Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August

Makefish · 22-08-2007, 22:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonutopia

I'm there from 9 Steve - I believe it kicks off around 9.30.

I might roll up a little later, still have to keep her sweet

CORDY_SXMAN · 23-08-2007, 19:25

23.08.07

1. Rob_fr - Rob - Seat Leon FR 1.9 TDI
2. Customchris - Chris - Ibiza cupra 1.8T
3. Mattcogg - Matt - mk4 ibiza 130 TDI
4. ibizacupra - Ian - Ibiza GTI
5. rich - mk4 ibiza cupra
6. dave_ph - el A4 la smoke-a-lot
7. VRSteve - Steve - VR6 - ClubGTI
8. mattio - ClubGTI
9. Maddy - madwoman - Ibiza Cupra
10. Jase (devonutopia) briskoda - Fabia vrs
11. Will - tigger_1979 - Fabia vrs
12. leon20vt-1.8T Leon
13. tattoo26
14.
15. TONK (clubgti) car ??
16. maddy brother - renault 5 turbo
17. maddys mate - golf
18. rich- R1ch85-- mk4 cupra
19.Steve (Makefish)
20.Rich (dave taylors mate)
21. chris- leoncp

Maybe's

speedyvrs- Dave
barney
Alan
dave - trucido
devonmikeyboy (scn)
steve - briskoda
pat [cuprabird]

CORDY_SXMAN · 26-08-2007, 13:23

pics (lots of them!) here: TSR RR Day - Results, Pics and Chat - VAGOwners.co.uk

devonutopia · 26-08-2007, 13:28

My car did 224 bhp, but it was smoking like a train due to getting about a 20mph wind from the fan, when in reality it needed a 100mph wind. No oxygen = overfuelling = lots of smoke and a lot less power. Quite disappointed because I know the car can do better with the right amount of air being provided. Plus if Will got 118bhp out of a standard pd130, I can add 10% top mine as well.

Still?! STEVE! 265 odd bhp!?

Tigger_1979 · 26-08-2007, 14:03

All the Turbo Engines were well down and we are blaming it on the heat.
The NA engines all got there quoted figures so I think the fan could of been fine.

Also Jason you really need to cut down on the cigarettes and Smoking in someone's workplace can get you a big fine nowadays

devonutopia · 26-08-2007, 14:06

A pic pinched from the day. It really doesn't do this once the turbo cuts in (see the video link in my sig - that was with a proper fan)

WW_VRS · 26-08-2007, 14:09

A NA engine wont use anywhere near as much air though - if the fan cant supply it fast enough, air density would have been too low.

Glider · 26-08-2007, 14:51

If they don't have enough fans I wouldn't run my car.

devonutopia · 26-08-2007, 14:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glider

If they don't have enough fans I wouldn't run my car.

I was basically first on, so didn't realise until it was too late. Have learnt a lesson for all future dyno runs. No decent fan = no run.

Does your car suffer similar symptoms if not provided with enough air? (used in past tense if need be

)

Fezboy · 26-08-2007, 15:38

Yes those RR results are low

That's the problem though you can gain or lose 20 BHP on each one you use!

I just don't think you get a good air flow (probably worse if you have a FMIC fitted)

Glider · 26-08-2007, 20:19

Yes the great RR debate,
More fans = more BHP in my experience, up our way Star P have 3 huge fans, but a nearby tuner has one fan and everyody slags one or the other off for too high or too low readings on the Dyno depending on their prefered tuner.
My car hit 90 deg C inlet temps on the single fan rollers but only 39 deg C on Stars. Even with the FMIC.

devonutopia · 26-08-2007, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glider

My car hit 90 deg C inlet temps on the single fan rollers but only 39 deg C on Stars. Even with the FMIC.

