Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD?

Fred Bloggs · 04-06-2008, 20:03

Hmmm, I'm getting seriously tempted by the looks and the road tests I've seen of the new Superb 2.0 TDi CRD (170 bhp motor). My 55 plate Superb 2.5 TDi Elegance will be "officially" 3 years old in September 08 (pre-registered by the dealer, delivered mid December 05, bought by me Jan 06!).

What's the chance of a stonking good trade-in deal on my motor for a new CRD Elegance for an early firm order?

primey · 04-06-2008, 20:43

Not prayer if trade in. You probably be better selling private.

rotodiesel · 04-06-2008, 23:14

Not a snowball's chance. The old Superb is a lemon and the 2.5 V6 is a very undesirable engine. New tax bandings have sealed its fate.

I would never buy any car within the first two years of production, especially from VAG - come to think of it there are loads of design faults on the old Superb they never ever bothered to sort out (water ingress, anyone?).

Have a trawl around the Internet and see what problems people have had with the new Passat (rattles, handbrake, electronics etc.) before you hand VAG any money.

rotodiesel.

anonymouse · 05-06-2008, 00:44

You can always try - and I guess you will.
I'm sorry - but prepare to be insulted

That's the name of the car game - the model you have is always too thirsty / outdated / undesireable / out of fashion / had too many problems ....................... and whatever else disparaging that you can think of about a car

Funny how all this changes in a 'new' model

Taxi 219 · 05-06-2008, 18:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by rotodiesel

Not a snowball's chance. The old Superb is a lemon and the 2.5 V6 is a very undesirable engine. New tax bandings have sealed its fate.

I would never buy any car within the first two years of production, especially from VAG - come to think of it there are loads of design faults on the old Superb they never ever bothered to sort out (water ingress, anyone?).

Have a trawl around the Internet and see what problems people have had with the new Passat (rattles, handbrake, electronics etc.) before you hand VAG any money.

rotodiesel.

Totally agree

Fred Bloggs · 05-06-2008, 18:09

OK I'm prepared to be insulted. What's a 55 plate 2.5 TDi worth as a trade in with ~36k miles on the clock? Condition is very good but not quite like new/showroom condition (could be like new with an hours work).

Fred Bloggs · 05-06-2008, 18:14

OK Roto (and all), I don't like any frog stuff. I think the new Subaru Diesel is promising but needs 6 speeds not 5. BMW 3 series/Lexus to small/pricey. Merc, no thanks. Audi/VW, rather have a Skoda. Ford or Vauxhall, no thanks. Honda, not keen.

Er, that narrows it down a bit?

Dr Zoidberg · 05-06-2008, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs

Hmmm, I'm getting seriously tempted by the looks and the road tests I've seen of the new Superb 2.0 TDi CRD (170 bhp motor). My 55 plate Superb 2.5 TDi Elegance will be "officially" 3 years old in September 08 (pre-registered by the dealer, delivered mid December 05, bought by me Jan 06!).

What's the chance of a stonking good trade-in deal on my motor for a new CRD Elegance for an early firm order?

Almost zero

Old shape superbs have never done particularly well , especially the 6 cylinder ones.

I suspect the new ones will be in high demand so there's very little incentive for them to give you a good trade in.

Sorry

Dr Zoidberg · 05-06-2008, 18:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Bloggs

OK I'm prepared to be insulted. What's a 55 plate 2.5 TDi worth as a trade in with ~36k miles on the clock? Condition is very good but not quite like new/showroom condition (could be like new with an hours work).

You didn't say what trim level it was.

Skoda Superb Comfort
2.5TD Diesel 4-door Saloon
6 Speed Manual Front Wheel Drive
Year: 2006 55
Mileage: 36,000

Estimated value of your car

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£10350
Average condition:
£9240
Below average condition:
£8200

Bizarrely , Glass's values the elegance at slightly less , but I doubt you'll get offered thouse figures for either

Skoda Superb Elegance
2.5TD Diesel 4-door Saloon
6 Speed Manual Front Wheel Drive
Year: 2006 55
Mileage: 36,000

Estimated value of your car

Part-exchange Price:
Excellent condition:
£10200
Average condition:
£9100
Below average condition:
£8080

Tom_vRS · 05-06-2008, 18:24

I think you'd be looking at about £9k tops p/x I'm afraid. Not sure what you were hoping for

Fred Bloggs · 05-06-2008, 18:32

Thanks, I wasn't really hoping for much. About £10k. It's an Elegance, sorry. It'll be my 6th Skoda from the same dealer. That may help a bit?

**VRStu** · 05-06-2008, 18:48

Used values on them are suffering a bit I think, shame really as they are a lot of car for the money. I've noticed an increase in them being used as Taxi's now.

Taxi 219 · 05-06-2008, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by VRStu

Used values on them are suffering a bit I think, shame really as they are a lot of car for the money. I've noticed an increase in them being used as Taxi's now.

