Briskoda Shoutbox

apinner · 11-04-2008, 15:47

What do you think?

It could lead to less random and silly off topic posts and threads. If you have it running along side the forum, its like having a chat room but not! Keeping the banter away from the forum.

YShout 5: A PHP + AJAX Shoutbox <-- looks good!

Just an idea

I don't mind working on it, aswell as the wiki and skin

It could even be a freedom perk?

Shifty · 11-04-2008, 15:48

I agree

auroan · 11-04-2008, 15:50

Maybe a freedom benefit ?

postmanpat · 11-04-2008, 16:02

so like MSN but without haveing to be invited into the conversation, what a free for all

apinner · 11-04-2008, 16:04

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Originally Posted by postmanpat

so like MSN but without haveing to be invited into the conversation, what a free for all

That's exactly it!

auroan · 11-04-2008, 16:09

So just like the off-topic forum threads

tdirob · 11-04-2008, 16:10

seems like a really good idea

**mannyo** · 11-04-2008, 16:12

We used to have one, but at the time the refreshing of the box put quiet a load on the server as it broadcast to all the connected users.

apinner · 11-04-2008, 16:14

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Originally Posted by mannyo

We used to have one, but at the time the refreshing of the box put quiet a load on the server as it broadcast to all the connected users.

Thats the joy of ajax.. it does not have to refresh!

swedishskoda · 11-04-2008, 16:21

hmmm... could there be a risk that people are more careless with their comments if they have the feeling that they are not "really" posting? And so would cause more discord?

auroan · 11-04-2008, 16:23

I've also seen them on other sites get taken over my spam bots

apinner · 11-04-2008, 16:32

This is not aimed at you swedish, just everything in general is starting to really wind me up!

How have we got to the point that i cant even make a positive suggestion without this whole stupid moderation argument carrying on? We are all adults ffs what has got into people!?!?!?

**robmawer** · 11-04-2008, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

How have we got to the point that i cant even make a positive suggestion without this whole stupid moderation argument carrying on? We are all adults ffs what has got into people!?!?!?

It's a fair point though - someone calls someone a "c*ck" on the shoutbox, then it will be expected for that to be moderated. What sort of log does the shoutbox keep of posted comments (ie. is it designed around a non-purging database - I haven't read the link so humour me if it's all on there

) should it ever need to be referred to in the event of a dispute?
Is there any kind of input validation available that would prevent infiltration by bots?
Any sort of details about server requirements or typical resource usage?

Rob.

apinner · 11-04-2008, 17:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by robmawer

It's a fair point though - someone calls someone a "c*ck" on the shoutbox, then it will be expected for that to be moderated. What sort of log does the shoutbox keep of posted comments (ie. is it designed around a non-purging database - I haven't read the link so humour me if it's all on there

) should it ever need to be referred to in the event of a dispute?
Is there any kind of input validation available that would prevent infiltration by bots?
Any sort of details about server requirements or typical resource usage?

Rob.

I think the majority of that information is on the website, it was only an idea and the one i posted looked quite good.

This is from the site..

Full-featured History Viewer. While YShout 4 had a history viewer, it was lacking in a few important respects. People requested an awesome history viewer, and YShout 5 delivers. The revamped history viewer contains all of the requested features, and more!

Along with the new features, YShout brings a compendious collection of older niceties. The list below is by no means exhaustive, it just contains some of the highlights.

» Message deletion. Deleting a message is only a click away.

» User banning. Do away with pesky spammers.

» BBCode and smileys. Add some spice to your conversation!

» Word censor. Keep the shoutbox clean.

» Utmost customization. Personalize YShout to fit your site.

I would have installed a demo to play with, but its donationware and there is no point in me making a donation unless its worth considering.

swedishskoda · 11-04-2008, 17:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

This is not aimed at you swedish, just everything in general is starting to really wind me up!

How have we got to the point that i cant even make a positive suggestion without this whole stupid moderation argument carrying on? We are all adults ffs what has got into people!?!?!?

Sorry, Alex, didn't mean to turn down your suggestion and I surely didn't mean to link this to the big mod issue (which is big enough as it is already if you ask me

)

I just thought that maybe the recent development in some of the threads (remember that in most threads there have been business as usual these last days) is a reminder that we can all be guilty of hitting the "submit" button before the often-needed five seconds of afterthought. And likewise of reading other people's posts a little bit too quickly before reacting. So the worrying thought popped up: maybe a shoutbox would promote this behaviour?

It was not meant as a dismissal, more as a cautious remark and something of a question to those that have experience of the gadget. My worries may well be unfounded.

**robmawer** · 11-04-2008, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

I think the majority of that information is on the website, it was only an idea and the one i posted looked quite good.

Yeah, I know it's just an idea and it if it could help divert "chat" away from the forum I for one would view it as a good thing...

Not especially techy so a lot of that website doesn't mean much to me...it doesn't seem to give any info about system requirements or what it actually needs? Would assume it uses some kind of database to record the messages so at some stage or other it's going to be putting additional load on the database? Or have I missed something?