I didn't think of logging inlet temps, but I watched my oil and water temps ROCKET after the run. On a normal run (even a quick one) they rarely go above 80, usually hovering around 76/77. I saw them touch nearly 90 on saturday.... I went straight out after the run to a) remove the ABS light, etc and b) cool the bloody thing down with a gentle run up and down the A38...

smstext · 26-08-2007, 23:22

I went straight to top of page 3 and saw all that smoke and thought "that must be Jasons :lol"

Glider · 26-08-2007, 23:37

Sounds like they were taking air from inside the building Jason, wouldn't go there again. Look for a place with huge fans drawing air from outside. Remember your cars flat tack in 4th at 100mph how much air would be rushing by on the road.

smstext · 26-08-2007, 23:45

Before or after Jase? it looks a bit foggy there

Just looked at all the results, guess if i came i would have been closer to the top than the bottom :lol

devonutopia · 27-08-2007, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glider

Sounds like they were taking air from inside the building Jason, wouldn't go there again. Look for a place with huge fans drawing air from outside. Remember your cars flat tack in 4th at 100mph how much air would be rushing by on the road.

It was from inside, but even JKMs fan took air from inside, but it was able to blast it out at a really good speed. I think perhaps the speed is more imperative than the source, but I reckon as you say, both would be ideal.

Glider · 27-08-2007, 09:34

Nice looking Dyno though

Makefish · 27-08-2007, 15:28

Many thanks for the welcome we got, great to see a varied mix of cars

Apologies for having to shove off at lunchtime although we were taking a break from our holiday to join in the fun and were under strict instructions from our respective SWMBO's to be back on time!

gmaster · 28-08-2007, 16:56

Looked like a good day, gutted i missed it only 20mins up the road!!!

23-08-2007, 19:25	#27
CORDY_SXMAN Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SOUTH WEST, UK Posts: 149 Members Car: SEAT CORDOBA SX 2.0 16V Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August 23.08.07 1. Rob_fr - Rob - Seat Leon FR 1.9 TDI 2. Customchris - Chris - Ibiza cupra 1.8T 3. Mattcogg - Matt - mk4 ibiza 130 TDI 4. ibizacupra - Ian - Ibiza GTI 5. rich - mk4 ibiza cupra 6. dave_ph - el A4 la smoke-a-lot 7. VRSteve - Steve - VR6 - ClubGTI 8. mattio - ClubGTI 9. Maddy - madwoman - Ibiza Cupra 10. Jase (devonutopia) briskoda - Fabia vrs 11. Will - tigger_1979 - Fabia vrs 12. leon20vt-1.8T Leon 13. tattoo26 14. 15. TONK (clubgti) car ?? 16. maddy brother - renault 5 turbo 17. maddys mate - golf 18. rich- R1ch85-- mk4 cupra 19.Steve (Makefish) 20.Rich (dave taylors mate) 21. chris- leoncp Maybe's speedyvrs- Dave barney Alan dave - trucido devonmikeyboy (scn) steve - briskoda pat [cuprabird] __________________ Car: SEAT Cordoba SX 2.0 16v VagOwners.co.uk

26-08-2007, 13:23	#28
CORDY_SXMAN Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SOUTH WEST, UK Posts: 149 Members Car: SEAT CORDOBA SX 2.0 16V Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August pics (lots of them!) here: TSR RR Day - Results, Pics and Chat - VAGOwners.co.uk __________________ Car: SEAT Cordoba SX 2.0 16v VagOwners.co.uk

26-08-2007, 13:28	#29
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,103 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 353 Times in 296 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August My car did 224 bhp, but it was smoking like a train due to getting about a 20mph wind from the fan, when in reality it needed a 100mph wind. No oxygen = overfuelling = lots of smoke and a lot less power. Quite disappointed because I know the car can do better with the right amount of air being provided. Plus if Will got 118bhp out of a standard pd130, I can add 10% top mine as well. Still?! STEVE! 265 odd bhp!? __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

26-08-2007, 14:03	#30
Tigger_1979 Briskodian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yate, Bristol, South West Posts: 1,847 Members Car: Standard Yellow Fabia vRS Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August All the Turbo Engines were well down and we are blaming it on the heat. The NA engines all got there quoted figures so I think the fan could of been fine. Also Jason you really need to cut down on the cigarettes and Smoking in someone's workplace can get you a big fine nowadays __________________ WSM Sat 1st November 2008

