BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums  
The site is under going some updates, please bear with us while we finish them off.

HID on projector headlamps

This is a discussion on HID on projector headlamps within the Roomster forums, part of the Skoda Model Discussion Area category; The projector lamps, with their single bulb and mechanical dipping, would appear to be a good candidate for HID conversion. ...


Go Back   BRISKODA - The Skoda Forums > Skoda Model Discussion Area > Roomster

Pronounced "bris-skoda", a brisk skoda.

Register Gallery FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read
Old 29-08-2008, 13:53   #1
Briskodian
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: East Hampshire
Posts: 50
Thanks: 3
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
HID on projector headlamps

The projector lamps, with their single bulb and mechanical dipping, would appear to be a good candidate for HID conversion. Anyone done it?

John
Meadway is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote

Find out about Freedom to remove these ads.

Old 29-08-2008, 15:32   #2
It's all good
 
Decron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cwmbran - South Wales
Posts: 3,528
Thanks: 65
Thanked 259 Times in 187 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Considered it, but it's still not really legal despite the projector lamps
Decron is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2008, 15:57   #3
Briskodian
 
irfant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Istanbul ,TR
Posts: 438
Thanks: 107
Thanked 58 Times in 43 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Lot of people have it in Turkey...

MTEC is a popular and god quality product... 6000K...
__________________
2007 Roomster 1.4 16V - after 3 years with 2004 Fabia 1.2 12V
http://www.skodaclubturkey.com

irfant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2008, 21:09   #4
Briskodian
 
JonA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Norway, Sandvika
Posts: 99
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

I have installed HID's in my MK2 Fabia Sport with curve projector headlights.. (Don't bother with the "no no's ) The reason for doing this was that I wasn't to impressed with the light output with the "bi-halogen" lights. It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....

I have been driving with the Xenon system installed for about 10 months and 10000km's and I still haven't experienced anyone flashing at me because of my lights blinding them. Adjust your headlights correct, and buy a kit with no more than 6000K preferably 4300K and all is good!

I'm happy with my headlights after the HID conversion

One thing you have to think about is if you have the curve projecting headlights is that the swiveling of the projectors can make the wiring to the bulbs break. I have had to replace a bulb/wire assembly because of a broken wire to the bulb.

Enjoy!
JonA is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2008, 21:19   #5
It's all good
 
Decron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cwmbran - South Wales
Posts: 3,528
Thanks: 65
Thanked 259 Times in 187 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonA View Post
I have installed HID's in my MK2 Fabia Sport with curve projector headlights.. (Don't bother with the "no no's ) The reason for doing this was that I wasn't to impressed with the light output with the "bi-halogen" lights. It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....

I have been driving with the Xenon system installed for about 10 months and 10000km's and I still haven't experienced anyone flashing at me because of my lights blinding them. Adjust your headlights correct, and buy a kit with no more than 6000K preferably 4300K and all is good!

I'm happy with my headlights after the HID conversion
There is another issue with this. The headlamp assembly only uses one bulb. The flash or hi-beam is run through a prism type mechanism meaning it will use the same bulb. If your using a Xenon bulb it means that when you flash your lights the bulb will have no where near enough time to reach peak operating temparature resulting a poor flash (As Xenon bulbs actually take up to 3 seconds to reach operating temp). You might not notice this but others certainly will and so could your MOT tester if so inclined. The regualtions in Norway may be different but in the UK it could be an issue.


Quote:
Originally Posted by JonA View Post
It ought to be possible to specify Xenon headlights on a new car.....
It is, just not on a shopping trolley

Last edited by Decron; 29-08-2008 at 22:28.
Decron is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2008, 22:41   #6
Briskodian
 
JonA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Norway, Sandvika
Posts: 99
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decron View Post
It is, just not on a shopping trolley.
I would pay extra for sufficient headlights even on a shopping trolley if I lived in a country that didn't have lights in the supermarkets..

Is the Fabia just a shopping trolley (what is the Octavia MKII?, a semi shopping trolley??) Surely that is not what the Fabia MK2 is sold/marketed as?? I find the MK2 Fabia almost perfect for my use, the one thing I was unhappy with was the headlights, which I think could have been better when you are willing to pay for it.

