Track Days

day tripper · 29-05-2003, 22:59

I am well up for this, id pay up to 100, travelling no problem, would enter car providing im done 100 miles between now and then, am only free tues and wens, although if i know the date in advance i could try and book it off.

fab16v · 29-05-2003, 23:09

Sounds like I won't be the only Fabia in attendance which is good! :p

Would be good to put the Fabia up against the Octavia. I agree with Fabpreza that the main difference would be power on the straight. The corners would be pretty close I say. Especially seen as we are almost all running lowered Fabias now.

FabiaTDi · 29-05-2003, 23:13

Quote:

Originally posted by fab16v in this post
Especially seen as we are almost all running lowered Fabias now.

**TaviaRS** · 30-05-2003, 08:56

Yep, I reckon that the Fabias would do pretty well and it would only be if there were quite long straights that a normal Octavia would get away. Your corner speeds would probably be quite high, with less roll and a lower centre of gravity.

Beware the black RSs though

redbaron · 04-06-2003, 12:50

i would love to do a trackday in my vRS..

why do you guys not want other motors around... all the fun is killing them with stuff they feel is inferior...

i did a lancer day in my clk430 - put slicks and koni's on it and kicked *** - the red evo on the cover of this months banzai magazine belongs to the other director here - and he sucumbed to the "old mans automatic..":drive1:

**TaviaRS** · 04-06-2003, 13:08

Paul,

I think its primarily due to the number of novices on here (I don't mean that in a derogatory way). Personally, I love a mixed day. There is some perverse satisfaction in nailing a 911 in a Skoda

Usually I go out to play with the Subaru lot, but have also had a lot of fun with the TVR boys, Elise owners, 911 owners. I especially love it when its wet

I think that once people have "lost their cherry" so to speak that we could open it up, but, there is quite a performance gap between a 1.2 Fabia and a Subaru, TVR, 911, Caterham, Elise etc. Having said that, funniest thing I saw was on one of the winter-warmers at Donington in December, guy in a caterfield got fed up with the rain so used his TDI Caddy van as his track day car

**TaviaRS** · 04-06-2003, 20:55

OK, we've been talking about this and this is what we (OK some of it is just me) have come up with:

1. We hire somewhere like LLandow for the day. This comes to about £1,500 including marshalls. 20 cars at £75 per head. The circuit is quite small at about 1.5 miles long. The marshalls will control behaviour, which may be a good thing.

2. We hire somewhere like Bruntingthorpe, much bigger (it has a 1.5 mile long back straight

). We could run the short track (about 1.5 miles) morning and afternoon and open the long sttraight up for an hour or so for top speed runs. Cost is approx 3-3.5k. I believe we would be self regulating in terms of marshalls and behaviour. To get the same price we'd need approx 40 cars.

In my opinion the day should be formatted as follows, whichever way we go:

Briefing and splitting into 2 groups
Group 1, novices and lower powered cars, have 2 sighting laps, followed by a 20 -30 minute session
Group 2, experienced drivers, have 2 sighting laps, followed by a 20 -30 minute session
Run in 20 minute sessions until lunch
At lunch, if it Bruntingthorpe, top speed runs for those who want to. We can rustle up GPS units and performance metres
After lunch, open pit free for all

I think all novices should have their cars identified in some way, say a yellow dot on the rear of the car. Novices I would class as first timers or people who aren't comfortable with track driving.

Obviously with these sort of numbers we are going to have to bring in "outsiders". I think we should reserve 4 or 5 places for people we know and trust as drivers who know what our cars are capable of and have nothing to prove as they have been on trackdays with some of us before. For example Disco@impreziv may want to come along, but he owns a scoob (for the moment, we will convert him to the light side

) Ian Sadler is in the same position as is Gossythevaleter. We should also open up the invite to those on the seat board for the remaining places, as their cars are similar/identical to ours and having been on their trackdays, they are a similar group of people to ourselves.

Ideally I'd like to do this as a weekend , possibly in July or September.

What are your thoughts on this?

FabiaTDi · 04-06-2003, 21:17

Big yellow dot for me please!!

Sounds great and £75 seems pretty reasonable.

BTW I assume I will have to tell my insurance company about any track days. Anyone got any info on this?

**TaviaRS** · 04-06-2003, 21:23

Most won't cover you

Some policies have a set numberof days that you can do per year, provided you tell them before hand.

There are specialist companies which will cover you, but they ain't cheap and have ridiculously high excesses (eg £20 per £1,000 of cover and a £3000 excess).

I don't normally bother as I drive like a granny

(Well, I don't go beyond about 7/10, its a calculated risk)

FabiaTDi · 04-06-2003, 21:29

So could I find a specialist who would cover me for the one day?

I think I would take it fairly easy anyway on the track. i.e letting most people overtake!
As long as I have a bit of fun through the twisties I'll be happy!

Fabpreza · 04-06-2003, 21:33

I'm interested in either. Preference:-
1) Bruntinghorpe
2) Llandow

steve · 04-06-2003, 22:57

Sounds good to me. Does this mean i should save up for some new tyres Jon.
Oh..... and i promise to used both hands on the wheel this time

.

Steve
P.S could you supply a Porsche for us to 'play' with

Steve

KentStu · 05-06-2003, 09:27

.... Mine will have to be a bloody great RED warning triangle or something - yelllow dot on mine might make someone think I know what im doing

redbaron · 05-06-2003, 09:52

Quote:

Originally posted by TaviaRS in this post

What are your thoughts on this?

I think either venue is good - would go for open pit lane rather than sessions - i find with sessions you get a sudden influx of pent up agression hitting the track -which leads to over optomistic driving. The open pit seesm to be more relaxed - apart from the first 30mins in which i recommed the newbies wait a while and let the heros get it out of their system..

DaveU · 05-06-2003, 10:48

Jon please correct me if these are the wrong tracks!

LLandow looks a nice circuit although being in Cardiff it's 150 miles from me

Bruntingthorpe has a MASSIVE straight! That could be wicked fun

Also from a purely selfish point of view it's 100 miles away which is much better than Cardiff! It's my preference anyway

**TaviaRS** · 05-06-2003, 11:42

Dave,

Those are the correct tracks.
Bruntingthorpe is a laugh, thats why I suggested running the shorter circuit for the track day, and just opening up the long straight at lunchtime for top speed runs as on the 2 mile straight mine was accelerating past an indicated 155 3 up

Now that to me would be bad for the cars as there's a 90 right at the end of it. I reckon brake fade could be an issue for some

fab16v · 05-06-2003, 22:54

Both sound good to me.

If in July, then may it be the end of. Otherwise September should be cool. I'm on Hols from the 4th to the 18th of July! Don't wanna miss this!

29-05-2003, 23:09	#27
fab16v Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in Herts Posts: 3,105 Members Car: Hyundai Coupe V6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds like I won't be the only Fabia in attendance which is good! :p Would be good to put the Fabia up against the Octavia. I agree with Fabpreza that the main difference would be power on the straight. The corners would be pretty close I say. Especially seen as we are almost all running lowered Fabias now. __________________ Graeme Ex Skoda owner twice over.

30-05-2003, 08:56	#29
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Yep, I reckon that the Fabias would do pretty well and it would only be if there were quite long straights that a normal Octavia would get away. Your corner speeds would probably be quite high, with less roll and a lower centre of gravity. Beware the black RSs though __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

04-06-2003, 12:50	#30
redbaron Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,570 Members Car: Thanks: 15 Thanked 70 Times in 61 Posts	i would love to do a trackday in my vRS.. why do you guys not want other motors around... all the fun is killing them with stuff they feel is inferior... i did a lancer day in my clk430 - put slicks and koni's on it and kicked *** - the red evo on the cover of this months banzai magazine belongs to the other director here - and he sucumbed to the "old mans automatic..":drive1: __________________ ________________________________________ Some times I just feel like smiling.

04-06-2003, 13:08	#31
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Paul, I think its primarily due to the number of novices on here (I don't mean that in a derogatory way). Personally, I love a mixed day. There is some perverse satisfaction in nailing a 911 in a Skoda Usually I go out to play with the Subaru lot, but have also had a lot of fun with the TVR boys, Elise owners, 911 owners. I especially love it when its wet I think that once people have "lost their cherry" so to speak that we could open it up, but, there is quite a performance gap between a 1.2 Fabia and a Subaru, TVR, 911, Caterham, Elise etc. Having said that, funniest thing I saw was on one of the winter-warmers at Donington in December, guy in a caterfield got fed up with the rain so used his TDI Caddy van as his track day car __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

04-06-2003, 20:55	#32
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	OK, we've been talking about this and this is what we (OK some of it is just me) have come up with: 1. We hire somewhere like LLandow for the day. This comes to about £1,500 including marshalls. 20 cars at £75 per head. The circuit is quite small at about 1.5 miles long. The marshalls will control behaviour, which may be a good thing. 2. We hire somewhere like Bruntingthorpe, much bigger (it has a 1.5 mile long back straight ). We could run the short track (about 1.5 miles) morning and afternoon and open the long sttraight up for an hour or so for top speed runs. Cost is approx 3-3.5k. I believe we would be self regulating in terms of marshalls and behaviour. To get the same price we'd need approx 40 cars. In my opinion the day should be formatted as follows, whichever way we go: Briefing and splitting into 2 groups Group 1, novices and lower powered cars, have 2 sighting laps, followed by a 20 -30 minute session Group 2, experienced drivers, have 2 sighting laps, followed by a 20 -30 minute session Run in 20 minute sessions until lunch At lunch, if it Bruntingthorpe, top speed runs for those who want to. We can rustle up GPS units and performance metres After lunch, open pit free for all I think all novices should have their cars identified in some way, say a yellow dot on the rear of the car. Novices I would class as first timers or people who aren't comfortable with track driving. Obviously with these sort of numbers we are going to have to bring in "outsiders". I think we should reserve 4 or 5 places for people we know and trust as drivers who know what our cars are capable of and have nothing to prove as they have been on trackdays with some of us before. For example Disco@impreziv may want to come along, but he owns a scoob (for the moment, we will convert him to the light side ) Ian Sadler is in the same position as is Gossythevaleter. We should also open up the invite to those on the seat board for the remaining places, as their cars are similar/identical to ours and having been on their trackdays, they are a similar group of people to ourselves. Ideally I'd like to do this as a weekend , possibly in July or September. What are your thoughts on this? __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

29-05-2003, 22:59	#26
day tripper Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,717 Members Car: Suzuki Ignis Sport Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I am well up for this, id pay up to 100, travelling no problem, would enter car providing im done 100 miles between now and then, am only free tues and wens, although if i know the date in advance i could try and book it off.

04-06-2003, 21:17	#33
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,001 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Big yellow dot for me please!! Sounds great and £75 seems pretty reasonable. BTW I assume I will have to tell my insurance company about any track days. Anyone got any info on this? __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

04-06-2003, 21:23	#34
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Most won't cover you Some policies have a set numberof days that you can do per year, provided you tell them before hand. There are specialist companies which will cover you, but they ain't cheap and have ridiculously high excesses (eg £20 per £1,000 of cover and a £3000 excess). I don't normally bother as I drive like a granny (Well, I don't go beyond about 7/10, its a calculated risk) __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

04-06-2003, 21:29	#35
FabiaTDi VT5 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 2,001 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	So could I find a specialist who would cover me for the one day? I think I would take it fairly easy anyway on the track. i.e letting most people overtake! As long as I have a bit of fun through the twisties I'll be happy! __________________ Was: 2003 Allard Tuned Fabia vRS VT5 Turbo Conversion Now: 2008 Audi A3 Sportback TDI

04-06-2003, 21:33	#36
Fabpreza Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: SE Posts: 1,523 Members Car: 4x4 Jabba Turbo estate Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	I'm interested in either. Preference:- 1) Bruntinghorpe 2) Llandow

04-06-2003, 22:57	#37
steve Briskodian Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London Posts: 1,020 Members Car: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sounds good to me. Does this mean i should save up for some new tyres Jon. Oh..... and i promise to used both hands on the wheel this time . Steve P.S could you supply a Porsche for us to 'play' with Steve

05-06-2003, 09:27	#38
KentStu Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Canterbury, Kent Posts: 1,906 Members Car: Yellow Octy RS Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	.... Mine will have to be a bloody great RED warning triangle or something - yelllow dot on mine might make someone think I know what im doing __________________ Stu Yellow Octy RS & '58 Morris Minor Tourer Owner .......... not a hairdresser

05-06-2003, 10:48	#40
DaveU VIP Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South, then East a little bit. Posts: 2,455 Members Car: 2002 Octavia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Jon please correct me if these are the wrong tracks! LLandow looks a nice circuit although being in Cardiff it's 150 miles from me Bruntingthorpe has a MASSIVE straight! That could be wicked fun Also from a purely selfish point of view it's 100 miles away which is much better than Cardiff! It's my preference anyway __________________ Dave Dave's new runaround ^ The Beast: 2001-2007 (now re-homed). 5 1/2 years of frightening the living daylights out of other road users and ashaming various high end cars.

05-06-2003, 11:42	#41
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Dave, Those are the correct tracks. Bruntingthorpe is a laugh, thats why I suggested running the shorter circuit for the track day, and just opening up the long straight at lunchtime for top speed runs as on the 2 mile straight mine was accelerating past an indicated 155 3 up Now that to me would be bad for the cars as there's a 90 right at the end of it. I reckon brake fade could be an issue for some __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

05-06-2003, 22:54	#42
fab16v Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Somewhere in Herts Posts: 3,105 Members Car: Hyundai Coupe V6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Both sound good to me. If in July, then may it be the end of. Otherwise September should be cool. I'm on Hols from the 4th to the 18th of July! Don't wanna miss this! __________________ Graeme Ex Skoda owner twice over.

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