Alloys for octy?

150HP&counting · 03-05-2005, 12:22

Will these alloys fit ok on a july 2001 reg Octy L&K........ (5x100 et40?)

http://www.alloywheels.com/product.a...=any&PT_ID=all

Thanks,

Lee

Stuart_J · 03-05-2005, 13:48

Am I reading that correctly, price is each !!

try www.affinitywheels.co.uk, If you talk to them ask for Paul, he did me a stonking deal on a set of wheels before the cannonball last year. Also double check which tyres they include in trhe package as some are 2budget" tyres to keep the deal looking good

***DGW*** · 03-05-2005, 14:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart_J

Am I reading that correctly, price is each !!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Website Advertisment

4 * Brand New 7x17" Dare X1 Silver Alloy Wheels. Fitted with Brand New Premium Performance 205/40/17 Tyres. Fitment available 5x100 et40, 5x108 et40. Includes fittings.

I'm confused as to whether it is one wheel plus tyre or one set of 4 wheels plus tyres for £420.00.

150HP&counting · 03-05-2005, 14:59

(My understanding is 4 alloys with 205/40 tyres) ahh now i get ya the X1 is the alloy type
From site....

4 * Brand New 7x17" Dare X1 Silver Alloy Wheels. Fitted with Brand New Premium Performance 205/40/17 Tyres. Fitment available 5x100 et40, 5x108 et40. Includes fittings. (Not suitable for Fiat/Alfa 4*98 / 5*98 fitments, as will not take special bolt).

EddyH · 03-05-2005, 15:01

The PCD is correct but not sure about the offset.

The tyre's are completely the wrong size. With 17's you would need 225/45/17 tyres.

AndyVRS · 03-05-2005, 17:22

The tyre size shouldn't matter as 205 is the width, which depends on the width of the alloy, and 40 is the tyre height which is smaller than 45 so will fit ok

**TaviaRS** · 03-05-2005, 17:41

Offset is wrong for a 7 IIRC, you need ET38 max.

EddyH · 03-05-2005, 18:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyVRS

The tyre size shouldn't matter as 205 is the width, which depends on the width of the alloy, and 40 is the tyre height which is smaller than 45 so will fit ok

They'll physically fit but the speedo will be way out, the arch gap will be massive and ride will be poor.

Lummox · 03-05-2005, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyH

They'll physically fit but the speedo will be way out, the arch gap will be massive and ride will be poor.

Correct.

The different in side wall height of a 205/40 and a 225/45.

205/40 17 has a profile of....82mm

225/45 17 has a profile of....101.25mm

A considerable difference of..19.25mm in diameter.

EddyH · 03-05-2005, 21:01

Yeah, I know from experience as I bought a set of second hand wheels with that size tyre back when I had the Golf and it was terrible, I had to change the tyres ASAP due to the ride quality and ground clearance more than anything.

150HP&counting · 04-05-2005, 08:11

Dont really get this as as far as am aware the standard 17's on the vrs come with 205/50, which is only a 10% difference in tyre side wall depth or 20.5mm. I know maybe the ride quality will suffer, but surely that is always the case when you go with bigger alloys and low profile tyres????

By the way i currently have 16's with 205/55 on my L&K

150HP&counting · 04-05-2005, 08:24

Just done some quick claculations on this.....

My current 16's : wheel= 40.64cm(16*2.54)
Tyres= 22.55cm (205/55 = 112.75mm * 2 for either side of alloy wheel)
TOTAL DIAMETRE= 63.19cm
THe 17's: wheel= 43.18cm (17*2.54)
Tryes= 16.4cm (205/40 = 82mm * 2 for either side of alloy wheel)
TOTAL DIAMETRE= 59.58cm

DIFFERENCE = 3.56cm total diametre - does that cause a problem???

Think those figures are right lol

EddyH · 04-05-2005, 09:09

Standard OCTAVIA vRS comes with 225/45/17

And yes 3.56cm will make a BIG difference.

using 205/40/17 will give a 5.7% speedo difference, using 225/45/17 is only 0.4% difference.

The ride will hardly suffer at all in my experience with the correct tyre size on 17's.

Even if you aren't bothered about the ride quality it's gonna make the wheels look small in the arches due to change the proportions of the wheel/tyre within the arch.

