Real Mk1 Octavias

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 00:54

Now most people on here will be thinking a Mk1 Octavia looks abit like this ...

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 00:58

However .....

Last November I bought this ...
Which is undergoing restoration after 25 years of laying dormant

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 01:00

However,
i'd been struggling to get spare parts,
until I visited a nice man in London & filled this ....

He's a jolly nice man because he drives this (not for sale)

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 01:02

But I think he's a jolly nice man,
because, he also sold me this ....

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 01:03

Which is now with it's friend ....

RobClubley · 08-08-2007, 01:19

Absolutely brilliant! Great to see some really old Skodas still looked after

KTP · 08-08-2007, 01:29

nice, proper old skool

mluton · 08-08-2007, 01:30

love it, a true mk1.

hope the project goes well.

Wardy · 08-08-2007, 02:49

Good to see - well done that man

Steve

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 09:13

thanks for the positive comments guys
the red combi should be going into the paintshop next week

ive also got this wee beastie
although it's currently in bits too ....

KenONeill · 08-08-2007, 13:11

That sedan is utterly gorgeous.

Not quite so sure about the estate though. Speaking of which, is it just me or does it look a fair bit like an Ovlov PV544?

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 15:11

The Combi is from near the end of the production run
so it has a different dashboard & it has the same rear lights as the s100 /s110r.

There's some visual similarities with the swede that Ken mentions
there's also the Hillman Husky to compare against too.

Personally I think the FWD Octy's look like the Volvo S40 on a year by year basis
as I think that's where they aim the marketing
(although I could be completely wrong)

cheers ... Darren

soviet · 08-08-2007, 17:28

Lovely to see pics of the old skoda's, and especially liked the Lada that the very nice man, as you called him owned. I have owned two Lada's in my younger days.
Not both at the same time.

The Skoda body work in the photographs look relatively rust free, and I have always remembered a story, which I do not know if it has any truth in it.

It goes like this:- When Adolf Hitlers lot took over the Skoda factories during the WW2, they developed a certain paint technology, which was used on their tanks and vehicles for the war effort. This was reputedly used after the war, on Skoda cars, and that is why the engine would give notice, and jump out of a Skoda, before there were any rust problems.
Where the early Skodas made of galvanised steel sheet, does any one know? As this could also be a reason for the lack of rust on them.

May be a bit of a tall story, but has any one else heard something similar to this?

Soviet

gcr31463 · 08-08-2007, 18:17

Both of my old Octavias are pretty good bodywork wise,
there's a rain channel on the front wings near the doors
that needs sorting on both.

The Estelle has gone on the inner sills but otherwise they're not bad for their time.
Skoda were quite innovative in corrosion protection for the limited resources they had.
The issues with Skodas (in the UK esecially) tended to be perception based on low price
and rather dated looking interiors rather than anything being fundamentally wrong.

This 1983 video has just been put on youtube (not by me)
it's a bit shaky as the VHS tape was worn out apparantly
but it does give an insight into Estelle & Rapid production

YouTube - Production of Skoda cars 1983

rigsby · 08-08-2007, 21:58

glad to see you have saved another one darren
cheers steve

rigsby · 08-08-2007, 22:00

btw what is that clamp on yo nuskool occy for?

m17rkj · 09-08-2007, 03:51

that skoda production video is just superb. (excuse the pun)

takes me back to the days of my old 105s.

Mark

Dr Zoidberg · 09-08-2007, 07:31

Excellent , nice to see one of the originals.

I have the owners manual for one sat on my bookshelf

KenONeill · 09-08-2007, 09:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by soviet

The Skoda body work in the photographs look relatively rust free, and I have always remembered a story, which I do not know if it has any truth in it.

It goes like this:- When Adolf Hitlers lot took over the Skoda factories during the WW2, they developed a certain paint technology, which was used on their tanks and vehicles for the war effort. This was reputedly used after the war, on Skoda cars, and that is why the engine would give notice, and jump out of a Skoda, before there were any rust problems.
Where the early Skodas made of galvanised steel sheet, does any one know? As this could also be a reason for the lack of rust on them.

