Possible health issue? Serious?

devonutopia · 09-10-2007, 16:03

Now, I'm not one to think "I'm going to die" - I have a very optimistic look on life, but something on Sunday made me wonder....

A little background. It was the annual local pram race that myself and some others have (now) won 7 years on the trot.

I had to stay sober due to driving to Bristol (which didn't help to be honest

).....

So, the race kicks off. Now, I'd drank approx half a litre

of Tesco kick stuff - basically a cheap red bull. This could have helped to what happened. Basically I jogged about half a mile OK, but suddenly a massive pain shot through the left side of my head and behind my left eye. It was so bad I had to slow to a walk (even though not that knackered) and basically shut my eyes and massage my temples/head to alleviiate it a bit. It hurt so much and came on so fast - I did wonder whether it was some form of anneurism, etc - No loss of muscle use, paralysis - just excrutiating pain. This subsided eventually, and I was able to continue to win the race.

To help with a better prognosis once in Bristol, I had very sudden cold symptoms, and now I'm nursing a rather snotty cold / cough. No return of headache though. Oh, and I had also been drinking the night before the race so had a slight hangover as well.

Any thoughts. I'm sure I'm perfectly healthy, but the drugs within the "kick" drink and a combo of hangover, onsetting cold bug might have done something.

Basil · 09-10-2007, 16:09

Sounds like a migraine attack - an aneurysm would cause a fixed dilated pupil on one side. Pain would have increased until you lost consciousness and worse....
Sinus block is another possibility..
Having a cold coming on would have made this more likely.
Nowt to worry about mate....

devonutopia · 09-10-2007, 16:13

Never had a migraine before. The only time I've had similar headaches is when hungover, or having done too much with my eyes - such as watching TV for 8 hours [harks back to uni]

I'm not too worried, but having hever had a headache come on so fast, it did make me think. I'm off to the post office in a second

might drop into a chemist as well for something to alleviate the snots.

mattbeef · 09-10-2007, 16:31

Might be an agitated nerve.
I used to suffer from what you described but with no cause and the doc said it was an agitated nerve.

Thanks fully dont seam to have it anymore as i used to look a right tit when id be walking down the road then the next minute id be holding my hand over my eye

Goochie · 09-10-2007, 16:36

I think you're going to die. Possibly before you finish rea....................

**VRStu** · 09-10-2007, 16:40

You do drink a lot of that 5hit though Jason. That won't do you any good.

jec · 09-10-2007, 16:42

I'd guess migraine too, but if you are worried, go see the doc

cheezemonkhai · 09-10-2007, 16:43

That red bull etc stuff is nasty sh*t.

3 cans on the way to southern Germany and I had serious Jitters and felt quick sick when i finally got out of the car.

Goochie · 09-10-2007, 16:52

I believe Red Bull type energy drinks ar ebanned in some countried becuase of the potential health risks associated with drinking too much

Mouse · 09-10-2007, 17:21

Yep. Hope your OK M8.
My brother reckons only ch&vs, drunks and youngsters drink that crap.

You must be a youngster.

heresmo · 09-10-2007, 18:43

Can't see myself how a caffeine/additives drink would cause a sudden shooting pain on one side of head. I'd have a word with your doc as if you were engaged in exercise, it might be something to do with referred pain. Strange to me that massaging your temples seemed to help, but I know nothing so feel free to ignore.

Might never find out and hopefully it won't happen again

Best
Mo

Basil · 09-10-2007, 19:39

Migraine is caused by a reflex spasm and then redilatation of the blood vessels at the base of the skull.
Many trigger factors contribute to it - even without a tendency towards it the factors mentioned - unilaterality, lack of sleep, cold, caffeine intake, sudden hard excercise- point towards it.
No dilated pupil on one side - wouldnt worry about it tbh...

gadgetman · 09-10-2007, 21:45

Also could be eye related.

If you havent had one recently, get an eye test. I was getting similar, increasing in frequency. Had CT scans and loads of tests.

Finally had an eye test, and learned I needed glasses for driving, computer etc.

stevenh · 09-10-2007, 23:46

caffeine is one of the potential triggers for migraine attacks.

Energy drinks are generally very high in caffeine.

Could be related!

Also, migraine triggers can be up to 48 hours prior to the attack itself - any potential causes in the 48 hours preceeding the attack?

I used to suffer from migraines every 6 months or so, very debilitating.

They then increased in frequency until they were 1, sometimes 2 a month and were affecting my work.

I now have them under control by taking low dosage of amatriptyline at night - an anti-depressant which has a side effect of migraine suppressant!

Back to one every 3-4 months now.