**TaviaRS** · 04-05-2005, 09:18

Erm, yes it does make a difference, think circumference

FYI:

205/55/16
Sidewall 112.8mm
Radius 316.0mm
Diametre 631.9mm
Circumference 1985.2mm
Revs per mile 811

205/40/17
S 82mm
R 297.9mm
D 595.8mm
C 1871.8mm
RPM 860

Goes round a few more times per mile doesn't it

Good for acceleration, ****e for top speed &, as Eddy says, will not be so comfy but will turn in better.

**TaviaRS** · 04-05-2005, 09:19

Eddy, standard Octy RS comes with 205/50 17

EddyH · 04-05-2005, 10:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaviaRS

Eddy, standard Octy RS comes with 205/50 17

Didn't know that, thought it was the same as the rest of the Mk4 platform VAG range. So I suppose that size is also an option then.

150HP&counting · 04-05-2005, 10:10

Thanks for the info guys - as always!!!!

***ColinD*** · 04-05-2005, 10:40

-6.44% difference, way outside the 3% industry recomendation.

Speedometer Results MPH
Original Target
30 28.07
40 37.42
50 46.78
60 56.14
70 65.49

But I'm sure they could change the tyre size for you...225/45's are the max on a 7" rim, even thats pushing it, but they are cheaper normally than the 205/50.

The 205/50 will feel more comfortable.

Shame the octy rims are not 8" as then we could share the audi default size of 235/45's.

IIRC the theory of tyres is that the contact area of the 205/50 and 225/45 is almost the same, just a different shape.

150HP&counting · 05-05-2005, 15:37

would 215/45 be ok? :

17" Tyre Upgrade 2154517AVONZZ3UP £ 51.06 £ 60.00 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Upgrade Premium Performance to High Performance Avon ZZ3 215/45/ZR17 Tyres.

**TaviaRS** · 05-05-2005, 15:44

215/45 is OK(ish)

***ColinD*** · 05-05-2005, 15:48

205/50 to 215/45
Circumference Difference: -1.45 in -36.13 mm Leaving a -1.81 % difference.

Speedometer Results MPH
Original Tyres Target Tyres
30 29.46
40 39.28
50 49.1
60 58.92
70 68.74

03-05-2005, 12:22	#1
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Alloys for octy? Will these alloys fit ok on a july 2001 reg Octy L&K........ (5x100 et40?) http://www.alloywheels.com/product.a...=any&PT_ID=all Thanks, Lee __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (*Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes

03-05-2005, 13:48	#2
Stuart_J Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Winchester Posts: 5,708 Members Car: Nissan 350Z Twin Turbo Also Octavia 1.9 TDI L&K & Superb td 140 Thanks: 39 Thanked 85 Times in 78 Posts	Am I reading that correctly, price is each !! try www.affinitywheels.co.uk, If you talk to them ask for Paul, he did me a stonking deal on a set of wheels before the cannonball last year. Also double check which tyres they include in trhe package as some are 2budget" tyres to keep the deal looking good __________________ Speed is an addiction for which thankfully there is no cure

03-05-2005, 14:59	#4
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	(My understanding is 4 alloys with 205/40 tyres) ahh now i get ya the X1 is the alloy type From site.... 4 * Brand New 7x17" Dare X1 Silver Alloy Wheels. Fitted with Brand New Premium Performance 205/40/17 Tyres. Fitment available 5x100 et40, 5x108 et40. Includes fittings. (Not suitable for Fiat/Alfa 498 / 598 fitments, as will not take special bolt). __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes Last edited by 150HP&counting; 03-05-2005 at 15:01.*

03-05-2005, 15:01	#5
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	The PCD is correct but not sure about the offset. The tyre's are completely the wrong size. With 17's you would need 225/45/17 tyres. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

03-05-2005, 17:41	#7
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Offset is wrong for a 7 IIRC, you need ET38 max. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

03-05-2005, 17:22	#6
AndyVRS Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 157 Members Car: Fabia Vrs Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	The tyre size shouldn't matter as 205 is the width, which depends on the width of the alloy, and 40 is the tyre height which is smaller than 45 so will fit ok

03-05-2005, 21:01	#10
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	Yeah, I know from experience as I bought a set of second hand wheels with that size tyre back when I had the Golf and it was terrible, I had to change the tyres ASAP due to the ride quality and ground clearance more than anything. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

04-05-2005, 08:11	#11
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Dont really get this as as far as am aware the standard 17's on the vrs come with 205/50, which is only a 10% difference in tyre side wall depth or 20.5mm. I know maybe the ride quality will suffer, but surely that is always the case when you go with bigger alloys and low profile tyres???? By the way i currently have 16's with 205/55 on my L&K __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes Last edited by 150HP&counting; 04-05-2005 at 08:13. Reason: My wheel sizes*

04-05-2005, 08:24	#12
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Just done some quick claculations on this..... My current 16's : wheel= 40.64cm(162.54) Tyres= 22.55cm (205/55 = 112.75mm 2 for either side of alloy wheel) TOTAL DIAMETRE= 63.19cm THe 17's: wheel= 43.18cm (172.54) Tryes= 16.4cm (205/40 = 82mm 2 for either side of alloy wheel) TOTAL DIAMETRE= 59.58cm DIFFERENCE = 3.56cm total diametre - does that cause a problem??? Think those figures are right lol __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (*Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes

04-05-2005, 09:09	#13
EddyH Briskodian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 4,908 Members Car: Audi S8 Thanks: 41 Thanked 27 Times in 27 Posts	Standard OCTAVIA vRS comes with 225/45/17 And yes 3.56cm will make a BIG difference. using 205/40/17 will give a 5.7% speedo difference, using 225/45/17 is only 0.4% difference. The ride will hardly suffer at all in my experience with the correct tyre size on 17's. Even if you aren't bothered about the ride quality it's gonna make the wheels look small in the arches due to change the proportions of the wheel/tyre within the arch. __________________ EddyH Audi A6 Avant 2.7 TDI Audi A3 2.0 TDI Sport

04-05-2005, 09:18	#14
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Erm, yes it does make a difference, think circumference FYI: 205/55/16 Sidewall 112.8mm Radius 316.0mm Diametre 631.9mm Circumference 1985.2mm Revs per mile 811 205/40/17 S 82mm R 297.9mm D 595.8mm C 1871.8mm RPM 860 Goes round a few more times per mile doesn't it Good for acceleration, **e for top speed &, as Eddy says, will not be so comfy but will turn in better. __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays**

04-05-2005, 09:19	#15
TaviaRS Dinosaur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North of the Watford Gap Posts: 14,942 Members Car: Merc E class & SLK Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 38 Posts	Eddy, standard Octy RS comes with 205/50 17 __________________ A jolly sensible Mercedes E class saloon in a rather fetching bluey grey colour. No it isn't fast, no it isn't modded, and yes, it will still eat your Fabia for breakfast. Official mobile chicane for Briskoda trackdays

04-05-2005, 10:10	#17
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks for the info guys - as always!!!! __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (*Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes

04-05-2005, 10:40	#18
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,297 Members Car: Roomster Scout Images: 3 Thanks: 26 Thanked 171 Times in 80 Posts	-6.44% difference, way outside the 3% industry recomendation. Speedometer Results MPH Original Target 30 28.07 40 37.42 50 46.78 60 56.14 70 65.49 But I'm sure they could change the tyre size for you...225/45's are the max on a 7" rim, even thats pushing it, but they are cheaper normally than the 205/50. The 205/50 will feel more comfortable. Shame the octy rims are not 8" as then we could share the audi default size of 235/45's. IIRC the theory of tyres is that the contact area of the 205/50 and 225/45 is almost the same, just a different shape. __________________ ColinD 1.9 Scout Roomster - Standard www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views. Last edited by ColinD; 04-05-2005 at 10:43.

05-05-2005, 15:37	#19
150HP&counting Briskodian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sheffield UK Posts: 854 Members Car: Octavia 1.8 20V Turbo Laurin & Klement Thanks: 5 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	would 215/45 be ok? : 17" Tyre Upgrade 2154517AVONZZ3UP £ 51.06 £ 60.00 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 Upgrade Premium Performance to High Performance Avon ZZ3 215/45/ZR17 Tyres. __________________ What is: Octavia vRS... Black Magic yet again... with plenty planned What was (May she RIP): Blk Magic Octy (Not quite a VRS) L&K,Climate,Heated leather,Cruise,Xenons, MODS(so far): Custom Code Phase II JBS-Forge-007P DV, Forge/Samco TIP, 18" Ace 205's, ABD/JBS CAI (*Wooosh), Audi TT 312mm Brakes

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