26-08-2007, 14:06	#31
devonutopia Mongreller Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Exeter / Devon Posts: 30,103 Members Car: Skoda Fabia Mongrel Images: 5 Thanks: 75 Thanked 353 Times in 296 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August A pic pinched from the day. It really doesn't do this once the turbo cuts in (see the video link in my sig - that was with a proper fan) __________________ Jason - Only a Skoda. Custom Fabia Bonnet Lifter Kits - £45! Click Me. Cheesy bonnet lifter video to "raise me up" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnGECEi5Oc See the mongrel's 260bhp Dyno Video!

26-08-2007, 14:09	#32
WW_VRS Escorted Estate Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oxfordshire/Berkshire Posts: 9,877 Members Car: Ford Escort 1.6LX + Fab Estate Thanks: 46 Thanked 86 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August A NA engine wont use anywhere near as much air though - if the fan cant supply it fast enough, air density would have been too low. __________________ WW --->> Project Journal (pic links in first post there) Lummox'/Ross thread on Unit18 Automotive progress on my car: here

26-08-2007, 14:51	#33
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August If they don't have enough fans I wouldn't run my car.

26-08-2007, 15:38	#35
Fezboy Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Watford Posts: 2,490 Members Car: Mondeo 2.2TDCI Thanks: 21 Thanked 122 Times in 116 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Yes those RR results are low That's the problem though you can gain or lose 20 BHP on each one you use! I just don't think you get a good air flow (probably worse if you have a FMIC fitted) __________________ Octavia VRs *SOLD* The futures somkey! The futures diesel

26-08-2007, 20:19	#36
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Yes the great RR debate, More fans = more BHP in my experience, up our way Star P have 3 huge fans, but a nearby tuner has one fan and everyody slags one or the other off for too high or too low readings on the Dyno depending on their prefered tuner. My car hit 90 deg C inlet temps on the single fan rollers but only 39 deg C on Stars. Even with the FMIC.

26-08-2007, 23:22	#38
smstext 2.0 FSI Sport. Join Date: May 2007 Location: oxon Posts: 9,713 Members Car: Octavia Mk2 FSI Sport Thanks: 11 Thanked 307 Times in 274 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August I went straight to top of page 3 and saw all that smoke and thought "that must be Jasons :lol" __________________ Oxon Meet Feeler 2009 please add your input, click here

26-08-2007, 23:37	#39
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Sounds like they were taking air from inside the building Jason, wouldn't go there again. Look for a place with huge fans drawing air from outside. Remember your cars flat tack in 4th at 100mph how much air would be rushing by on the road.

26-08-2007, 23:45	#40
smstext 2.0 FSI Sport. Join Date: May 2007 Location: oxon Posts: 9,713 Members Car: Octavia Mk2 FSI Sport Thanks: 11 Thanked 307 Times in 274 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Before or after Jase? it looks a bit foggy there Just looked at all the results, guess if i came i would have been closer to the top than the bottom :lol __________________ Oxon Meet Feeler 2009 please add your input, click here

27-08-2007, 09:34	#42
Glider Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 2,432 Members Car: Thanks: 5 Thanked 50 Times in 31 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Nice looking Dyno though

27-08-2007, 15:28	#43
Makefish Ex-Moddy Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hampshire Posts: 8,277 Members Car: Golf PD105 Thanks: 187 Thanked 248 Times in 184 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Many thanks for the welcome we got, great to see a varied mix of cars Apologies for having to shove off at lunchtime although we were taking a break from our holiday to join in the fun and were under strict instructions from our respective SWMBO's to be back on time! __________________ Superchips Bluefin only £390 @ JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/bluefinxmas2008.htm

28-08-2007, 16:56	#44
gmaster Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Devon Posts: 566 Members Car: Mk1 black octavia vrs Thanks: 3 Thanked 26 Times in 25 Posts	Re: Vagowners RR Day at TSR 25 August Looked like a good day, gutted i missed it only 20mins up the road!!! __________________ Black octy mk1 VRS... with some mods.

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