Yep agree there are more and more of them coming on the Taxi circuit now but have only seen 1 V6 so far.All the rest are 1.9.

Fred Bloggs · 05-06-2008, 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxi 219

Yep agree there are more and more of them coming on the Taxi circuit now but have only seen 1 V6 so far.All the rest are 1.9.

A pity that, it would make a brilliant taxi for someone too. I have a Fabia VRs and I reckon there's only about 5 to 7% difference in real world fuel consumption between the Furby and the Superb. I know the 2.5 gets a bit of a bad press, but this one has been a very, very nice motor actually. Might be a shame to get rid.

rotodiesel · 05-06-2008, 19:02

The taxi driver who's itching to get his hands on my 1.9 PD runs a 2.5 diesel Superb at the moment.

He knows it's a time bomb as far as the engine is concerned - most taxi drivers with any savvy know this - but his car has been largely trouble free other than driveshaft joint boots, balljoints and an appetite for rear brakes.

He reckons changing to a 1.9 will save him 30% of his fuel for town running and the tax next year will be very much lower due to the PD engine's higher efficiency.

Mine's not for sale yet though - still working for its living.

rotodiesel.

Fred Bloggs · 05-06-2008, 19:08

Made a mistake when I bought the 2.5 it seems. I had a 1.9 TDi Octy estate and I was very happy with it. should have swapped it for a 1.9 Superb, not the 2.5 it appears.

SJFISHER67 · 05-06-2008, 20:33

I am having a similar thought process to you, 2.0 TDi motor, but am tempted by the Passat also (Highline 2.0 TDi).

Still can't make my mind up tho.

Fred Bloggs · 06-06-2008, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by SJFISHER67

I am having a similar thought process to you, 2.0 TDi motor, but am tempted by the Passat also (Highline 2.0 TDi).

Still can't make my mind up tho.

I don't really want a VW. I haven't checked prices but I'm guessing I'd pay another £2 or 3K for eqivalent spec Passat v Superb? I'm wondering if I can get a "£10k to change" offer from the dealer my last 5 cars have been from. I'll post the results here in due course.

Burnsey · 10-06-2008, 15:49

Good luck. I really liked my superb, so comfy for cruising up and down to england. now in octavia estate (we've got a dog now) and not so comfy.
The tax bandings have knackered any chance of a trade-in, and they are likely to take a further hit in the run up to March 09.

Best bet, tax it for 6 months at lowish price then a further 12 months before new rates are effective. At least it'll save a hundred quid or so.

The dealer I traded my 04 plate v6 with 60k miles still had it on their forecourt last time I looked.

- They still have it. Now less than the trade-in price they gave me. Things are bad in the industry.... it's a lovely motor.

rotodiesel · 10-06-2008, 17:10

Tax it for a year then send the tax back after six months. Then re-tax for a year.

Buying six month's tax is a rip off and you don't get a refund of all of the unused tax if you send the disk back.

Nice to have a fair minded Govt. which supports people without enough cash to tax a car for a year.

rotodiesel.

04-06-2008, 20:03	#1
Fred Bloggs Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Hmmm, I'm getting seriously tempted by the looks and the road tests I've seen of the new Superb 2.0 TDi CRD (170 bhp motor). My 55 plate Superb 2.5 TDi Elegance will be "officially" 3 years old in September 08 (pre-registered by the dealer, delivered mid December 05, bought by me Jan 06!). What's the chance of a stonking good trade-in deal on my motor for a new CRD Elegance for an early firm order?

04-06-2008, 20:43	#2
primey Briskodian Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 846 Thanks: 3 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Not prayer if trade in. You probably be better selling private. __________________ Paul My Car - Nightfire Blue Superb - 2.5 V6 TDi - Dark Leather Interior - Xenons - Serious Pimp Tints - Sat Nav - Detchable Towbar - Green Cotton Panel Filter - MINTEX Xtreme Performance Brake Pads - Chrome Wing Mirrors - 18" New RS4 Rims - Neuspeed Lower Rear ARB - Pipewerx Custom Stainless Exhaust with 200cel Cat - Custom Code PHASE II Remap - Huge Smile - Can my bank account keep up? ...

04-06-2008, 23:14	#3
rotodiesel Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 580 Thanks: 3 Thanked 61 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Not a snowball's chance. The old Superb is a lemon and the 2.5 V6 is a very undesirable engine. New tax bandings have sealed its fate. I would never buy any car within the first two years of production, especially from VAG - come to think of it there are loads of design faults on the old Superb they never ever bothered to sort out (water ingress, anyone?). Have a trawl around the Internet and see what problems people have had with the new Passat (rattles, handbrake, electronics etc.) before you hand VAG any money. rotodiesel.