May be a bit of a tall story, but has any one else heard something similar to this?

Soviet

I've not heard anything like this before, and I am into military vehicles (as well as many many other things). I think galvanised steel might be a bit of a red herring though, since the VW Type 1 and 2 had a similar reputation, which was based on good underbody design avoiding most of the dirt, water and rust traps that 40s and 50s unitary shells typically had.

soviet · 09-08-2007, 11:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenONeill

I've not heard anything like this before, and I am into military vehicles (as well as many many other things). I think galvanised steel might be a bit of a red herring though, since the VW Type 1 and 2 had a similar reputation, which was based on good underbody design avoiding most of the dirt, water and rust traps that 40s and 50s unitary shells typically had.

Hi Ken,

This was told to me by a technican of balistics, that works at one of the millatary schools around Swindon. I recall him saying that he fires ball bearings at different types of materials all day.

Think it is Shrivenham, as he did mention it, but I don't remember for sure. When I see him again I will ask.

It was in the pub, and I happened to mention that I had just bought a Skoda, and that was what he came out with, after I happened to mention that I didn't see many rusty Skoda's about, even the older versions. He may have had a few too many, but he seemed pretty convincing. Why he would know something about this, I don't have a clue. Wish that I had asked for more info. and also how he would know about something like this.

You say about the similar reputations that the VW Type 1 and 2 had, but I am a bit confused, as where these galvanised? or do you mean it was just the good underbody design that kept the rust away?

Cheers

Soviet

KenONeill · 09-08-2007, 12:42

Shrivenham sounds plausible. DAMHIKT.

I meant that the VWs had good basic design, not that they were galvanised (cos they weren't).

gcr31463 · 09-08-2007, 16:57

Well done Steve for spotting the clamp!

It was about two years ago in Camden.
I'd parked perfectly legally & paid quite handsomely for the privilege too.
But Camden are a set of "robbing barstewards" & they clamped me anyway.
I had to pay by credit card to have the clam removed & then write in & appeal.
Luckily, I had a camera with me, so I took a dozen photos of the street signs,
the road markings, the valid pay & display ticket in the windscreen.
I wrote to Camden three times, at monthly intervals reminding them,
before they sent me a letter basically saying ....
We're not admitting we were wrong,
but as a goodwill gesture here's your money back.

So if you park in Camden, make sure you've got a portable generator,
and an angle grinder in your boot.!!!

For any Southerners, the white fluffy sstuff in one of the pictures is called snow,
you might look it up in a history book!!

cheers ... Darren

anewman · 09-08-2007, 20:09

Love the pics in this thread. I know I could print this thread out and show a friend and they'd be very impressed

anewman · 09-08-2007, 20:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by gcr31463

So if you park in Camden, make sure you've got a portable generator,
and an angle grinder in your boot.!!!

Other thing you could do is carry a set of 2 wheel clamps. Park with the wheels on one side right up against the kerb and then put the clamps on the other 2 wheels. This way they have no possible way of putting a clamp on the car. You come back, you have the key to your clamps, remove them and get on your way.
They may also think you have already been seen to when they see the clamp and ignore your car.

Dmac1969 · 09-08-2007, 20:34

Nice pics , I have a little mini-Brochure of that shape Octavia...

PS since we are on the subject of old Skodas , I snapped this beastie about 12-15 years ago at a local Classic car show (way way before I bought my 1st Skoda , I liked them back then too) .................1963 Felicia Cabriolet.

