Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable

Irf · 16-10-2007, 10:56

Hi guys,

I have a Porter Cable and a few polishes I use to get Black Magic paint looking alright again. Was just wandering what combination of pads and products people on here use, as I want to do my car again.

On my car I use a 4" cutting pad with Meguiars Scratch X to cut into the paint. Then I'll use a 6" medium pad and AG Ultra Deep Shine to get the shine back. I'll then finish off with Zymol HD Clense and Zymol Carbon.

On another car that needs doing I'm suggesting they use a 4" pad with AG Paint Renovator (never used this with a PC before so not sure how dull the paint wil be afterwards), followed by 6" meduim pad and AG Ultra Deep Shine, then protected by AG Extra Gloss Protection.

Has anyone used AG Paint Renovator with a PC before? I've used it by hand and found it worked well but it did dull the paint quite a bit and was hard work bringing the shine back. In contrast, I've used Meguiars Scratch X and it didn't dull the paint too noticeably and bringing the shine back wasn't a problem. I don't want to guo out buying more products, just want to use what I have and the other person has, but was just wandering what combinations people use.

faboka vrs · 16-10-2007, 11:42

Johnny50 · 16-10-2007, 14:06

Mine was recently done using a PC, with megs yellow pad and menz intensive on my black magic...

Results are here..

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/gener...ew-pics/91336/

Irf · 16-10-2007, 14:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny50

Mine was recently done using a PC, with megs yellow pad and menz intensive on my black magic...

Results are here..

http://www.briskoda.net/forums/gener...ew-pics/91336/

Some very impressive results there, but do you know what pads/polishes he used?

chowy · 18-10-2007, 17:51

I guess it depends how bad your paint is.

Last year I did the following with good results

Wash
Clay
PC with Yellow SFX pad Menzerna Intensive polish, slow cut method.
PC with White SFX pad using Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish
PC with Blue SFX pad using Blackfire wet diamond.

Unfortunately the BWD didn't last too long so I topped off with Chemical Guys XXX wax which can be a little tricky if applied too thick.

Then in Winter I used Collinite 476S on top and it lasted a good 6 months 'til April this year

Seeing the paintwork was in good nick with very little swirls (I'm very careful when washing drying) I used the PC with white pad Carlack which is the same as Klasse All in One (AIO) which is a paint cleaner / sealant and then topped off by hand using the Carlack Long Life Sealant, which is same as Klasse Sealant.

The results are excellent for a sealant and after a few more thin coats it was superb! The beading is not as good a a good canauba wax but the finish is the best I've seen from a Sealant to date.

I've now topped off with Collinite 476S for winter which should last until next year now.

These pictures is were taken after using Carlack twins

anewman · 18-10-2007, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowy

These pictures is were taken after using Carlack twins

Can you come do mine?

Looks even better than perfect! Amazing!

mattbeef · 18-10-2007, 18:29

Id be careful with AG paint renovator as its quite abrasive.
Id honestly get some Menzerna polishes and use those as they always leave a good finish and work well on hard VAG paint

Liverpool-Lad · 18-10-2007, 18:53

Meguiars 80 or 83 I use, 80 should be enough.

faboka vrs · 18-10-2007, 19:43

Heard the about the Might try and order some Menzerna stuff.

mattbeef · 18-10-2007, 22:39

Clean Your Car - car care products UK
have 250ml sample packs so that will be more than enough