JonA is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 29-08-2008, 23:10   #7
Briskodian
 
JonA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Norway, Sandvika
Posts: 99
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

The daylight running lights/TFL which are obligatory in Norway (and hopefully soon in all other european countries) makes the "xenons won't light up if you hit the high beam just for a quick flash" point mute, as the bulbs are powered and reach full lighting power a few seconds after having started the engine. Is there a law in the UK that says that you can not use your headlights even in daylight?
JonA is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 30-08-2008, 05:11   #8
It's all good
 
Decron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cwmbran - South Wales
Posts: 3,528
Thanks: 65
Thanked 259 Times in 187 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonA View Post
The daylight running lights/TFL which are obligatory in Norway (and hopefully soon in all other european countries) makes the "xenons won't light up if you hit the high beam just for a quick flash" point mute, as the bulbs are powered and reach full lighting power a few seconds after having started the engine. Is there a law in the UK that says that you can not use your headlights even in daylight?
Well you have a solution but in the UK no one uses their headlamps in the day (We like to be able to see our motorcyclists) so therefore it's an issue

Department for Transport - Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps

This doesn't cover the warmup issue but it shows the stance taken.
Decron is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Decron For This Useful Post:
Fluffmeister (02-09-2008)
Old 30-08-2008, 05:17   #9
It's all good
 
Decron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cwmbran - South Wales
Posts: 3,528
Thanks: 65
Thanked 259 Times in 187 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by JonA View Post
I would pay extra for sufficient headlights even on a shopping trolley if I lived in a country that didn't have lights in the supermarkets..

Is the Fabia just a shopping trolley (what is the Octavia MKII?, a semi shopping trolley??) Surely that is not what the Fabia MK2 is sold/marketed as?? I find the MK2 Fabia almost perfect for my use, the one thing I was unhappy with was the headlights, which I think could have been better when you are willing to pay for it.

Octy has xenons available on everything except the Classic trim.

I have a Roomster which I fitted Phillips Extreme bulbs to and these have been excellent. You have found you needed to change something and you have done it however in the UK it's not that simple.
Decron is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 30-08-2008, 09:12   #10
Briskodian
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fife, Scotland
Posts: 570
Thanks: 13
Thanked 35 Times in 34 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Meadway,

I am not familiar with the roomsters headlamp units but, if they are like the OctyII's and have a 2 seperate bulbs, 1 for low (in the projector bit) and 1 for high (not in projector bit) then a HID conversion, although of dubious legality with the D.o.T etc will be fine.

The warm up issues that people mention will occur every time you switch your lights on, they will fire up instantly to a very bright light and then take a second to settle to there normal light output. When your lights are off, I beleive that when you flash your lights, both the low and highs will fire up. As the highs are still going to be halogens then no problem. In other words you do get light instantly when you "flash" someone. When your running with lows on and flash someone, the highs will just fire up.

Reports suggest that the aftermarket HIDS dont like been constantly flashed (constant start up and off) compared to halogens or OEM HIDS although when I had them I didnt have too much trouble with them.

hids4u are a reputable seller.

Steve
__________________
My Car - 2007 Octavia vRS TDI in Diamond Silver-Cruise Control-Parking Sensors-Light Assisit/Auto Wipers-Bluetooth-Jumbo Pack

For Work - 2004 Landrover Freelander TD4 Commercial - Owned and run by me


Something for Weekend - My Bed
Tomo1971 is online now  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 30-08-2008, 11:56   #11
Briskodian
 
irfant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Istanbul ,TR
Posts: 438
Thanks: 107
Thanked 58 Times in 43 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomo1971 View Post
Meadway,

I am not familiar with the roomsters headlamp units but, if they are like the OctyII's and have a 2 seperate bulbs, 1 for low (in the projector bit) and 1 for high (not in projector bit) then a HID conversion, although of dubious legality with the D.o.T etc will be fine.
Steve

Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...




__________________
2007 Roomster 1.4 16V - after 3 years with 2004 Fabia 1.2 12V
http://www.skodaclubturkey.com

irfant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to irfant For This Useful Post:
bahnstormer vrs (30-08-2008), Decron (30-08-2008), Fluffmeister (02-09-2008), gerasimos (30-08-2008), mise (31-08-2008), skisbp (30-08-2008)
Old 30-08-2008, 23:10   #12
Briskodian
 
bahnstormer vrs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Herts
Posts: 2,631
Thanks: 44
Thanked 153 Times in 138 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by irfant View Post
Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...




