Briskoda Wiki

apinner · 19-03-2008, 16:58

Is there already one, or one in the pipeline?

The forum is a great and powerful communication tool but i think that the wealth of knowlege and information would be better stored in a wiki. It may just be me but i find searching the forum just brings up tons and tons of repeat posts and useless information that takes forever to sift through.

If people could contribute their knowledge to a searchable and well managed wiki it would cut down on the huge number of people asking the same questions over and over and make finding technical based answers easier.

Just my opinion though..

MediaWiki - MediaWiki

auroan · 19-03-2008, 17:01

I'd second this. I'd even be happy to host/manage one if the reason behind not having one was the time involved for colinD and the mods.

The forum is great, but sometimes it can't half take a while to find the information your after.

apinner · 19-03-2008, 17:03

I will second your offer auroan and i am also happy to help out in administration and setup of the system.

robb06210 · 19-03-2008, 19:44

I will third your offer

I've suggested this myself in the past... it was pointed out to me that people wouldn't use it and the site is far better.

I'm of the same opinion as you guys... if the solutions/info is stored in one place so you can type in a keyword - say "clutch" and it brings up all available questions/queries then that is far easier than trawling through the threads looking for keywords.

My two pence worth

**VRStu** · 19-03-2008, 19:55

There is/was something being sorted but the time setting it up has so far been the issue.

apinner · 19-03-2008, 20:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

There is/was something being sorted but the time setting it up has so far been the issue.

auroan is a unix/linux whizz, i am fairly handy with code and web technologies and thats just 2 people. There are other folks who's skills are probably far better than ours, maybe the site needs to make use of them and take some of the load and time constraints off colin and chums.

**VRStu** · 19-03-2008, 20:35

Content was one of the hardest things to deal with.

apinner · 19-03-2008, 21:34

Take a look around any of the car related forums and you will see the same questions pop up over and over and over again and the same people answering those questions. The whole purpose of a wiki is that people contribute. I am sure most people would rather answer a questions once than over and over.

All of the guides that have been posted, all the error codes and vag com help, the ICE and security info, all of the detailing info, i would say the one thing your not short on is content!

calderscot · 19-03-2008, 21:40

Sound like a great idea, a quick way of getting the information
you want directly.

For some technical questions it can be difficult to track down the relevant information required.

If everyone could contribute it would be a great resource for Skoda information

**VRStu** · 19-03-2008, 21:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by apinner

Take a look around any of the car related forums and you will see the same questions pop up over and over and over again and the same people answering those questions. The whole purpose of a wiki is that people contribute. I am sure most people would rather answer a questions once than over and over.

All of the guides that have been posted, all the error codes and vag com help, the ICE and security info, all of the detailing info, i would say the one thing your not short on is content!

I agree but the information does have to be collated and varified. I think once started it would grow over time.

mattbeef · 19-03-2008, 22:10

Start one up and see how it goes.

I cant see if being an issue to start gathering and verifying the info

robb06210 · 19-03-2008, 22:58

You can flesh it out with member profiles etc... I'd love to know exactly what the likes of Makefish, Delac, Shifty and Jason are running on their motors

It can only serve to supplement the site rather than detract from it... if you give the community a chance I'm sure we'll deliver - and even it it doesn't take off, Brisky's not going to be affected by it.

Please please please give us a chance

**VRStu** · 20-03-2008, 07:16

Might be worth sending a PM to ColinD and see how far he has already got. You might find he is away this week though.

auroan · 20-03-2008, 08:36

Thanks Stu for stepping in and responding. The thing with the content for wiki, is very much a case like wikipedia, verifying content would be e by the massses, and getting the content up there would be the same.

I reckon all the mods would need to do is set up a basic structure fo people to follow.

apinner · 20-03-2008, 09:13

I can see no reason why it couldn't grow into a VAG wide wiki, if there is not already such a thing.

I reckon once the ball is rolling the vast majority of info could be almost copy pasted from forum posts with a bit of tweeking and editing. Obviously it would require moderation and topics on certain subjects would need approval by the forum mods.

***ColinD*** · 20-03-2008, 13:05

I did install an integrated wiki, was based of a fork on media wiki.

I can still bring this out, but it's an unsupported modification and the original author has effectively given up on it.

It tied forum profiles into the wiki profiles so we could lock down editing and subsquent spamming of said wiki. There is a minor compat issue with the new version from last test so it's still an option, just not up on the list.

apinner · 20-03-2008, 13:12

why does it have to be integrated into the forum software? Why not just use the full blown version of media wiki and if people want to contribute they have to register with that aswell. From a readers perspective it will make no difference as they dont have to register to read the wiki, but editors and contributors of which i imagine will only be a few will have to sign up with an account.

