Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill

sworrall · 31-07-2007, 13:54

has anyone got any thoughts of using this to prime the chrome grill on a mkii ocatavia after its had a light sanding with wet n dry?

the link to it is below and its what has been recommended by the technical chaps at painst4u.com. Ive had a go of stripping the chrome with some over cleaner which didnt really work plus i havent got a container big enough to leave the grill in bleach which was suggested on another thread.

http://www.paints4u.com/ProductDetai...?productID=296

**VRStu** · 31-07-2007, 14:03

My Fabia one was just painted over after sanding which seemed ok. I happen to know there is a black one being painted this week and I'm sure the owner will make comment if he sees this.

sworrall · 31-07-2007, 14:05

thanks stu, did you get many chip/peel free miles out of it before you changed to the octy

**VRStu** · 31-07-2007, 14:42

Yeah seemed ok Stu.

Makefish · 31-07-2007, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

I happen to know there is a black one being painted this week and I'm sure the owner will make comment if he sees this.

That'd be me then

, but I got a 'man' to do mine and I have know idea what process he uses but I'll ask when I collect it later this week.

Edit: Just rememberd him saying something about sanding it down and using a primer but what type I hav'nt got a clue

Quinten · 31-07-2007, 15:17

I sanded mine down and then painted it first with primer, then with black. Worked fine.

**VRStu** · 31-07-2007, 15:29

I probably didn't make my first post that clear. I was primed with normal body painting primer, but not acid etched AFAIK.

sworrall · 31-07-2007, 15:33

its not a great deal dearer than the normal stuff so i may just plump for a tin and try it out.

Basil · 31-07-2007, 16:40

my skoda dealer was told to sand it befor epainting it - he BS'd me that he did and now I have nice chromed stonechips... Will take it off again and get him to repaint it....

Bigw2069 · 31-07-2007, 16:57

I have heard that if you leave the chromed plastic in bleach for a couple of days the chrome flakes off and leaves the plastic, not tried it personally though so disclaimer applies

Basil · 31-07-2007, 17:16

Sandblasting apparently works a treat - if you have a compressor a basic sandblasting nozzle isnt very expensive....

sworrall · 31-07-2007, 20:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigw2069

I have heard that if you leave the chromed plastic in bleach for a couple of days the chrome flakes off and leaves the plastic, not tried it personally though so disclaimer applies

id seen that one too but i dont have a container big enough to put in the grill plus a shed load of bleach!

sworrall · 31-07-2007, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basil

Sandblasting apparently works a treat - if you have a compressor a basic sandblasting nozzle isnt very expensive....

ill have a look in the yellow pages tomorrow to see if there are any sandblasters near me. havent got a compressor im afraid

beedie · 02-08-2007, 20:49

mine was acid etch primed before it was sprayed.
my first attempt was to sand thoroughly , prime (normal grey stuff) then spray the colour. this peeled off with the first sight of a pressure washer.
so i gave it to my body shop mate and he did it properly, year on an no problems
Scott

sworrall · 02-08-2007, 21:29

thanks beedie. ive actually sandblasted it now but its not something id advise after doing it. the back of the grill comes off at the first sign of the grit down to the bare plastic. great i thought, this should be a doddle. a long time later and the front was finally done but i think i may have taken a few mm off the plastic in the attempt to get the chrome off. The back seems to be one coat but the front seems to be several which doesnt come off easy with the blaster. it just seems to blister which you then have to peel off which is a feckin nightmare. ho hum, you live and learn. now its down to bare plastic im going to see if any of the bodyshops in the area can spray it for me or I may be brave and get some paint, laquere and plastic primer from paints4u.com.

oh, the other thing is that after the thick chrome is off the part loses some of it stiffness so is a bit more wobbly now. hopefully when the black grill is attached it will be stiff enough and ok.

pics hopefully to follow once its sprayed

skudmissile · 03-08-2007, 11:45

The method i used was, Put in 5l of bleech for 3 days till all chrome goes black.

then with the sand blaster on its lowest setting give the grill a once over. The chrome just blisters as the sand hits and by leaving it in bleech its really soft so just peals off.

sworrall · 09-08-2007, 12:13

finally got all the chrome off (wish id spken to skudmissile before I started!)

the grill has gone in to be sprayed yesterday in a bodyshop and should be back end of the week.

andy2407 · 09-08-2007, 12:28

Look forward to seeing some pics

sworrall · 09-08-2007, 12:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by andy2407

Look forward to seeing some pics

i thought you might be as a fellow Islander!

andy2407 · 09-08-2007, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by sworrall

i thought you might be as a fellow Islander!

