005, 16:17	#24
dstev2000 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Back in the Green Posts: 4,036 Members Car: 2 Octavia II's, an L&K combi and a vRS hatch. Thanks: 48 Thanked 168 Times in 153 Posts	I hope you dont live near me then __________________ MY08 L&K: Black-Estate-Diesel-Sunset Glass-MFD2-W8 Interior light-Colour coded door strips-LED sidelights and Puddle lights-VAG-COM fettled-Lovely! SWMBO's: MY08 vRS TDI - Standard

17-10-2005, 17:21	#25
Fabia 12v RICHARD Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Twickenham - Middlesex Posts: 5,026 Members Car: Skoda Fabia >> VW Golf >> Seat Ibiza >> VW Polo Thanks: 11 Thanked 26 Times in 23 Posts	Actually a very good point was raised... i have never been taught (SP?) motorway driving as of course we never went on them when learning.... guess iv just picked up how may parents have driven up and down motorways for years.... lucky they do it right! __________________ First Car: Skoda Fabia MK1 1.2 12v Comfort Replaced with: Volkswagen Golf MK4 GT 1.9TDI Replaced with: Seat Ibiza MK4 Sport 1.9TDI Replaced with: Volkswagen Polo MK6 Ltd. Edition Sport 1.4 16v

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