05-06-2008, 00:44	#4
anonymouse Nuts Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Greater Manchester Posts: 8,357 Thanks: 147 Thanked 249 Times in 183 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? You can always try - and I guess you will. I'm sorry - but prepare to be insulted That's the name of the car game - the model you have is always too thirsty / outdated / undesireable / out of fashion / had too many problems ....................... and whatever else disparaging that you can think of about a car Funny how all this changes in a 'new' model __________________ "Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting." - Heinlein

05-06-2008, 18:09	#6
Fred Bloggs Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? OK I'm prepared to be insulted. What's a 55 plate 2.5 TDi worth as a trade in with ~36k miles on the clock? Condition is very good but not quite like new/showroom condition (could be like new with an hours work).

05-06-2008, 18:14	#7
Fred Bloggs Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? OK Roto (and all), I don't like any frog stuff. I think the new Subaru Diesel is promising but needs 6 speeds not 5. BMW 3 series/Lexus to small/pricey. Merc, no thanks. Audi/VW, rather have a Skoda. Ford or Vauxhall, no thanks. Honda, not keen. Er, that narrows it down a bit?

05-06-2008, 18:24	#10
Tom_vRS Briskodaholic Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Fenland, Cambridgeshire Posts: 10,790 Thanks: 574 Thanked 362 Times in 244 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? I think you'd be looking at about £9k tops p/x I'm afraid. Not sure what you were hoping for __________________ 97/R BMW 328i in Boston Green. << Clickable for boring info. My Journal

05-06-2008, 18:32	#11
Fred Bloggs Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Thanks, I wasn't really hoping for much. About £10k. It's an Elegance, sorry. It'll be my 6th Skoda from the same dealer. That may help a bit?

05-06-2008, 18:48	#12
VRStu Briskoda Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hampshire Posts: 19,851 Thanks: 90 Thanked 861 Times in 776 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Used values on them are suffering a bit I think, shame really as they are a lot of car for the money. I've noticed an increase in them being used as Taxi's now. __________________ Stu - Freedom Pimp Stu's Websites - http://www.fabia-vrs.com & http://www.octavia-vrs.com Stu's Car - 2007 Octavia vRS, Race Blue, Xenons, Columbus Navigation, Rear Parking Sensors, Maxi Dot, Light Assist, Jumbo Box, 18" Alloys, Stu's Cruise Control & OEM Integrated Bluetooth Telephone. SWMBO's Car - 2008 Seat LEON TDi Stylance, Black Magic, Sports Pack, Rear Parking Sensors. Something for Weekend - 2002 Lotus Elise RaceTech, Gunmetal, Radio, Carpet Mats.

05-06-2008, 19:02	#15
rotodiesel Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 580 Thanks: 3 Thanked 61 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? The taxi driver who's itching to get his hands on my 1.9 PD runs a 2.5 diesel Superb at the moment. He knows it's a time bomb as far as the engine is concerned - most taxi drivers with any savvy know this - but his car has been largely trouble free other than driveshaft joint boots, balljoints and an appetite for rear brakes. He reckons changing to a 1.9 will save him 30% of his fuel for town running and the tax next year will be very much lower due to the PD engine's higher efficiency. Mine's not for sale yet though - still working for its living. rotodiesel.

05-06-2008, 19:08	#16
Fred Bloggs Briskodian Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 88 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Made a mistake when I bought the 2.5 it seems. I had a 1.9 TDi Octy estate and I was very happy with it. should have swapped it for a 1.9 Superb, not the 2.5 it appears.

05-06-2008, 20:33	#17
SJFISHER67 Briskodian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Winchester Posts: 616 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? I am having a similar thought process to you, 2.0 TDi motor, but am tempted by the Passat also (Highline 2.0 TDi). Still can't make my mind up tho. __________________ Skoda Superb 2.0 TDi 'vRS' (It's an Elegance really) 2008 Factory lowered and a boot spoiler!

10-06-2008, 15:49	#19
Burnsey Briskodian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GLASGOW Posts: 324 Thanks: 11 Thanked 13 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Good luck. I really liked my superb, so comfy for cruising up and down to england. now in octavia estate (we've got a dog now) and not so comfy. The tax bandings have knackered any chance of a trade-in, and they are likely to take a further hit in the run up to March 09. Best bet, tax it for 6 months at lowish price then a further 12 months before new rates are effective. At least it'll save a hundred quid or so. The dealer I traded my 04 plate v6 with 60k miles still had it on their forecourt last time I looked. - They still have it. Now less than the trade-in price they gave me. Things are bad in the industry.... it's a lovely motor. __________________ Burnsey 1.9 tdi Octy II elegance estate (gone but not forgotten... 2.5v6tdi Superb, MkI Octy 1.6) Last edited by Burnsey; 10-06-2008 at 15:52. Reason: Just checked the dealer in question

10-06-2008, 17:10	#20
rotodiesel Briskodian Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 580 Thanks: 3 Thanked 61 Times in 55 Posts	Re: Could I get a good part ex for a new type 2.0 TDi CRD? Tax it for a year then send the tax back after six months. Then re-tax for a year. Buying six month's tax is a rip off and you don't get a refund of all of the unused tax if you send the disk back. Nice to have a fair minded Govt. which supports people without enough cash to tax a car for a year. rotodiesel.

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