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Old 03-04-2005, 18:45   #1
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Hi Guys,

First of all I'm new to the site and new to the world of skoda! I have bought myself a black vRS with privacy glass and am loving it hehe!

Anyway, to the point, ive been looking for an aftermarket grill with black mesh to fit to replace the standard one.

Can anyone tell me some sites that sell any? Sorry if this is a repeat post but had a scan through other topics and couldnt seem to see anything.

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I believe Milotec and ms-design both do them mate, http://miltodec.de, http://www.ms-design.com I think
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Why thankyou mrs morley, your help is much appreciated
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privacy glass! What do you have to hide? I hope its not a back to front Burberry hat.
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I have bought myself a black vRS with privacy glass
Ahh... in the good old days we used to just say "Tinted Windows" or "Tints"...

Since Privacy Glass is not a standard Skoda factory fit or delaer fit option, it's worthwhile getting the light transmittance levels tested to see if they're legal - saves a problem later if you're stopped and tested...

Also if they're not legal and you have an accident, you might be declared negligent.

IMHO in neither case would you have a claim against the person/firm who sold you the car.

addendum - check my subsequent posting below
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Ahh... in the good old days we used to just say "Tinted Windows" or "Tints"...

Since Privacy Glass is not a standard Skoda factory fit or delaer fit option, it's worthwhile getting the light transmittance levels tested to see if they're legal - saves a problem later if you're stopped and tested...

Also if they're not legal and you have an accident, you might be declared negligent.

IMHO in neither case would you have a claim against the person/firm who sold you the car.
Good information, but out of interest why did you post it?
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Ive got 50%....20% over the legal amount....plus it's reflective...

Usually remove it before registration, and then redo it..
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Good information, but out of interest why did you post it?
I think it was very sensible to post it - as a reminder to the poster and anyone else reading it that heavily tinted glass is not only illegal but will leave you without insurance, even if it wasn't responsible for an accident.

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I think it was very sensible to post it - as a reminder to the poster and anyone else reading it that heavily tinted glass is not only illegal but will leave you without insurance, even if it wasn't responsible for an accident.

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Agreed, but it wasnt the topic of conversation was it?
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My insurers know of my levels of tint and have insured me without question.

Welcome to the forum anyway Jobo...

Not everyone on here is so up-tight.
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Does anyone know how much it is these days to get theirfabia tinted front and back, roughly?

Anyone know any good places who do it?

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Does anyone know how much it is these days to get theirfabia tinted front and back, roughly?

Anyone know any good places who do it?

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Open up another thread in the motorway for the best responces
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Well thanks for your help guys even though it did stray oiff the main topic a bit!!

And yes privacy glass IS a skoda dealer fit option when you buy a car from them. I toyed with the idea when i first got the car, they were going to charge me £295, but i decided not to go for it as i thought id be able to get it done cheaper. Cost for me £245 for all windows apart from the windscreen obviously!!

Oh and by the way, i decided to order the grill from MS Designs.

Has anyone got one fitted? How easy are they to fit after painting?

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Well thanks for your help guys even though it did stray oiff the main topic a bit!!

And yes privacy glass IS a skoda dealer fit option when you buy a car from them. I toyed with the idea when i first got the car, they were going to charge me £295, but i decided not to go for it as i thought id be able to get it done cheaper. Cost for me £245 for all windows apart from the windscreen obviously!!

Oh and by the way, i decided to order the grill from MS Designs.

Has anyone got one fitted? How easy are they to fit after painting?

Cheers!
It isn't an official Skoda dealer fit option - which is what I was meaning - your dealer may have offered it but not as an official Skoda accessory.

I suggest you check out http://www.sctints.co.uk/regulations.htm very carefully - if you have it fitted to the front side windows - I have emboldened the relevant sections:

Window Tinting - Amendments to legislation


During the early part of 2004, Section 32 of the Road Vehicles (Construction & Use) Regulations will be amended to include “Window Tint Films” where such materials attached to the glass are capable of reducing the visible light transmission of forward windows to below prescribed levels (70% VLT for front side windows). These changes will be back-dated to become applicable from 1st January 2004.


This will effectively ban the practice in future of applying virtually any tinted films to windows forward of the B-Post on any vehicle that is to be driven on UK roads.

The reasons for these changes is the recent proliferation of vehicles that are excessively tinted. Some vehicles may be so heavily tinted that they present a real danger when used on public roads. The action being taken by the Government follows a fatality that occurred recently where a heavily tinted car was involved in a collision with a motorcycle and the window tints were held to blame due to the vision of the driver being impaired.

There is, however, a recognized difference between “light window tints” which may be considered safe for road use and “excessively dark window tints” which are not.

There has also been a great deal of debate in recent years about the legitimacy of window tints that do not obscure the vision of the driver. A clear case has been argued that road-safe window tints do not actually conflict with existing regulations. The Department of Transport have argued however, that Section 32 was always intended to cover materials attached to the glass, despite the fact that no mention of this is made in the Regulation itself. The only solution remaining would be to amend the Legislation.

Consequently and in order to clarify the solution the Government have finally decided to up-date the Regulations to specifically include Tinted Films since, in the view of the Police and the Department of Transport, this is the only way in which the problems of excessive tints can be remedied.

Unfortunately however, even tint films that maybe considered to be safe for road use will now be viewed as in conflict with the Regulations, enabling the Police and Vehicle Inspectorate to take action against vehicle owners.