Rob.

apinner · 11-04-2008, 17:17

I guess the difference between a shoutbox and forum would be that with the forum you hit the submit button and then log off leaving whatever you said out there for people to dwell on, with a shoutbox you are there to justify your comments and douse any bad feelings before they errupt while your not online.

I dont think it uses a database, going by the fact there is no mention of mysql or any other db software and the installation procedure does not include creating a database, it probably stores them in some form of txt file.

EDIT:

Found this on another site..

Quote:

YShout uses just text file to keep track of chats.

So maybe i'm right?

swedishskoda · 11-04-2008, 17:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

I guess the difference between a shoutbox and forum would be that with the forum you hit the submit button and then log off leaving whatever you said out there for people to dwell on, with a shoutbox you are there to justify your comments and douse any bad feelings before they errupt while your not online.

Trying to get a grip of this... just like rob I'm not a web techie so the webpage didn't clarify everything to me.

Does this mean that when I go offline all my comments just disappear? No archive? And likewise, when coming back I have no chance to read all stupid OT remarks made during my absence?

If so I can see the point - but I must admit I take a lot of pleasure from the friendly OT posting here (also when reading it at a later time) and I would regret if it disappeared altogether

Please forgive me Alex, I just cannot give up those "but have you thought of..." remarks

ruku · 11-04-2008, 17:32

I think I'm liking this idea

Tom_vRS · 11-04-2008, 17:40

Perhaps something to trial maybe?

11-04-2008, 15:47	#1
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,744 Thanks: 57 Thanked 86 Times in 43 Posts	Briskoda Shoutbox What do you think? It could lead to less random and silly off topic posts and threads. If you have it running along side the forum, its like having a chat room but not! Keeping the banter away from the forum. YShout 5: A PHP + AJAX Shoutbox <-- looks good! Just an idea I don't mind working on it, aswell as the wiki and skin It could even be a freedom perk? __________________ . Alex . Last edited by apinner; 11-04-2008 at 15:53.

11-04-2008, 15:48	#2
Shifty Cereal Killer Join Date: May 2005 Location: The home of witty banter™ Posts: 6,226 Thanks: 71 Thanked 145 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox I agree __________________ Official 0 to 60 mph - 5.85 seconds. Standing 1/4 mile - 14.3 seconds. 251.5 BHP and 400 lbs/ft of torque. Oh - and 55 mpg on a run Everyone knows someone called Dave. And here I am

11-04-2008, 15:50	#3
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 157 Thanked 95 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox Maybe a freedom benefit ? __________________ '00 AUDI A4 2.8 Quattro - with a few mods Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

11-04-2008, 16:09	#6
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 157 Thanked 95 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox So just like the off-topic forum threads __________________ '00 AUDI A4 2.8 Quattro - with a few mods Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

11-04-2008, 16:10	#7
tdirob Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wrexham Posts: 1,217 Thanks: 25 Thanked 35 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox seems like a really good idea __________________ Golf GT TDI - Standard (at the minute)

11-04-2008, 16:12	#8
mannyo BRISKODA Staff Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Stevenage Herts. Posts: 11,091 Thanks: 34 Thanked 303 Times in 283 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox We used to have one, but at the time the refreshing of the box put quiet a load on the server as it broadcast to all the connected users. __________________ Manny 2005 Octavia 2.0TDi Elegance combi my skoda website http://www.octaviars.co.uk Join the briskoda.net folding team click Here for more info

11-04-2008, 16:21	#10
swedishskoda Briskadoodian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,739 Thanks: 44 Thanked 150 Times in 136 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox hmmm... could there be a risk that people are more careless with their comments if they have the feeling that they are not "really" posting? And so would cause more discord? __________________ It's feral ! It's fervid! It's a Felicia!

11-04-2008, 16:23	#11
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,707 Thanks: 157 Thanked 95 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox I've also seen them on other sites get taken over my spam bots __________________ '00 AUDI A4 2.8 Quattro - with a few mods Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan) Last edited by auroan; 11-04-2008 at 16:33.

11-04-2008, 16:32	#12
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,744 Thanks: 57 Thanked 86 Times in 43 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox This is not aimed at you swedish, just everything in general is starting to really wind me up! How have we got to the point that i cant even make a positive suggestion without this whole stupid moderation argument carrying on? We are all adults ffs what has got into people!?!?!? __________________ . Alex .

11-04-2008, 17:32	#19
ruku Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 586 Thanks: 36 Thanked 13 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox I think I'm liking this idea __________________ Join the social group : http://briskoda.net/groups/modded+fabia+nutcases/ It make's your car faster! total group bhp to date is 2944.9bhp!!!!!!!

11-04-2008, 17:40	#20
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 11,052 Thanks: 622 Thanked 375 Times in 256 Posts	Re: Briskoda Shoutbox Perhaps something to trial maybe? __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. Don't miss the new DR COLORCHIPS GROUP BUY!

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