Its a pretty exclusive club on here!

sworrall · 14-08-2007, 00:02

got mine done at last, thread is here

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/new-o...een-l-k/86866/

ethos · 14-08-2007, 10:25

That looks loads better.

I've been quoted £50 to get it done at a bodyshop place...

Tempted to do it myself, but with the magic black paint I think It'd look **** done by a spray novice!

sworrall · 14-08-2007, 10:48

thats about the same as mine cost. id get it done at the shop as the paint and primers etc will cost over £30 if you dont have any. add your time onto that and the £50 is worth it. Ive got a slight colour mismatch with mine so make sure you ask them to coour match the paint to your car. not that it may make much difference with magic black

ethos · 14-08-2007, 11:38

Yea, I suppose in a way it'll be fairly easy to match. Even if it's slightly off it should still ok.

Would I have to inform my insurance company about it? Surely not?!

ethos · 16-09-2007, 17:54

Oh, visited a bodyshop on Friday...

Guess how much he quoted just to spray the grill?

......£100!!!!!!

Couldn't believe it, he even asked if I wanted to get the chrome off as it could be extra. Plus he wouldn't be liable if it chips/peels.

31-07-2007, 13:54	#1
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill has anyone got any thoughts of using this to prime the chrome grill on a mkii ocatavia after its had a light sanding with wet n dry? the link to it is below and its what has been recommended by the technical chaps at painst4u.com. Ive had a go of stripping the chrome with some over cleaner which didnt really work plus i havent got a container big enough to leave the grill in bleach which was suggested on another thread. http://www.paints4u.com/ProductDetai...?productID=296 __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

31-07-2007, 14:03	#2
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,838 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 998 Times in 894 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill My Fabia one was just painted over after sanding which seemed ok. I happen to know there is a black one being painted this week and I'm sure the owner will make comment if he sees this. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-07-2007, 14:05	#3
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill thanks stu, did you get many chip/peel free miles out of it before you changed to the octy __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

31-07-2007, 14:42	#4
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,838 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 998 Times in 894 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill Yeah seemed ok Stu. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-07-2007, 15:17	#6
Quinten Crossdresser Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: fast lane Posts: 10,000 Members Car: Citroen C-Crosser 2.2HDI Thanks: 25 Thanked 40 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill I sanded mine down and then painted it first with primer, then with black. Worked fine. __________________ Awooga!!!

31-07-2007, 15:29	#7
VRStu Txt Spk Police Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,838 Members Car: Audi S3 Thanks: 145 Thanked 998 Times in 894 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill I probably didn't make my first post that clear. I was primed with normal body painting primer, but not acid etched AFAIK. __________________ Stu Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2008 Audi S3 - Ibis White, Black Optics Pack, Privacy Glass, Auto Bi Xenon Headlights, Rain Sensing Wipers, Bose Sound System, Ipod Prep, GSM Phone Prep, Flat Bottom Multi Function Steering Wheel, Electric Folding Mirrors, Acoustic Parking, Cruise Control, Interior Light Pack, Non Smokers Pack. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - A Patio

31-07-2007, 15:33	#8
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill its not a great deal dearer than the normal stuff so i may just plump for a tin and try it out. __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

31-07-2007, 16:40	#9
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,253 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 198 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill my skoda dealer was told to sand it befor epainting it - he BS'd me that he did and now I have nice chromed stonechips... Will take it off again and get him to repaint it.... __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

31-07-2007, 16:57	#10
Bigw2069 Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Rosyth,Scotland Posts: 5,658 Members Car: Noddy Car Thanks: 211 Thanked 228 Times in 189 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill I have heard that if you leave the chromed plastic in bleach for a couple of days the chrome flakes off and leaves the plastic, not tried it personally though so disclaimer applies __________________

31-07-2007, 17:16	#11
Basil Hardcore Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bahrain Posts: 3,253 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 198 Thanked 194 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill Sandblasting apparently works a treat - if you have a compressor a basic sandblasting nozzle isnt very expensive.... __________________ Fab vRS - Black Magic - PD160 intake - Forge FMIC - colour coded front grille -SLC Splitter - K&N Airfilter -SEAT Strutbrace - Jabba ARB - IC Waterspray (need to wire it in!) - 312mm TT brakes - Eibach Springs - Skoda Reversing sensors - Devonutopia Tuning (tm) Custom Exhaust (2 1/4" straight pipe) - Short shifter mod- 5 brake light mod - Helix Steel SMF + Organic Clutch + pressure plate - Peloquin LSD - TD stage 2 Hybrid - Washbrook remapped ECU - Uprated injectors - Cupra bushes -Poly-filled dogbone - Allard racepipe - Pirelli Dragons - Forge Rear Strutbrace - DIY SS upper boostpipe delete -Koni FSD's - elephant pipe CCV mod

02-08-2007, 20:49	#14
beedie Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 428 Members Car: Fabia VRS '04 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill mine was acid etch primed before it was sprayed. my first attempt was to sand thoroughly , prime (normal grey stuff) then spray the colour. this peeled off with the first sight of a pressure washer. so i gave it to my body shop mate and he did it properly, year on an no problems Scott __________________ Fabia VRS '04, 170bhp, 280lbf-ft, Star Performanced, PD160 Intake, K&N Filter, SEAT Sport Strut Brace, Jabba ARB, 18"Team Dynamics Pro Race 2's with Toyo T1R's 215/35 R18, 312mm Discs and Calipers, KW Varient 1 Coilovers, Forge FMIC, Custom Decals, Helix Organic Clutch with Single Mass Flywheel, JVC HU, RE SUB, ALPINE AMP WANTED:Exhaust, Turbo, Custom Remap Next Step: Sound Deadening and Front Comps

02-08-2007, 21:29	#15
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill thanks beedie. ive actually sandblasted it now but its not something id advise after doing it. the back of the grill comes off at the first sign of the grit down to the bare plastic. great i thought, this should be a doddle. a long time later and the front was finally done but i think i may have taken a few mm off the plastic in the attempt to get the chrome off. The back seems to be one coat but the front seems to be several which doesnt come off easy with the blaster. it just seems to blister which you then have to peel off which is a feckin nightmare. ho hum, you live and learn. now its down to bare plastic im going to see if any of the bodyshops in the area can spray it for me or I may be brave and get some paint, laquere and plastic primer from paints4u.com. oh, the other thing is that after the thick chrome is off the part loses some of it stiffness so is a bit more wobbly now. hopefully when the black grill is attached it will be stiff enough and ok. pics hopefully to follow once its sprayed __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

03-08-2007, 11:45	#16
skudmissile Moving Stables Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,190 Members Car: Thanks: 426 Thanked 182 Times in 164 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill The method i used was, Put in 5l of bleech for 3 days till all chrome goes black. then with the sand blaster on its lowest setting give the grill a once over. The chrome just blisters as the sand hits and by leaving it in bleech its really soft so just peals off. __________________ Run out of CASH

09-08-2007, 12:13	#17
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill finally got all the chrome off (wish id spken to skudmissile before I started!) the grill has gone in to be sprayed yesterday in a bodyshop and should be back end of the week. __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

09-08-2007, 12:28	#18
andy2407 Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Upper Ramsbottom Posts: 5,591 Members Car: Yellow Fabia vRS Thanks: 59 Thanked 222 Times in 180 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill Look forward to seeing some pics __________________ The future's bright The future's mellow Now with a little zest of Washbrook added

14-08-2007, 00:02	#21
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill got mine done at last, thread is here http://www.briskoda.net/forums/new-o...een-l-k/86866/ __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

14-08-2007, 10:25	#22
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186 Members Car: Thanks: 61 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill That looks loads better. I've been quoted £50 to get it done at a bodyshop place... Tempted to do it myself, but with the magic black paint I think It'd look **** done by a spray novice!

14-08-2007, 10:48	#23
sworrall Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: North Wales Posts: 721 Members Car: Octavia II VRS Estate CR2.0tdi in Race Blue Thanks: 122 Thanked 39 Times in 35 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill thats about the same as mine cost. id get it done at the shop as the paint and primers etc will cost over £30 if you dont have any. add your time onto that and the £50 is worth it. Ive got a slight colour mismatch with mine so make sure you ask them to coour match the paint to your car. not that it may make much difference with magic black __________________ 2008 OctyII VRS Estate CR 2.0Tdi Race Blue - 18" Zeniths - Sunset Glass - Maxidot - Dual Zone - Cruise - Jumbo Box/Rear Elec - Rear park - Active headrests - Curtain Airbags - MFD2 & OEM Bluetooth my flickr Photos

14-08-2007, 11:38	#24
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186 Members Car: Thanks: 61 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill Yea, I suppose in a way it'll be fairly easy to match. Even if it's slightly off it should still ok. Would I have to inform my insurance company about it? Surely not?!

16-09-2007, 17:54	#25
ethos Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,186 Members Car: Thanks: 61 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Acid #8 1k Etch Primer for chrome grill Oh, visited a bodyshop on Friday... Guess how much he quoted just to spray the grill? ......£100!!!!!! Couldn't believe it, he even asked if I wanted to get the chrome off as it could be extra. Plus he wouldn't be liable if it chips/peels.