VAG cars - intercooler positioning

critch · 25-07-2006, 13:14

Hi there

don`t know if this is in the relevant forum may get moved,

The reason for the question is due to family growing needed a load hugger bought audi a6 avant 1900 tdi (130) don`t worry wife now has my furby vrs
and she loves it.

can anyone tell me if all vag tdi engines vw seat audi etc all use the smic or do they use fmic instead because i felt the effects of the heat sink from the engine bay to the intercooler on a hot day and being a larger car maybe worse.

cheers
critch

devonutopia · 25-07-2006, 13:30

Suspect the smic on that car is in the same place as most other cars, down inside the offside front wing, behind the wheel arch. Not well vented and fairly inefficient in this weather at cooling down turbocharged air.

Edit: Should be pretty much the same as the furby. Can you tell the difference between the two?

critch · 25-07-2006, 13:39

hi there devonutopia

only thing i did notice is that the turbo spool up was less aggresive than the furby it was more of a gentle spread of power.

but thinking more about it maybe the size of the car gave the illusion but it maybe most audi owners have pipe and slippers and haven`t had the privilege to own a furby vrs.

faboka vrs · 25-07-2006, 13:41

Think you'll find all the PD130 vag cars have a smic but slightly bigger. Still would of thought you'll get heatsoak. The newer PD140/170 have a fmic as do the PD150 and PD160.

critch · 25-07-2006, 13:50

cheers faboka

I was hoping that that it might be a fmic but hopefully they have put something in the wheel arch to reduce some heat build up but i`ll find out on monday when I pick it up.

I`ll post a small reply after a few days to say where it is and if it has heat sink probs.

cheers
critch

WW_VRS · 25-07-2006, 15:18

Search for Pikey Mod 1 or wheel arch vent - the concept should apply to cars with SMIC fitted pretty much

nickliv · 25-07-2006, 15:28

This isn't a problem exclusive to VAG cars, my old saab 900T had int intercooler behind the left hand headlight, in the engine bay. It was awful in the warm weather. Itjust worked like a heatsink, until it got hot it was fine, when it got hot it never cooled down and was about as much use as tits on fish.

critch · 03-08-2006, 11:35

Hi there

sorry for the delay just had chance to find out where the smic is.

the smic is mounted on the right side of the car looking from the front
my wife`s furby vrs is situated on the left.

did notice that there is a proper air channel in the lower half of the bumper not covered by fog lights and you can just see part of the smic.

after removing some plastic covers seen the smic better, it seems alot larger than the furby vrs just by sight alone and it`s mounted at an angle of about 20/25 degrees from vertical towards the front of the car ????.

but there is no vents in the wheel arch but a vast amount of engine bay space between the cooler and any heat source, engine ,turbo, exhaust seem miles away but soon find out when i`ve took it for a blast or a hot day.

cheers
critch

25-07-2006, 13:14	#1
critch Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rotherham Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	VAG cars - intercooler positioning Hi there don`t know if this is in the relevant forum may get moved, The reason for the question is due to family growing needed a load hugger bought audi a6 avant 1900 tdi (130) don`t worry wife now has my furby vrs and she loves it. can anyone tell me if all vag tdi engines vw seat audi etc all use the smic or do they use fmic instead because i felt the effects of the heat sink from the engine bay to the intercooler on a hot day and being a larger car maybe worse. cheers critch

25-07-2006, 13:30	#2
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ooo-ar, Oi be from Devonshire Posts: 29,506 Thanks: 60 Thanked 308 Times in 253 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning Suspect the smic on that car is in the same place as most other cars, down inside the offside front wing, behind the wheel arch. Not well vented and fairly inefficient in this weather at cooling down turbocharged air. Edit: Should be pretty much the same as the furby. Can you tell the difference between the two? __________________ Jason - Mongrel owner! WOOOOF! Grrrrr Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

25-07-2006, 13:39	#3
critch Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rotherham Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning hi there devonutopia only thing i did notice is that the turbo spool up was less aggresive than the furby it was more of a gentle spread of power. but thinking more about it maybe the size of the car gave the illusion but it maybe most audi owners have pipe and slippers and haven`t had the privilege to own a furby vrs.

25-07-2006, 13:41	#4
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 5,948 Thanks: 11 Thanked 35 Times in 35 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning Think you'll find all the PD130 vag cars have a smic but slightly bigger. Still would of thought you'll get heatsoak. The newer PD140/170 have a fmic as do the PD150 and PD160. __________________ John Take away the poor damping, inadequate bushes, heavy diesel lump and spongy brakes its not a bad warm hatch

25-07-2006, 13:50	#5
critch Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rotherham Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning cheers faboka I was hoping that that it might be a fmic but hopefully they have put something in the wheel arch to reduce some heat build up but i`ll find out on monday when I pick it up. I`ll post a small reply after a few days to say where it is and if it has heat sink probs. cheers critch

25-07-2006, 15:18	#6
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,742 Thanks: 44 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning Search for Pikey Mod 1 or wheel arch vent - the concept should apply to cars with SMIC fitted pretty much __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

25-07-2006, 15:28	#7
nickliv Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 191 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning This isn't a problem exclusive to VAG cars, my old saab 900T had int intercooler behind the left hand headlight, in the engine bay. It was awful in the warm weather. Itjust worked like a heatsink, until it got hot it was fine, when it got hot it never cooled down and was about as much use as tits on fish. __________________ Present cars 1 2006 red VW Golf GT 170 tdi. SWMBOs new missile 1 2006 silver fabia vrs, with cruise, ESP, Heated Seats, Side airbags, and a VAG X1 mp3 adaptor.

03-08-2006, 11:35	#8
critch Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Rotherham Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: VAG cars - intercooler positioning Hi there sorry for the delay just had chance to find out where the smic is. the smic is mounted on the right side of the car looking from the front my wife`s furby vrs is situated on the left. did notice that there is a proper air channel in the lower half of the bumper not covered by fog lights and you can just see part of the smic. after removing some plastic covers seen the smic better, it seems alot larger than the furby vrs just by sight alone and it`s mounted at an angle of about 20/25 degrees from vertical towards the front of the car ????. but there is no vents in the wheel arch but a vast amount of engine bay space between the cooler and any heat source, engine ,turbo, exhaust seem miles away but soon find out when i`ve took it for a blast or a hot day. cheers critch

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