If not there is this, which i assume is what you have installed.. MediaWiki and vBulletin - Wiki

***ColinD*** · 20-03-2008, 13:34

Yes and it's that which I talk about above...

Mailed but no response, I'm not really wanting to install unsupported/developed software with so many vulnerabilities out there.

I'm not adverse to installing a standalone wiki at all. Except for one thing, not everyone is going to understand dual registration. I'm moving towards a unified login for all the separate sections of the site, thus you, the next user and I don't have multiple sign on's for the one site. If it comes to it and I can't get a response, then there is another link or a standalone version. But then comes maintenance and population. In the brief time it was up before only 2 pages were created (in about a month). I'll happily do anything to better the site if it's going to be a return on investment of time. Maybe it is now, maybe you could be the main editor of it and drive it's usage, in which case we could do it without hesitation.

apinner · 20-03-2008, 13:41

hmmm i see your point about user registration, i also thought about searching the wiki. Is it possible to search the wiki from the forum search feature? I know media wiki has hundreds of plugins, i dont know if there is anything that would enable you to add some integration if not full integration.

I do not mind being an editor at all, i think it would need a small team of people to push it forward and to promote users to write articles its defo not a one man job!

EDIT:

any good?

Extension:VBulletin/Users Integration - MediaWiki

Extension:VBulletin Users Integration - MediaWiki

**VRStu** · 20-03-2008, 14:09

Alex

Very good of you to step up and offer your services.

Don't be offended if Colin doesn't reply straight away but he is moving around again at the moment.

19-03-2008, 16:58	#1
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Briskoda Wiki Is there already one, or one in the pipeline? The forum is a great and powerful communication tool but i think that the wealth of knowlege and information would be better stored in a wiki. It may just be me but i find searching the forum just brings up tons and tons of repeat posts and useless information that takes forever to sift through. If people could contribute their knowledge to a searchable and well managed wiki it would cut down on the huge number of people asking the same questions over and over and make finding technical based answers easier. Just my opinion though.. MediaWiki - MediaWiki __________________ . Alex . Last edited by apinner; 19-03-2008 at 17:01. Reason: added media wiki link

19-03-2008, 17:01	#2
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,678 Thanks: 154 Thanked 90 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki I'd second this. I'd even be happy to host/manage one if the reason behind not having one was the time involved for colinD and the mods. The forum is great, but sometimes it can't half take a while to find the information your after. __________________ '00 AUDI A4 2.8 Quattro - with a few mods Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

19-03-2008, 17:03	#3
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki I will second your offer auroan and i am also happy to help out in administration and setup of the system. __________________ . Alex .

19-03-2008, 19:44	#4
robb06210 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,119 Thanks: 54 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki I will third your offer I've suggested this myself in the past... it was pointed out to me that people wouldn't use it and the site is far better. I'm of the same opinion as you guys... if the solutions/info is stored in one place so you can type in a keyword - say "clutch" and it brings up all available questions/queries then that is far easier than trawling through the threads looking for keywords. My two pence worth __________________ I was just a figment of your imagination! After nearly two years and a hell of a lot of fun, I'm off - all the best to everybody; this is Robbo signing off!

19-03-2008, 19:55	#5
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,400 Thanks: 113 Thanked 918 Times in 825 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki There is/was something being sorted but the time setting it up has so far been the issue. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

19-03-2008, 20:35	#7
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,400 Thanks: 113 Thanked 918 Times in 825 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Content was one of the hardest things to deal with. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

19-03-2008, 21:34	#8
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Take a look around any of the car related forums and you will see the same questions pop up over and over and over again and the same people answering those questions. The whole purpose of a wiki is that people contribute. I am sure most people would rather answer a questions once than over and over. All of the guides that have been posted, all the error codes and vag com help, the ICE and security info, all of the detailing info, i would say the one thing your not short on is content! __________________ . Alex .

19-03-2008, 21:40	#9
calderscot Briskodian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 33 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Briskoda Wiki Sound like a great idea, a quick way of getting the information you want directly. For some technical questions it can be difficult to track down the relevant information required. If everyone could contribute it would be a great resource for Skoda information

19-03-2008, 22:10	#11
mattbeef Briskodian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sheffield Posts: 3,349 Thanks: 38 Thanked 116 Times in 115 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Start one up and see how it goes. I cant see if being an issue to start gathering and verifying the info __________________ I few bits here and there but im happy to Performance Torque Go on click me you know you want to

19-03-2008, 22:58	#12
robb06210 Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,119 Thanks: 54 Thanked 19 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki You can flesh it out with member profiles etc... I'd love to know exactly what the likes of Makefish, Delac, Shifty and Jason are running on their motors It can only serve to supplement the site rather than detract from it... if you give the community a chance I'm sure we'll deliver - and even it it doesn't take off, Brisky's not going to be affected by it. Please please please give us a chance __________________ I was just a figment of your imagination! After nearly two years and a hell of a lot of fun, I'm off - all the best to everybody; this is Robbo signing off! Last edited by robb06210; 20-03-2008 at 08:27.

20-03-2008, 07:16	#13
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,400 Thanks: 113 Thanked 918 Times in 825 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Might be worth sending a PM to ColinD and see how far he has already got. You might find he is away this week though. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

20-03-2008, 08:36	#14
auroan Why me ? Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 2,678 Thanks: 154 Thanked 90 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Thanks Stu for stepping in and responding. The thing with the content for wiki, is very much a case like wikipedia, verifying content would be e by the massses, and getting the content up there would be the same. I reckon all the mods would need to do is set up a basic structure fo people to follow. __________________ '00 AUDI A4 2.8 Quattro - with a few mods Audi A4 2.6 Avant (Breaking - Check out http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/auroan)

20-03-2008, 09:13	#15
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki I can see no reason why it couldn't grow into a VAG wide wiki, if there is not already such a thing. I reckon once the ball is rolling the vast majority of info could be almost copy pasted from forum posts with a bit of tweeking and editing. Obviously it would require moderation and topics on certain subjects would need approval by the forum mods. __________________ . Alex .

20-03-2008, 13:05	#16
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,210 Thanks: 22 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki I did install an integrated wiki, was based of a fork on media wiki. I can still bring this out, but it's an unsupported modification and the original author has effectively given up on it. It tied forum profiles into the wiki profiles so we could lock down editing and subsquent spamming of said wiki. There is a minor compat issue with the new version from last test so it's still an option, just not up on the list. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

20-03-2008, 13:12	#17
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki why does it have to be integrated into the forum software? Why not just use the full blown version of media wiki and if people want to contribute they have to register with that aswell. From a readers perspective it will make no difference as they dont have to register to read the wiki, but editors and contributors of which i imagine will only be a few will have to sign up with an account. If not there is this, which i assume is what you have installed.. MediaWiki and vBulletin - Wiki __________________ . Alex .

20-03-2008, 13:34	#18
*ColinD* Site owner Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Hill & Mountains of North Wales Posts: 10,210 Thanks: 22 Thanked 138 Times in 70 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Yes and it's that which I talk about above... Mailed but no response, I'm not really wanting to install unsupported/developed software with so many vulnerabilities out there. I'm not adverse to installing a standalone wiki at all. Except for one thing, not everyone is going to understand dual registration. I'm moving towards a unified login for all the separate sections of the site, thus you, the next user and I don't have multiple sign on's for the one site. If it comes to it and I can't get a response, then there is another link or a standalone version. But then comes maintenance and population. In the brief time it was up before only 2 pages were created (in about a month). I'll happily do anything to better the site if it's going to be a return on investment of time. Maybe it is now, maybe you could be the main editor of it and drive it's usage, in which case we could do it without hesitation. __________________ ColinD - 97/100 Limited Edition Octavia vRS < For Sale www.BRISKODA.net :: Site Owner. E-Mail : webmaster at briskoda dot net Got a comment to make about the site? Please feel free to use the feedback form here, we welcome your views.

20-03-2008, 13:41	#19
apinner Numberwang Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grimsby Posts: 1,727 Thanks: 57 Thanked 83 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki hmmm i see your point about user registration, i also thought about searching the wiki. Is it possible to search the wiki from the forum search feature? I know media wiki has hundreds of plugins, i dont know if there is anything that would enable you to add some integration if not full integration. I do not mind being an editor at all, i think it would need a small team of people to push it forward and to promote users to write articles its defo not a one man job! EDIT: any good? Extension:VBulletin/Users Integration - MediaWiki Extension:VBulletin Users Integration - MediaWiki __________________ . Alex .

20-03-2008, 14:09	#20
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 20,400 Thanks: 113 Thanked 918 Times in 825 Posts	Re: Briskoda Wiki Alex Very good of you to step up and offer your services. Don't be offended if Colin doesn't reply straight away but he is moving around again at the moment. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

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