Different people get different symptoms with migraines, some get sparkly/flashing lights beforehand (Aura) some feel nauseous, etc, etc.

gillywibble · 09-10-2007, 23:54

I get very occasional intense pain just as you describe. Not sure on the cause, I have put it down to eye strain. Perhaps a trip to your opticians is in order?

devonutopia · 10-10-2007, 08:47

Optician has been visited recently and I have new driving glasses. Don't believe it was anything to do with my eyesight though - Think I'll ease off the stuff - Only ever really used it to keep awake on long journeys but thought some might give me a "kick" around the race! It did.... in the head.

The cold is starting to diminish now - bit snotty but my lungs are freeing up.

Actually have a bottle of "kick" in college, but it's minus the label and full of water from the cooler.

ag.morley · 10-10-2007, 08:53

Can I have the Mongrel ??.....................you know if owt 'appens

lozgti · 10-10-2007, 09:00

Get a lighter pram if you are struggling or modify your current one

Fancy taking stimulants to win the pram race

ScoobyChris · 10-10-2007, 09:19

At the risk of sounding like "Dad", I'd be going to the docs regardless to get it checked out, rather than relying on the opinions of a bunch of internet people. I'd rather waste the doctor's time and be given a clean bill of health than find out 3 years down the line I had something which could have been fixed if I'd let them know about it when it first happened......

Chris

mdk1 · 10-10-2007, 13:53

I agree with Chris, a quick visit to the Doc's should be first stop.

Basil · 10-10-2007, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

At the risk of sounding like "Dad", I'd be going to the docs regardless to get it checked out, rather than relying on the opinions of a bunch of internet people. I'd rather waste the doctor's time and be given a clean bill of health than find out 3 years down the line I had something which could have been fixed if I'd let them know about it when it first happened......

Chris

Chris does have a point here - if it recurs do see someone about it....
I think that there were some helpful suggestions made by several people in this thread - and I do happen to be a doctor btw...

Bas

gadgetman · 10-10-2007, 20:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScoobyChris

At the risk of sounding like "Dad", I'd be going to the docs regardless to get it checked out, rather than relying on the opinions of a bunch of internet people.

But I'm a professional, qualified doctor in gynaecology - honest ladies!

vrswhite · 10-10-2007, 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by gadgetman

But I'm a professional, qualified doctor in gynaecology - honest ladies!

i'm not but i'm a big fan of DIY

who's first?

Octygone · 10-10-2007, 21:31

Trip to the Doctors....and repeat after me "Caffein is not good"

Johnnyc · 10-10-2007, 23:46

I agree with the migraine theory. I got my first 1 a couple of years back. Felt like i'd been stabbed in the head. Was in the car making a right turn at the time too. Was closely followed by severe nausea. I felt like I was dying. I now know better obviously. lol

J

09-10-2007, 16:03	#1
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,087 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Possible health issue? Serious? Now, I'm not one to think "I'm going to die" - I have a very optimistic look on life, but something on Sunday made me wonder.... A little background. It was the annual local pram race that myself and some others have (now) won 7 years on the trot. I had to stay sober due to driving to Bristol (which didn't help to be honest )..... So, the race kicks off. Now, I'd drank approx half a litre of Tesco kick stuff - basically a cheap red bull. This could have helped to what happened. Basically I jogged about half a mile OK, but suddenly a massive pain shot through the left side of my head and behind my left eye. It was so bad I had to slow to a walk (even though not that knackered) and basically shut my eyes and massage my temples/head to alleviiate it a bit. It hurt so much and came on so fast - I did wonder whether it was some form of anneurism, etc - No loss of muscle use, paralysis - just excrutiating pain. This subsided eventually, and I was able to continue to win the race. To help with a better prognosis once in Bristol, I had very sudden cold symptoms, and now I'm nursing a rather snotty cold / cough. No return of headache though. Oh, and I had also been drinking the night before the race so had a slight hangover as well. Any thoughts. I'm sure I'm perfectly healthy, but the drugs within the "kick" drink and a combo of hangover, onsetting cold bug might have done something. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,257 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Possible health issue? Serious? Sounds like a migraine attack - an aneurysm would cause a fixed dilated pupil on one side. Pain would have increased until you lost consciousness and worse.... Sinus block is another possibility.. Having a cold coming on would have made this more likely. Nowt to worry about mate.... __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,087 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: Possible health issue? Serious? Never had a migraine before. The only time I've had similar headaches is when hungover, or having done too much with my eyes - such as watching TV for 8 hours [harks back to uni] I'm not too worried, but having hever had a headache come on so fast, it did make me think. I'm off to the post office in a second might drop into a chemist as well for something to alleviate the snots. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,087 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 352 Times in 295 Posts	Re: Possible health issue? Serious? Optician has been visited recently and I have new driving glasses. Don't believe it was anything to do with my eyesight though - Think I'll ease off the stuff - Only ever really used it to keep awake on long journeys but thought some might give me a "kick" around the race! It did.... in the head. The cold is starting to diminish now - bit snotty but my lungs are freeing up. Actually have a bottle of "kick" in college, but it's minus the label and full of water from the cooler. __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

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