29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start

Lindopski · 19-05-2007, 12:48

Hi folks , we have a bit of a project here at the moment.
We received an old skoda from a friend,it belonged to his father and was regularly serviced at the main agent and kept in tip top condition until he died 7 years ago , it was driven into their garage and stayed there untouched ever since.

When we got it , we bought a new battery, got rid of the old stale petrol , and during this found the fuel pump was knackered and we bought a new one.

so far what we have discovered is that the car will turn over but not even attempt at firing.
I am no mechanic but we took out the plugs with a guy who knows about them and he said they were dry, we have checked the fuel line up as far as the injection gizmo under the air filter and up to there it is pumping fuel like crazy.
we did the usual take out a spark plug and stick it near the head trick and we have a spark.
Fuel + spark I thought meant go , but not for this favorit.

with the plugs being bone dry does this suggest injection system blocked ,and if so is it a bugger to check/fix.

any other suggestions would be great.

Its an old L- reg 1994 Skoda Favorit with an inection fuel system.

not having much fun here , my old Rover P6 was much easier to get going , new battery , new petrol and it was off after 10yrs standing lol.
carbs seem so much easier

Octygone · 19-05-2007, 12:54

Silly question but do you have the right key as I think there is one key that will open the doors and one with an immobiliser fitted that will start the car

Tom_vRS · 19-05-2007, 13:02

The immobiliser on the late Favorits wouldn't engage the starter if it wasn't de-immobilised.

AwesomeSarah · 19-05-2007, 13:11

OOOh if it is the immobilise you will not start it
Skoda do not have replacement immobiliser keys now either
You will have to bypass it , wow what a job it will be if you dont know how to do it , you may end up having to take it to a dealer to get it done
Sorry

Sarah

anewman · 19-05-2007, 14:25

I know very little compared to these guys here, but only other thign I can think of besides the fuel supply, is the distributor rotor arm, which should be cheap to replace.

The bosch monomotronic injection system does have some sort of diagnostic connector which I believe provides fault codes, but I know nothing more than that.

JHM Buttco has a fuel injection pump priced at £190 in their june 2006 catalogue. As for how easy it is to replace not a clue, sorry.

But the immobiliser definitely does not let the starter motor turn at all when engaged, which I know from experience trying to start when immobilised.

Lindopski · 19-05-2007, 16:37

hi folks

got it running after an afternoon
everything was fine with the electrics etc, I took out the injector itself tested the ohms resistance whic was below 3 which is normal.
checked the little plastic cap that covers the injector which has two small electric connections inside, they were both testing at 12v on turning the engine over.

eventually I just got two wires and zapped the little injector with 12v off the battery direct, it spat its dummy out and spat out some fuel.
stuck it all back together and the skoda is now running.

smells of eggs though , could be the cat moaning of 7 yrs being off road
brakes are knackered too as expected.

other wise its in mint (not at all rotten) condition.

Snoopie · 19-05-2007, 22:27

Just needs a service now. Oil etc..

KenONeill · 21-05-2007, 16:10

The "rotten eggs" smell suggests to me that you've not got all the old stale petrol out of the tank and lines yet. Old petrol is much more likely to contain sulphur compounds that the cat converts into sulphur oxides, and IIRC sulphurous oxide.

Basil · 21-05-2007, 16:19

I'd love to see some pics - they'd be really cool!

Dmac1969 · 21-05-2007, 19:37

Yeah cmon dude , give it a wash n polish and stick some pics up!

daverapid · 23-05-2007, 22:34

Well done for getting it going. I'd take some before wash and after wash pics if it were mine.

anewman · 27-05-2007, 15:49

It's a shame you probably wouldn't get much money for it, and I bet it's a *really* nice car, especially at only 29k miles and after 7 years kept in a garage.

Lindopski · 14-07-2007, 17:30

sorry for the delay in replying folks but the skoda has been left until today as we have had it booked in for an MOT this morning,just really to discover the problems with the car really.
Then....
As you may be aware here in the UK (wales especially as usual lol) we have had a lot of rain, well the Skoda has been sitting about for the last couple of weeks untouched in all this rain, well.
My brother called me this morning stating he had tried to start the skoda this morning and now all the lights on the dash were not working and there was a funny smell or burning.. oh boy.

As the story grew I quickly discovered that the skoda refused to start this morning after sitting around in the rain so a jump start was done from my dads Astra, all well and good but..... He isnt the brightest and has put the jump leads on back to front!!!!!!!!

I am no electrician but I have had the fuse box out and tested a few.
We can start the car , we have heaters working , interior lights, when hazzards are selected they work and the dash displays the hazard lights, also break lights work , but

we dont have main beam , actually any beam, no indicators, no lights on the dash, the fuel gauge doesnt rise the windscreen wipers dont work or the washers.
I am unsure as to where to start with this, what can be fried do you think.
The fuses I have taken out for lights etc are ok in fact they all seem intact.
I dont know how to check the relays but they all smell of electrical burning but that could be due to whatever has fried in the fuse box contaminating everything else.
there are wires going off everywhere.
Is there one that could cause all the above problems I can check with the multimeter.

shame we may have had either an Mot'd or at least an almost ready skoda this afternoon

as for the photie requests Ill try and remember to bring my digi down to my mums

**mannyo** · 14-07-2007, 17:38

Maybe there is more than one fusebox, and auxillary one somewhere, or the bulbs need replacing.

daverapid · 14-07-2007, 20:19

You need to replace the fusebox. They are a Favorit weakpoint and don't take kindly to reversed jump leads.

surprising_skod · 15-07-2007, 16:36

what dave said. everything you've fried is a relayed system and either ALL the relays are burnt out, or the fuseboard has melted.
make him pay for it lol.

theres no aux fusebox as mannyo suggested, although do check your bulbs as you could easily have done them in too...

rigsby · 19-07-2007, 22:28

It could possibly just be the main ignition relay, but if it is the fuse board ive got a spare if you fancy a trip to doncaster
cheers steve

19-05-2007, 12:48	#1
Lindopski Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Hi folks , we have a bit of a project here at the moment. We received an old skoda from a friend,it belonged to his father and was regularly serviced at the main agent and kept in tip top condition until he died 7 years ago , it was driven into their garage and stayed there untouched ever since. When we got it , we bought a new battery, got rid of the old stale petrol , and during this found the fuel pump was knackered and we bought a new one. so far what we have discovered is that the car will turn over but not even attempt at firing. I am no mechanic but we took out the plugs with a guy who knows about them and he said they were dry, we have checked the fuel line up as far as the injection gizmo under the air filter and up to there it is pumping fuel like crazy. we did the usual take out a spark plug and stick it near the head trick and we have a spark. Fuel + spark I thought meant go , but not for this favorit. with the plugs being bone dry does this suggest injection system blocked ,and if so is it a bugger to check/fix. any other suggestions would be great. Its an old L- reg 1994 Skoda Favorit with an inection fuel system. not having much fun here , my old Rover P6 was much easier to get going , new battery , new petrol and it was off after 10yrs standing lol. carbs seem so much easier

19-05-2007, 12:54	#2
Octygone Old Git Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,827 Members Car: Octavia II tdi ..for now Thanks: 182 Thanked 116 Times in 75 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Silly question but do you have the right key as I think there is one key that will open the doors and one with an immobiliser fitted that will start the car __________________

19-05-2007, 13:02	#3
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,559 Members Car: '97R BMW 328i Saloon Thanks: 679 Thanked 436 Times in 313 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start The immobiliser on the late Favorits wouldn't engage the starter if it wasn't de-immobilised. __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. Last edited by Tom_vRS; 19-05-2007 at 15:44.

19-05-2007, 13:11	#4
AwesomeSarah Site Sponsor Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 4,063 Members Car: Thanks: 36 Thanked 200 Times in 179 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start OOOh if it is the immobilise you will not start it Skoda do not have replacement immobiliser keys now either You will have to bypass it , wow what a job it will be if you dont know how to do it , you may end up having to take it to a dealer to get it done Sorry Sarah

19-05-2007, 14:25	#5
anewman Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,997 Members Car: 1994 Skoda Favorit GLXIe Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 263 Times in 237 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start I know very little compared to these guys here, but only other thign I can think of besides the fuel supply, is the distributor rotor arm, which should be cheap to replace. The bosch monomotronic injection system does have some sort of diagnostic connector which I believe provides fault codes, but I know nothing more than that. JHM Buttco has a fuel injection pump priced at £190 in their june 2006 catalogue. As for how easy it is to replace not a clue, sorry. But the immobiliser definitely does not let the starter motor turn at all when engaged, which I know from experience trying to start when immobilised.

19-05-2007, 16:37	#6
Lindopski Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start hi folks got it running after an afternoon everything was fine with the electrics etc, I took out the injector itself tested the ohms resistance whic was below 3 which is normal. checked the little plastic cap that covers the injector which has two small electric connections inside, they were both testing at 12v on turning the engine over. eventually I just got two wires and zapped the little injector with 12v off the battery direct, it spat its dummy out and spat out some fuel. stuck it all back together and the skoda is now running. smells of eggs though , could be the cat moaning of 7 yrs being off road brakes are knackered too as expected. other wise its in mint (not at all rotten) condition.

19-05-2007, 22:27	#7
Snoopie Permanently banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Buckingham Palace Car Park Posts: 4,458 Members Car: Honda Civic Type-R Thanks: 86 Thanked 85 Times in 52 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Just needs a service now. Oil etc..

21-05-2007, 16:10	#8
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally in Scotland! Posts: 11,213 Members Car: Octavia TDi110 Thanks: 65 Thanked 561 Times in 549 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start The "rotten eggs" smell suggests to me that you've not got all the old stale petrol out of the tank and lines yet. Old petrol is much more likely to contain sulphur compounds that the cat converts into sulphur oxides, and IIRC sulphurous oxide.

21-05-2007, 16:19	#9
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,258 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 200 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start I'd love to see some pics - they'd be really cool! __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

21-05-2007, 19:37	#10
Dmac1969 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Berwick upon Tweed , Northumberland. Posts: 2,469 Members Car: Fabia 1.4 MPi Comfort Images: 1 Thanks: 19 Thanked 57 Times in 44 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Yeah cmon dude , give it a wash n polish and stick some pics up! __________________ Duncan - England's most Northerly Briskodian! 2000/V reg Fabia 1.4 Mpi Comfort-Dynamic Blue Ex Octavia vRS and Octavia Slxi 1.8T.

23-05-2007, 22:34	#11
daverapid Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sawston, Cambridgeshire Posts: 881 Members Car: SKODA RAPID 136 Thanks: 20 Thanked 95 Times in 87 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Well done for getting it going. I'd take some before wash and after wash pics if it were mine. __________________ David McKinney TREASURER OF SKODA OWNERS CLUB GREAT BRITAIN www.skoda-owners-club.org.uk

27-05-2007, 15:49	#12
anewman Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,997 Members Car: 1994 Skoda Favorit GLXIe Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 1,120 Thanked 263 Times in 237 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start It's a shame you probably wouldn't get much money for it, and I bet it's a really nice car, especially at only 29k miles and after 7 years kept in a garage.

14-07-2007, 17:30	#13
Lindopski Briskodian Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start sorry for the delay in replying folks but the skoda has been left until today as we have had it booked in for an MOT this morning,just really to discover the problems with the car really. Then.... As you may be aware here in the UK (wales especially as usual lol) we have had a lot of rain, well the Skoda has been sitting about for the last couple of weeks untouched in all this rain, well. My brother called me this morning stating he had tried to start the skoda this morning and now all the lights on the dash were not working and there was a funny smell or burning.. oh boy. As the story grew I quickly discovered that the skoda refused to start this morning after sitting around in the rain so a jump start was done from my dads Astra, all well and good but..... He isnt the brightest and has put the jump leads on back to front!!!!!!!! I am no electrician but I have had the fuse box out and tested a few. We can start the car , we have heaters working , interior lights, when hazzards are selected they work and the dash displays the hazard lights, also break lights work , but we dont have main beam , actually any beam, no indicators, no lights on the dash, the fuel gauge doesnt rise the windscreen wipers dont work or the washers. I am unsure as to where to start with this, what can be fried do you think. The fuses I have taken out for lights etc are ok in fact they all seem intact. I dont know how to check the relays but they all smell of electrical burning but that could be due to whatever has fried in the fuse box contaminating everything else. there are wires going off everywhere. Is there one that could cause all the above problems I can check with the multimeter. shame we may have had either an Mot'd or at least an almost ready skoda this afternoon as for the photie requests Ill try and remember to bring my digi down to my mums

14-07-2007, 17:38	#14
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,474 Members Car: Octavia 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 58 Thanked 361 Times in 332 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start Maybe there is more than one fusebox, and auxillary one somewhere, or the bulbs need replacing. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

14-07-2007, 20:19	#15
daverapid Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sawston, Cambridgeshire Posts: 881 Members Car: SKODA RAPID 136 Thanks: 20 Thanked 95 Times in 87 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start You need to replace the fusebox. They are a Favorit weakpoint and don't take kindly to reversed jump leads. __________________ David McKinney TREASURER OF SKODA OWNERS CLUB GREAT BRITAIN www.skoda-owners-club.org.uk

15-07-2007, 16:36	#16
surprising_skod Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: N.I. Posts: 258 Members Car: mk1 fav Thanks: 2 Thanked 40 Times in 36 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start what dave said. everything you've fried is a relayed system and either ALL the relays are burnt out, or the fuseboard has melted. make him pay for it lol. theres no aux fusebox as mannyo suggested, although do check your bulbs as you could easily have done them in too...

19-07-2007, 22:28	#17
rigsby Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: DONCASTER Posts: 1,120 Members Car: FELICIA FUN,FAVORIT,FABIA TDI,ESTELLE ROADSTER Thanks: 18 Thanked 116 Times in 112 Posts	Re: 29,000 Mile Skoda sat in garage 7 yrs and wont start It could possibly just be the main ignition relay, but if it is the fuse board ive got a spare if you fancy a trip to doncaster cheers steve __________________ I DONT WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!

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