This has significant implications for the owners of vehicles that have window tints and also those that are responsible for installing or selling window tints.


Implications for the Installer and Motor Retailer.


From when the amendments to Section 32 come into force, any Motor Retailer that sells a vehicle that has window tint films applied which reduce visible light transmission levels to below prescribed levels forward of the B-Post is committing an offence and runs the risk of prosecution under Section 75 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act with reference to Section 41 (which defers to Construction and Use Regulations).

In a similar way, anyone responsible for the fitment of window tints which reduce visible light transmission level to below prescribed levels on windows forward of the B-Post is committing an offence and can also be prosecuted under Section 76 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act.


Implications for the vehicle owner.


After much discussion, a sympathetic Enforcement Policy has been agreed between the Department of Transport and The Glass and Glazing Federation to ensure that all vehicle owners that have had tints applied in the past may be dealt with fairly. This applies in particular where the infringement is with respect to tints that do not pose a significant threat to Road Safety, despite being in contravention with the amended Regulations.

In any event, after the date of the amendment to Section 32, the owner of the vehicle that has window tints applied forward of the B-Post is liable to be challenged by either a Police Officer or by an Inspector from the Department of Transport Vehicle Inspectorate, where their vehicle is noticed being driven on Public Roads.

Where such a vehicle is stopped and the window tints applied are such that the visible light transmission level, when measured using an appropriate device, falls to below prescribed levels, the following enforcement guidelines have been agreed with and recommended by the Government.


Above 30% Visible Light Transmission (Less Severe Window Tints)


The owner or driver of such a vehicle will be required to have the tinted film removed from the windows under the direction of either a Rectification Notice or a Delayed Prohibition Notice, A period of grace will apply for a limited number of days (normally ten) during which time the vehicle may be driven whilst the rectification work is to be completed. In either case, the vehicle will need to be inspected by either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer to confirm that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. Prosecution is unlikely in such circumstances provided the vehicle owner complies fully.

Below 30% Visible Light Transmission (Excessively dark Window Tints)

The owner or driver of such a vehicle may be issued with an Immediate Prohibition Notice and immediately
prevented from driving the vehicle on public roads until the tints have been removed and either a Police Officer or Vehicle Inspectorate Officer confirms that the glass has been restored to a compliant condition. It is also possible, depending on the severity of the offence, that the owner may be prosecuted for driving a vehicle in a non-roadworthy or even a dangerous condition with the potential for Penalty Points and a Fine.


Driving such a vehicle on public roads before the tints have been removed and before a Prohibition Notice has been lifted will be a serious offence and the owner or driver is likely to be prosecuted.

Action that needs to be taken by the Window Tint Installer and Motor Retailer

Restrictions - From the beginning of 2004, all customers of a Window Tint Installer or a Motor Retailer that enquire about window tinting should be informed about the new Regulations. It will be unlawful to sell them a vehicle that has tints applied toward of the B-Post and may render the Tinter or Retailer liable to prosecution. The vehicle may also be deemed to be in a Non-Roadworthy condition leaving the owner liable to prosecution as well.

The owner of a vehicle that is in a non-roadworthy condition may find that they void their Insurance Cover if they continue to drive it on public roads. In the event of an accident, the Insurance Company may refuse to pay part or all of their claim.

Rectification - All Window Tint Installers and Motor Retailers that have supplied window tints toward of the B-Post are being asked by the Government and the Glass and Glazing Federation to contact all of their previous customers wherever possible, to inform them of the changes to Legislation and to offer them a chance to have their vehicle returned to have the front tints removed.

This is most important since this will give every customer a chance to become informed about the amendments to the Regulations whilst being able to change their vehicle into a compliant condition before they may be challenged in the future by a Policeman or an officer from the Vehicle Inspectorate.

... and in case anyone mentions why have I posted this here rather than in another topic, it's here to warn this new owner about the problems he may be letting himself in for.
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Hi JOBO

I am looking for a grille to fix my car.
I have sent a private message.
Are you looking to sell.
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Oh and by the way, i decided to order the grill from MS Designs.

Has anyone got one fitted? How easy are they to fit after painting?

Cheers!
Easy to fit, takes about 15-20 minutes. One bit of advice, run the screws through the metal clips before attaching them to the grill, otherwise the clips distort and you will get very angry, or even suicidal if one happens to ping itself into the depths of the engine bay. If I remember correctly, there are 8 screws to remove from the grill, a T25 screwdriver is the only tool required. You may also be puzzled about how to get the mesh into the grill surround, well it just slides in from the back, and from one side, really easy when you've done it once. Personally I like the look of ther MSD grill, but loads of people on here dislike it,
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Thanks aixlad, the help is really appreciated.

Think it was your car that i saw the grill for a start in the gallery! I think it looks real nice on the black vRS, but like you said, we cant all have the same taste.

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Just for reference, the above link was wrong for milotec

www.milotec.de It is. And for the record, I prefer the MS design one given the choice, but for now I'm liking my standard grill.
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Thanks guys for all your help

Hopefully i can be of some assistance in in the future once my knowledge has been expanded!!

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How much is it after grille and painting for those who've already got one?

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How much is it after grille and painting for those who've already got one?

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depends on if you spray it yourself or get a garage to do it.
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I wouldnt have the time to do a DIY jobby.

I would take it into a spray shop
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