Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped

TeflonTom · 10-08-2006, 18:03

oh $hit is all i can say!!!!

i replaced the timing belts and tensioners + roller & water pump on one of my mates cars yesterday. and he's just bought it round to me cos it's not running very nice (his words not mine). i've had a look and it seems that the timing belt has jumped about 4 teeth out....

and before anybody says it. yes i did check it all and i did turn it over by hand first.

consequently it has probably clipped all the inlet valves.

looks like it's a head-off job tomorrow then(or this evening).

**VRStu** · 10-08-2006, 18:36

Pitfalls of trying to do someone a favour I'm afraid.

Lummox · 10-08-2006, 19:42

Opps.

Belts dont normally just 'jump' on thier own, must be something wrong (tensioner not done up correctly etc). Did you do both belts?

TeflonTom · 10-08-2006, 20:07

yes i did both belts, both tensioners, and the idle roller as well.

i've investigated it a bit further now, and it seems that the upper tensioner(the one between the cams) has broken. i think i'm going down to where he bought the parts tomorrow and see what they say about it. these parts should have a waranty shouldn't they even though it was non-genuiune??? maybe they can pay for a new set of valves and head gasket kit and head bolts.

fortunately i've got a spare cylinder head for one of these kicking around in my shed.

**VRStu** · 10-08-2006, 20:14

I reckon you'll have a battle on to prove the parts at fault, doubt they'll just roll over.

Lummox · 10-08-2006, 20:17

Them top tensioners are an **** to get in but dont normally break once replaced.

TeflonTom · 10-08-2006, 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

I reckon you'll have a battle on to prove the parts at fault, doubt they'll just roll over.

i buy an aweful lot from that particular motor factor (not mentioning names) so i doubt if there will be any trouble. they've allways looked after me in the past.

TeflonTom · 11-08-2006, 23:55

fixed it all now, took the head off for no reason though. there were no clipped valves or anything. better to be safe than sorry i say. i reseated them all while i was there too, this was necessary because the guys been running it on LRP for a short while and some of the exhuast valve seats were a bit pitted. it's running better now than it has for a long time.

ric04vrs · 12-08-2006, 21:24

did the motor factor give you some free parts , head gasket etc , when you returned with the broken/faulty tensioner ?

TeflonTom · 12-08-2006, 21:44

yes, they replaced the timing belts and tensioners for free. which i expected them to do anyway! and they met me half way with the cost of the head gasket set and head bolts.

Lummox · 12-08-2006, 21:45

Winner then, glad everything worked out in the end.

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10-08-2006, 18:03	#1
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,983 Thanks: 43 Thanked 210 Times in 182 Posts	Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped oh $hit is all i can say!!!! i replaced the timing belts and tensioners + roller & water pump on one of my mates cars yesterday. and he's just bought it round to me cos it's not running very nice (his words not mine). i've had a look and it seems that the timing belt has jumped about 4 teeth out.... and before anybody says it. yes i did check it all and i did turn it over by hand first. consequently it has probably clipped all the inlet valves. looks like it's a head-off job tomorrow then(or this evening). __________________ vorsprung durch czechnik

10-08-2006, 18:36	#2
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,439 Thanks: 116 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped Pitfalls of trying to do someone a favour I'm afraid. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

10-08-2006, 19:42	#3
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,816 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped Opps. Belts dont normally just 'jump' on thier own, must be something wrong (tensioner not done up correctly etc). Did you do both belts? __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

10-08-2006, 20:07	#4
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,983 Thanks: 43 Thanked 210 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped yes i did both belts, both tensioners, and the idle roller as well. i've investigated it a bit further now, and it seems that the upper tensioner(the one between the cams) has broken. i think i'm going down to where he bought the parts tomorrow and see what they say about it. these parts should have a waranty shouldn't they even though it was non-genuiune??? maybe they can pay for a new set of valves and head gasket kit and head bolts. fortunately i've got a spare cylinder head for one of these kicking around in my shed. __________________ vorsprung durch czechnik

10-08-2006, 20:14	#5
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,439 Thanks: 116 Thanked 925 Times in 830 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped I reckon you'll have a battle on to prove the parts at fault, doubt they'll just roll over. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - Hmm, Have a guess...... SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

10-08-2006, 20:17	#6
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,816 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped Them top tensioners are an **** to get in but dont normally break once replaced. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

11-08-2006, 23:55	#8
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,983 Thanks: 43 Thanked 210 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped fixed it all now, took the head off for no reason though. there were no clipped valves or anything. better to be safe than sorry i say. i reseated them all while i was there too, this was necessary because the guys been running it on LRP for a short while and some of the exhuast valve seats were a bit pitted. it's running better now than it has for a long time. __________________ vorsprung durch czechnik

12-08-2006, 21:24	#9
ric04vrs I parked up 1st Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: not near enough to the Ring Posts: 6,103 Thanks: 29 Thanked 177 Times in 172 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped did the motor factor give you some free parts , head gasket etc , when you returned with the broken/faulty tensioner ? __________________ not so bored now

12-08-2006, 21:44	#10
TeflonTom Briskodiodion Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hayling Island, Hampshire Posts: 7,983 Thanks: 43 Thanked 210 Times in 182 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped yes, they replaced the timing belts and tensioners for free. which i expected them to do anyway! and they met me half way with the cost of the head gasket set and head bolts. __________________ vorsprung durch czechnik

12-08-2006, 21:45	#11
Lummox U18 Automotive Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Newport Pagnell Posts: 21,816 Thanks: 22 Thanked 658 Times in 554 Posts	Re: Seat Arosa 16v - Timing Belt Jumped Winner then, glad everything worked out in the end. __________________ Unit 18 Automotive Services now open Servicing, repairs, modifications you name it we do it. Cupra console bushes at special price, PM for a very competitive quote.

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