08-08-2007, 00:54	#1
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Real Mk1 Octavias Now most people on here will be thinking a Mk1 Octavia looks abit like this ... __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/ Last edited by gcr31463; 08-08-2007 at 00:55. Reason: missed a bracket off which broke the photo link

08-08-2007, 00:58	#2
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias However ..... Last November I bought this ... Which is undergoing restoration after 25 years of laying dormant __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 01:00	#3
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias However, i'd been struggling to get spare parts, until I visited a nice man in London & filled this .... He's a jolly nice man because he drives this (not for sale) __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 01:02	#4
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias But I think he's a jolly nice man, because, he also sold me this .... __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 01:03	#5
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Which is now with it's friend .... __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 01:19	#6
RobClubley Midnight Mod! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Aotearoa - land of the long white cloud Posts: 7,047 Members Car: 2004 Octavia vRS Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 155 Thanked 161 Times in 134 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Absolutely brilliant! Great to see some really old Skodas still looked after __________________ Corrida Red 2004 Octavia vRS Estate - It's the bestest Skoda in New Zealand! Whaia te mātauranga, whaia te māramatanga - Pursue knowledge, pursue the wisdom of knowledge www.pimpmyskoda.co.uk www.clubley.org Facebook

08-08-2007, 01:29	#7
KTP eeeeeeeeevil. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 1,490 Members Car: Thanks: 27 Thanked 55 Times in 52 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias nice, proper old skool __________________

08-08-2007, 01:30	#8
mluton Briskodian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: South Birmingham Posts: 6,402 Members Car: Red Octavia vRS 1.8T (20v) Thanks: 46 Thanked 227 Times in 202 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias love it, a true mk1. hope the project goes well. __________________ Support Briskoda----------------------> Red Skoda Octavia V//RS Mods to date: Carbonio CAI Forge 007 DV Aero Wipers Briskoda Stickers KVW100 GB Wheel Inserts RS Tuning Remap Delocked Piper Cat Back Kenwood KDC-W6541U Fli Twin 12" Active Sub Parrot CK3100 *------------------------------------------------*

08-08-2007, 02:49	#9
Wardy 207/340 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Around Manchester & Cheshire Posts: 11,751 Members Car: Skoda Fabia vRS Thanks: 457 Thanked 371 Times in 359 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Good to see - well done that man Steve __________________ Wardy's Fabia vRS xenons : sunroof : cruise : OEM+ "Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen "If in doubt, flat out." - Colin McRae

08-08-2007, 09:13	#10
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias thanks for the positive comments guys the red combi should be going into the paintshop next week ive also got this wee beastie although it's currently in bits too .... __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 13:11	#11
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally in Scotland! Posts: 11,221 Members Car: Octavia TDi110 Thanks: 65 Thanked 561 Times in 549 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias That sedan is utterly gorgeous. Not quite so sure about the estate though. Speaking of which, is it just me or does it look a fair bit like an Ovlov PV544?

08-08-2007, 15:11	#12
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias The Combi is from near the end of the production run so it has a different dashboard & it has the same rear lights as the s100 /s110r. There's some visual similarities with the swede that Ken mentions there's also the Hillman Husky to compare against too. Personally I think the FWD Octy's look like the Volvo S40 on a year by year basis as I think that's where they aim the marketing (although I could be completely wrong) cheers ... Darren __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 17:28	#13
soviet Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Swindon Posts: 928 Members Car: skoda 2002 1600 lx saloon Thanks: 63 Thanked 19 Times in 19 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Lovely to see pics of the old skoda's, and especially liked the Lada that the very nice man, as you called him owned. I have owned two Lada's in my younger days. Not both at the same time. The Skoda body work in the photographs look relatively rust free, and I have always remembered a story, which I do not know if it has any truth in it. It goes like this:- When Adolf Hitlers lot took over the Skoda factories during the WW2, they developed a certain paint technology, which was used on their tanks and vehicles for the war effort. This was reputedly used after the war, on Skoda cars, and that is why the engine would give notice, and jump out of a Skoda, before there were any rust problems. Where the early Skodas made of galvanised steel sheet, does any one know? As this could also be a reason for the lack of rust on them. May be a bit of a tall story, but has any one else heard something similar to this? Soviet

08-08-2007, 18:17	#14
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Both of my old Octavias are pretty good bodywork wise, there's a rain channel on the front wings near the doors that needs sorting on both. The Estelle has gone on the inner sills but otherwise they're not bad for their time. Skoda were quite innovative in corrosion protection for the limited resources they had. The issues with Skodas (in the UK esecially) tended to be perception based on low price and rather dated looking interiors rather than anything being fundamentally wrong. This 1983 video has just been put on youtube (not by me) it's a bit shaky as the VHS tape was worn out apparantly but it does give an insight into Estelle & Rapid production YouTube - Production of Skoda cars 1983 __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

08-08-2007, 21:58	#15
rigsby Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: DONCASTER Posts: 1,120 Members Car: FELICIA FUN,FAVORIT,FABIA TDI,ESTELLE ROADSTER Thanks: 18 Thanked 116 Times in 112 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias glad to see you have saved another one darren cheers steve __________________ I DONT WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!