16-10-2007, 10:56	#1
Irf Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 691 Members Car: Furby vRS Thanks: 148 Thanked 60 Times in 26 Posts	Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Hi guys, I have a Porter Cable and a few polishes I use to get Black Magic paint looking alright again. Was just wandering what combination of pads and products people on here use, as I want to do my car again. On my car I use a 4" cutting pad with Meguiars Scratch X to cut into the paint. Then I'll use a 6" medium pad and AG Ultra Deep Shine to get the shine back. I'll then finish off with Zymol HD Clense and Zymol Carbon. On another car that needs doing I'm suggesting they use a 4" pad with AG Paint Renovator (never used this with a PC before so not sure how dull the paint wil be afterwards), followed by 6" meduim pad and AG Ultra Deep Shine, then protected by AG Extra Gloss Protection. Has anyone used AG Paint Renovator with a PC before? I've used it by hand and found it worked well but it did dull the paint quite a bit and was hard work bringing the shine back. In contrast, I've used Meguiars Scratch X and it didn't dull the paint too noticeably and bringing the shine back wasn't a problem. I don't want to guo out buying more products, just want to use what I have and the other person has, but was just wandering what combinations people use. __________________ FURBY VRS: cruise, xenons, ESP, heated seats, Revo, Eibachs, Koni FSDs, PD160 pipe, Jabba rear arb, Allard EGR pipe, EGR totally removed, Powertec induction kit, Milltek full system, Garrett GT17, Forge FMIC, 17" Octy wheels, debadged, side strips removed, Seat Cupra splitter, 312mm brakes... ICE: Alpine 9835, Alpine changer, Alpine X-Type sub, Alpine MRDM1000 & MRFV340 amps, Alpine Remote Amp Controller, Boston Acoustics Pro60.... NEXT: re-remap & clutch

16-10-2007, 11:42	#2
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 6,043 Members Car: 2004 Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Thanks: 12 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable __________________ John 2004 Skoda Fabia vRS - Xenons - Heated Seats - Cruise Control - Passenger Airbag Deactivation switch - Side Airbags

16-10-2007, 14:06	#3
Johnny50 Here's Johnny ! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 5,457 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 262 Thanked 174 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Mine was recently done using a PC, with megs yellow pad and menz intensive on my black magic... Results are here.. http://www.briskoda.net/forums/gener...ew-pics/91336/

18-10-2007, 17:51	#5
chowy Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: north east uk Posts: 762 Members Car: Fabia vRS Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable I guess it depends how bad your paint is. Last year I did the following with good results Wash Clay PC with Yellow SFX pad Menzerna Intensive polish, slow cut method. PC with White SFX pad using Blackfire Gloss Enhancing Polish PC with Blue SFX pad using Blackfire wet diamond. Unfortunately the BWD didn't last too long so I topped off with Chemical Guys XXX wax which can be a little tricky if applied too thick. Then in Winter I used Collinite 476S on top and it lasted a good 6 months 'til April this year Seeing the paintwork was in good nick with very little swirls (I'm very careful when washing drying) I used the PC with white pad Carlack which is the same as Klasse All in One (AIO) which is a paint cleaner / sealant and then topped off by hand using the Carlack Long Life Sealant, which is same as Klasse Sealant. The results are excellent for a sealant and after a few more thin coats it was superb! The beading is not as good a a good canauba wax but the finish is the best I've seen from a Sealant to date. I've now topped off with Collinite 476S for winter which should last until next year now. These pictures is were taken after using Carlack twins __________________ Present: BMW 130i M Sport 2007 \| Titanium Silver (No need to use indicators no more ) Sadly gone: Skoda Fabia vRS 2005 \| Black Magic (for pleasure) Present: Skoda Octavia Ambiente 1.9 Tdi 2005 \| Diamond Silver (for work)

18-10-2007, 18:29	#7
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,365 Members Car: Red Octy vRS Thanks: 36 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Id be careful with AG paint renovator as its quite abrasive. Id honestly get some Menzerna polishes and use those as they always leave a good finish and work well on hard VAG paint __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

18-10-2007, 18:53	#8
Liverpool-Lad Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,642 Members Car: Octavia vRS Thanks: 12 Thanked 47 Times in 47 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Meguiars 80 or 83 I use, 80 should be enough. __________________ 2001 Rally Red Octavia vRS...remap complete Whiteline rear ARB, Superpro dogbone bush - 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 Aysmmetrics and lots of V-Power! Smiles all 'round

18-10-2007, 19:43	#9
faboka vrs Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Merseyside Posts: 6,043 Members Car: 2004 Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Thanks: 12 Thanked 46 Times in 46 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Heard the about the Might try and order some Menzerna stuff. __________________ John 2004 Skoda Fabia vRS - Xenons - Heated Seats - Cruise Control - Passenger Airbag Deactivation switch - Side Airbags

18-10-2007, 22:39	#10
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,365 Members Car: Red Octy vRS Thanks: 36 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Black Magic Paint & Porter Cable Clean Your Car - car care products UK have 250ml sample packs so that will be more than enough __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

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