That's a great illustration of how Romster's headlights work; top man.

Must remember to get my Philips Extreme bulbs installed!
__________________
Mine - '07 Octavia vRS TDI, Superchips BlueFin (210bhp/293lbft) 'Winter wheels' 7.5J x 17" Audi S-line, Ultrac Sessantas 225/45 17, xenons, rear parking sensor, heated seats (driver's Recaro Style full leather), climate/jumbo etc., Koni FSDs, Neuspeed Rear ARB & Short-Shifter, K&N induction kit, RallyFlapZ - Colin McRae memorial decals.
Wife's - '08 Roomster Scout 1.6 Tiptronic, Cruise, parking sensors
Son's - '02 Fabia 1.4mpi, vRS 16" alloys, Michelin Pilot Exalto 2 195/45 16, vRS front bumper, Koni Sport shocks.
bahnstormer vrs is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to bahnstormer vrs For This Useful Post:
irfant (31-08-2008)
Old 31-08-2008, 00:36   #13
Briskodian
 
JonA's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Norway, Sandvika
Posts: 99
Thanks: 7
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decron View Post
Well you have a solution but in the UK no one uses their headlamps in the day (We like to be able to see our motorcyclists) so therefore it's an issue

Department for Transport - Aftermarket HID (Xenon) headlamps

This doesn't cover the warmup issue but it shows the stance taken.
I have been a "biker" for quite a few years... I didn't touch anything with four wheels (cage) as long as the roads were clear from ice,and I was not working..

I have been riding everything from a Yamaha SRX600 to a Fireblade both on track and on the road for a "few" years and I would NEVER use lights that disturb bikers on my "cage"..

The issue concerning bikers not being seen has a lot to do with how the individuals ride their bikes/ how they place themselves in the lanes. Using "high beam" and placing themselves in "the wrong lane" is just annoing. A biker using low beam and riding "correct" is both easier to see, and easier to relate to in traffic!!
JonA is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 31-08-2008, 03:02   #14
It's all good
 
Decron's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Cwmbran - South Wales
Posts: 3,528
Thanks: 65
Thanked 259 Times in 187 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by irfant View Post
Roomster and Fabia II projector headlights has only one bulb, H7.

They have bi-halogen projector, high beam has been triggered by a solenoid inside the projector...

Like this...




OMG did you actaully take your headlamp apart to do this?

Now thats dedication!
Decron is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Old 31-08-2008, 06:11   #15
Briskodian
 
irfant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Istanbul ,TR
Posts: 438
Thanks: 107
Thanked 58 Times in 43 Posts
Re: HID on projector headlamps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Decron View Post
OMG did you actaully take your headlamp apart to do this?
Oh no...
__________________
2007 Roomster 1.4 16V - after 3 years with 2004 Fabia 1.2 12V
http://www.skodaclubturkey.com

irfant is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.us
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads

Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Projector Headlights g0dz Fabia I 22 08-07-2008 19:36
Work Projector Suggestions Wardy The Tech Shed 0 19-06-2008 11:19
Projector headlamps for Octavia MartinDK Octavia I 1 15-05-2006 20:50
Projector headlights...... Jobo Fabia I 21 02-02-2006 10:42
Projector Lens Headlights yashicamat Fabia I 4 05-11-2005 13:50


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:00.


Disclaimer: This is not an official SKODA site and is not affiliated to SKODA in any way. Visit the Official SKODA Website.
Views and opinions are given by the poster and do not reflect the views of BRISKODA.net nor SKODA.
All trademarks and copyrights remain property of their respective owners.

PLEASE NOTE - PERSONAL ABUSE, ABUSE AGAINST THIS OR ANY OTHER WEBSITE OR ANY COMPANY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.
OFFENDERS WILL BE MODERATED OR EVEN BANNED
.

BRISKODA.net is operated by Summit 360 Ltd

Website © 2002-2008 BRISKODA ltd & SUMMIT360 ltd E. & O.E.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105