08-08-2007, 22:00	#16
rigsby Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: DONCASTER Posts: 1,120 Members Car: FELICIA FUN,FAVORIT,FABIA TDI,ESTELLE ROADSTER Thanks: 18 Thanked 116 Times in 112 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias btw what is that clamp on yo nuskool occy for? __________________ I DONT WANT TO DIE A GROWN UP!

09-08-2007, 03:51	#17
m17rkj Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Posts: 1,164 Members Car: 2005 focus ZTW Thanks: 16 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias that skoda production video is just superb. (excuse the pun) takes me back to the days of my old 105s. Mark __________________ "I don't even know what street Canada is on." Al Capone.

09-08-2007, 07:31	#18
Dr Zoidberg Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: On the back of an AA truck with a failed turbo Posts: 10,758 Members Car: Octavia II 2.0 TDi Elegance Thanks: 30 Thanked 195 Times in 146 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Excellent , nice to see one of the originals. I have the owners manual for one sat on my bookshelf __________________ Alex "I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away" www.drzoidberg.co.uk

09-08-2007, 12:42	#21
KenONeill Briskodian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Normally in Scotland! Posts: 11,221 Members Car: Octavia TDi110 Thanks: 65 Thanked 561 Times in 549 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Shrivenham sounds plausible. DAMHIKT. I meant that the VWs had good basic design, not that they were galvanised (cos they weren't).

09-08-2007, 16:57	#22
gcr31463 Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 748 Members Car: Thanks: 20 Thanked 24 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Well done Steve for spotting the clamp! It was about two years ago in Camden. I'd parked perfectly legally & paid quite handsomely for the privilege too. But Camden are a set of "robbing barstewards" & they clamped me anyway. I had to pay by credit card to have the clam removed & then write in & appeal. Luckily, I had a camera with me, so I took a dozen photos of the street signs, the road markings, the valid pay & display ticket in the windscreen. I wrote to Camden three times, at monthly intervals reminding them, before they sent me a letter basically saying .... We're not admitting we were wrong, but as a goodwill gesture here's your money back. So if you park in Camden, make sure you've got a portable generator, and an angle grinder in your boot.!!! For any Southerners, the white fluffy sstuff in one of the pictures is called snow, you might look it up in a history book!! cheers ... Darren __________________ Octy II 2.0 (?Turbo?)DI Plus some RWD stuff. Next trip from Scunthorpe & Doncaster http://briskoda.net/midlands-skoda-m...26-oct/125071/

09-08-2007, 20:09	#23
anewman Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Posts: 2,997 Members Car: 1994 Skoda Favorit GLXIe Estate Images: 1 Thanks: 1,121 Thanked 263 Times in 237 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Love the pics in this thread. I know I could print this thread out and show a friend and they'd be very impressed

09-08-2007, 20:34	#25
Dmac1969 Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Berwick upon Tweed , Northumberland. Posts: 2,469 Members Car: Fabia 1.4 MPi Comfort Images: 1 Thanks: 19 Thanked 57 Times in 44 Posts	Re: Real Mk1 Octavias Nice pics , I have a little mini-Brochure of that shape Octavia... PS since we are on the subject of old Skodas , I snapped this beastie about 12-15 years ago at a local Classic car show (way way before I bought my 1st Skoda , I liked them back then too) .................1963 Felicia Cabriolet. __________________ Duncan - England's most Northerly Briskodian! 2000/V reg Fabia 1.4 Mpi Comfort-Dynamic Blue Ex Octavia vRS and Octavia Slxi 1.8T.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode